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Easily the best film of 1971


Here's why. To me, this film constitutes a crucial link in the trajectory of films that broke the genre limitations of the western. And that link is what connects Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) with Unforgiven (1992).



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In Altman's film, just as in Leone's, the main protagonist starts out as a larger-than-life mythical figure. The tavern folk treat McCabe with respect, trading rumors about his glorious past, refer to him as a "gun-slinger." The way in which McCabe is filmed as he approaches the tavern, complete with the sequence where he lights a cigar before crossing the bridge, everything in the opening scenes paints him as a mythical larger-than-life hero.

Now Leone never demythologized Harmonica. He alluded to the fact that Harmonica, just like Cheyenne, eventually would die, and the camera, instead of showing him simply ride off (cf. Good Bad and Ugly) instead turns to the sky. Harmonica, Cheyenne, and Frank all are the last of the great heroes of the past, and the film is a farewell to those figures painted against the backdrop of the emerging new West.

Altman entirely demythologizes the main protagonist cliche. We learn very soon that McCabe is not a gun-slinger, rather he is a savvy businessman, the kind of guy who builds his business using his brain, and to a certain extent his image. But the thing is we never see just how he got to build his image. Worse yet, we don't even really see any glimpses of the man he is rumored to be. Has he shot anybody at all, ever? We never find out.

On to Constance. At first she is just a mirror reflection of Leone's Jill McBain. Both are whores and really don't mind it, these are the kind of women who really helped build the West. The difference creeps in as the story unravels, through subtle clues. Constance smokes something, maybe opium, maybe something else. We know that she does it in order to get away from the reality. That's the main difference between her and Jill McBain, who really wasn't endowed with an existentially multi-dimensional perspective. Just like McBain, Constance understands what life really is all about. Unlike Jill, she feels the urge to escape from it. The pipe does the trick.

So the question is this, then. Just what does Constance know about life that depresses her so much? It is in the realm of this existential question, in my opinion, that Altman truly expands on Leone's marvelous draft, making a sequel to that movie as it were.



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I saw McCabe and Constance as representative of the two main character traits that helped build the West. He stood for the idealism, she was an embodiment of the pragmatism. Over the course of the film, McCabe believes that he can find his out of any situation relying merely on his smarts. Even when the assassins hit the town, he still thinks that negotiation is an option. Conversely, long before the trio shows up Constance already knows what is going to happen. Another example. McCabe keeps hoping that one of these days Constance will give him her body for free. He believes in emotions having a higher value than money, in other words. Constance in the meantime keeps charging everyone including McCabe, because she knows that nothing is more valuable than money.

But it's killing her, you see. She smokes the pipe to get away from this reality for a while. There is nothing else that she can do.

Note how the final confrontation between McCabe and the assassins takes place in the quiet deserted streets of the town. Everybody is at first asleep, then gone to the outskirts to put out the fire. Just as the heroes in Leone's masterpiece, Harmonica and Cheyenne, McCabe really is way past his time. The era of the small man who built the country is fading (note what everybody in the town is doing in the meantime, putting out a fire=building) and the large corporations are beginning to take over. Remember how at the end after he shoots the last assassin he kicks the guy's rifle so as to get it to be pointed to the ground? Now there is no other explanation to that move other than McCabe is simply making sure the rifle is not going to go off in his face. In other words, even with two bullets in him, he still believes that he can, and that he in fact has, survived the challenge.

The film consitutes the next logical step after OUTW because McCabe is not a gun-slinger in the first place, something Harmonica and Cheyenne were. And McCabe's opposition is not a mythical bad boy in a dark hat, but a faceless corporation. After those heroes faded, the McCabe of the West came in. Now it is his turn to fade, too. The whore remains. But she wishes she weren't there, either.




Unforgiven was really special because it actually brought the larger-than-life heroes back for one last go-around. But it brought them back old, cranky, and disturbed. Unforgiven was really the last great western, following McCabe and OUTW before it.




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Here's why. To me, this film constitutes a crucial link in the trajectory of films that broke the genre limitations of the western. And that link is what connects Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) with Unforgiven (1992).

Genre limitations?!? You clearly haven't seen many classic Westerns. Because many of these great Westerns did in fact break the genre limitations. Much more successfully and artistically more interesting than Sergio Leone.

Once Upon A Time In The West did nothing, except a kind of pastische of many Westerns far better than it. It's clever bit of casting Henry Fonda as a child-killer is just a gimmick nothing compared to the great casting Ford did in Fort Apache.

McCabe & Mrs. Miller was revolutionary in not approaching the subject matter as Westerns and genre conventions and instead pursued the great idea of re-creating how the frontier terrain might have actually been based on copious research and detailing. The breathtaking visuals being based on worn, sepia-tinted photographs from that period. It is therefore not really a Western in the traditional sense while Unforgiven definitely is, a great western.

So if that's your reasons for it being the best film of it's year and one of the best of it's decade...

