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Minnie would never date this guy!


First off: I liked this film! But Minnie must be insane to date Moskowitz let alone marry him. He's rude, aggressive, a bully, a total waster and CRAZY, and doesn't even care! John Cassavetes must have been drunk as a skunk during the periods he spent writing this.

I can only assume he created this film to drive Gena Rowlands crazy knowing that her and Seymour Cassel didn't get on too great in real life.

However, I did enjoy the film and it's excellent performances from the two leads. And Gena looked so beautiful that I fell in love with her.

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To qoute what another poster wrote:

"So you've never seen an amazing woman with a loser? Get real and open your eyes."

Good point!

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Not so crazy ! Yeah, the character is supposed to be offbeat and unusual. That is why Minnie has trouble accepting him as the love of her life. But, frankly, compared to Minnie's other love interests, he shines. John Cassavette's cameo is the kind of charming cad he played in Mikey and Nicky, but down deep violent and insensitive. The restaurant date turns out to be a total disaster, with the guy insulting her and shouting in front of everyone. The same day Minnie has these sad experiences, she bumps into Moskowitz. He has his flaws, but at least he's earnest, loving and tolerant. Jealousy does make him a bit passionate at times but it's never directed at Minnie. If romantic movies are a conspiracy and Minnie can never meet her Charles Boyer...well, at least she has Moskowitz who may not be perfect, like his own mother claims at the end, but who loves her and wants her to have the best.


" You ain't running this place, Bert, WILLIAMS is!" Sgt Harris

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lol Loving and tolerant people don't stalk women, punch doors or beat up people without provocation. Jealousy is a sign of domestic abuse. It's not an excuse to hit anyone. The scene where he cuts his mustache and threatens to cut his hair was just plain psycho and emotionally abusive. "Love me or I'll hurt you or myself" is not the kind of "love" anyone should be striving for.

Romantic love in the movies may not exist, but it doesn't mean you need to hook up with violent, abusive douchebags. There's a huge difference between "less than perfect" and disgusting loser.

I agree that Cassavetes was a drunk and was clearly drunk when he wrote this. Too many people confuse drunken ramblings with brilliance. There is nothing brilliant in this film.


The people you idolize wouldn't like you.

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You are right...this is more male fantasizing that no matter how they behave, they will always get a nice lady...lol...right...This hardly ever happens in real life despite the fact some men insist that it happens all the time. Like you, not sure what John Cassavetes was on whether he was drunk or going on some sort of ego trip...nevertheless, this is not one of his best works.

That was all rather thrilling. Anything more cinematographic could scarcely be imagined.

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