In Altman's film, just as in Leone's, the main protagonist starts out as a larger-than-life mythical figure. The tavern folk treat McCabe with respect, trading rumors about his glorious past, refer to him as a "gun-slinger." The way in which McCabe is filmed as he approaches the tavern, complete with the sequence where he lights a cigar before crossing the bridge, everything in the opening scenes paints him as a mythical larger-than-life hero.

Well you clearly haven't seen it carefully. John McCabe is NOT treated as any larger-than-life hero but rather as a vagabond gambler and hustler looking to settle down. Consider how when we see him first through the rain he seems like a yeti and then before entering that town he removes that and shows himself in this suit and then wears a derby all the while you have that very sad Leonard Cohen number on the track. From the onset his vulnerability is emphasized. And the scenes between him and Mrs. Miller emphasize his lack of intelligence and grace but also his charm(which she beautifullly describes as "frontier wit").

Altman's interest is not to mythologize or de-mythologize anyone but to show them as human beings. So John McCabe is no one but John McCabe, Constance Miller is no one but Constance Miller. She's no symbol of anything. McCabe is not a cowboy. The only one who can be called one is a dopey kid(played by Keith Carradine) who gets brutally slaughtered by a pint-sized runt.

On to Constance. At first she is just a mirror reflection of Leone's Jill McBain. Both are whores and really don't mind it, these are the kind of women who really helped build the West.

Pardon me but Claudia Cardinale's character was a mail-order bride not a prostitute. In Altman's film that's pretty much the same thing, but Leone doesn't have that sophistication, being an inferior director than Altman. Leone's film re-inforces the old stereotypes of women in the West needing men to be their chivalric nights. While this film dispenses with all that misogyny.

I'll respond to your other section in another post. I'll just say that if Altman's film is any Western tradition than it is in the tradition of John Ford. Especially The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance which contains the same elegiac, sad atmosphere as McCabe & Mrs. Miller and similarly embraces the pioneers with all their flaws over the civilizers with their sophistication and education who in the end betray all their principles. That scene with William Devane is very much in that tradition. Although he turns out to be useless, what he says and how his character is shown is not. Especially when he says, "So long as people keep dying for freedom, people won't be free."

So it's The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - McCabe & Mrs. Miller and then Unforgiven. Films in very different styles and tones by different film directors.




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I saw McCabe and Constance as representative of the two main character traits that helped build the West. He stood for the idealism, she was an embodiment of the pragmatism.

More that he stood for naivete and she stands for survival. She's more resourceful, more intelligent and not in the least bit interested in any ideals save for self-preservation as well as the self-preservation of her prostitutes whom she cares about a lot, even if she brings them into what's essentially a dead end but then a better dead-end than their other available choices. But the tragedy of her character is that she can't go any further than survival. Her dream is to earn enough money to start a legitimate boarding house. And McCabe turning down that offer from that mining company was also her chance at getting out that she has lost for good.

Constance in the meantime keeps charging everyone including McCabe, because she knows that nothing is more valuable than money.

Not necessarily. She does it because she doesn't want to get emotionally involved with anyone. The only time she does is for McCabe whom she cradles briefly. Probably the only time she didn't charge him money. The opium addiction is also to numb her emotions. That's how she survives and it's not a lot different than McCabe lying dead in the snow. His soul finally frozen. While her's is numbed.

And McCabe's opposition is not a mythical bad boy in a dark hat, but a faceless corporation.

And one against whom he loses in the end even if he shoots those gunmen. The point of view of McCabe & Mrs. Miller is the next step of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. In that film cowboys like John Wayne are replaced by idealistic politicians like James Stewart. Politicians who despite their ideals end up compromising and betraying it, who actually profit by those compromises and betrayals while dedicated honest people like John Wayne die all alone in a coffin in a shop.

John McCabe and the townsfolk however violent they are built that town with their hands, their blood and that hard work, that achievement is buried and forgotten, even nullified by people with more money and power who despite their education end up using the same methods to defeat them as they do in their own primitive ways. Essentially Altman contrasts two kind of businesses while for Ford it's methods of justice and government. The whorehouse which is maintained with professionalism which takes care of it's employees(and obviously the customers) creates a genuine sense of community among the prostitutes which is absent in the rest of the townsfolk. While the ruthless mining company who despite their more modern ways and higher education are just as barbaric and brutal as that guy who cracks open Bart Coyle's skull.




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McCabe may have been a gunfighter but that doesn't necessitate that he killed Bill Roundtree. In the film the issue is very clouded over and characters only refer to it fleetingly. You know that he killed Bill because you read the novel. For those of us who have only seen the film, the question is up for speculation. And I would much rather believe that he did not kill Bill because I find that idea much more appealing and it better suits the iconoclastic nature of the film.

I agree. There is no scene which explicitly tells us that he did shoot Bill Roundtree and in the first scene at the bar when McCabe walks over, he neither confirms nor denies that he shot that guy anyway. Just avoids it altogether.

Altman wanted it to be ambiguous. At the same time, in the final scene after that preacher takes away his rifle, he goes back to his salon and removes a pistol. And even if his fight with those gunmen has a very rough, street quality about it(driven by survival) rather than the usual traditional Western shoot-out containing pseudo-chivalry, he still makes that murder of the second gunmen through a glass window and manages to kill him in a single shot. But then that could be luck as well.

The final guy, Butler, got shot point-blank through his skull.

So I don't think he was a seasoned gunfighter. If anything, the ambush showed a lack of prior experience.

The thing is the film doesn't really care about experience. Like those three mercenaries probably have "experience". That blonde short guy who slaughters Keith Carradine dies all of a sudden at once, taken by surprise. The second guy, who has Native-American features didn't even know what hit him. Ultimately the film's point is, when you are facing a gun it doesn't really matter if you have experience or not.

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The West shown in McCabe & Mrs. Miller shows more concern for violence than Leone's films where people shoot and bodies drop as if they're puppets or something. Altman emphasizes the coldness and the brutality of that violence. Like the death of Keith Carradine, and of course the final shootout where everyone dies and McCabe ends up frozen into a natural snowman.





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It's my #1 of 1971 and favorite Altman film. Beatty should have been nominated along with Christie (who should have won) and Hugh Milais should have won Supporting Actor, along with Cinematography, Picture, and Director

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I wouldn't say "easily" the best film of 71, because 71 had Clockwork Orange, Carnal Knowledge, Straw Dogs, Dirty Harry, Last Picture Show, French Connection and Harold & Maude -- but even amongst that competition, I'd give the nod to McCabe & Mrs. Miller.

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My three faves from 1971 are:
1 Panic in Needle Park
2 The Tragedy of Macbeth
3 Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory

This movie would probably be first or second place if Leonard Cohen songs didn't oversaturate it.



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Every one of those movies is better.....

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The film fails on the literal level (2d characters) and the metaphors you refer to are half baked at best. Unforgiven is a brilliant film because of it's development of William Munny; McCabe is mediocre because of the lack of development of its protagonist.

Still, I salute the effort you put into this, too bad you didn't choose a more worthy film to spend your time on.

As for 1971, the best film I've seen from that year is Dirty Harry; McCabe is the worst.


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Yes, because I disagree with you I must have a problem with attention span

The characters are extremely simplistic and undeveloped; I'm not saying that's the fault of the actors. McCabe starts off as an enigma and ends more or less the same. Are you telling me the relationship he had with Mrs. Miller seemed captivating or realistic to you?

In what way was this an ode to the dying west?

The criticism of capitalism wasn't universal enough to be truly effective; instead of making it seem that capitalism was bad in general it made it seem as if McCabe was an idiot who could have easily avoided his problems.

Failed dreams? What about them?

Even if you were right about the themes, there is nothing here that isn't handled better in Westerns that actually have interesting/convincing stories.





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Capitalism is not "bad in general" nor was it what Altman was suggesting, so your "criticism" looks totally preposterous.

The characters are far from being simplistic or underdeveloped. McCabe´s relationship with Mrs Miller was plenty more captivating and realistic than how such stuff is usually depicted in Hollywood and particularly in westerns - as this genre doesn´t usually contain much in the way of such sybtly sensitive, observative eye that´s at work here.

And yeah... what about the dreams?

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I was talking about Altman's criticism of Capitalism. If you interpret it differently that's fine but my interpretation is at least as valid as yours since I have reasoning behind it.

I don't see how anything about the relationships was captivating in the least and I don't see it as being in any way realistic as I've already explained. If you want to see a Western with a "sensitive, observative eye" that genuinely explores interesting characters check out some Budd Boetticher.

The other guy had a sentence fragment that said "Failed dreams." I said "What about them?" If you also want to know what he meant you should ask him.



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You did write that "instead of making it seem like capitalism was bad in general, he made it seem as McCabe was just an idiot /-/". Sounds like you´re insinuating that Altman´s agenda was to show that "capitalism is bad" to me... If I´m wrong, I apologise - but you should be more clear about what you´re saying.

As for the failed dreams, I don´t see what you´re after here - McCabe got killed and all his dreams with him, of course. What´s so puzzling about it?

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When you said "criticism" I thought you were referring to my use of the word "criticism" here:

The criticism of capitalism wasn't universal enough to be truly effective; instead of making it seem that capitalism was bad in general it made it seem as if McCabe was an idiot who could have easily avoided his problems.
as if I was the one criticising Capitalism.

I wasn't insinuating anything, I was saying that Altman's film is meant to be a critique of some aspects of Capitalism. That's a pretty common interpretation of this film I think and indeed it was the guy I was responding to who brought it up.


I'm not after anything with failed dreams, I just wanted the other guy to explain what he meant by just putting those two words up as if they were a coherent sentence. I find sentence fragments like that puzzling.



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Two Points:
1) "Easily" the best film of 1971?? The Last Picture Show also dates from that year, and both of the films are among the best films of the whole decade, much less the year. No film is "easily the best film of 1971." Sheesh.

2) How can you discuss the films that broke open the Western genre without mentioning The Wild Bunch (1969) with its intense meditations on violence and modernity, twisted morality, and anti-heroes? It's a hugely important film.

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Your second comment is 'easily' the best comment I've read all day - and I do not mean that in any sarcastic way. The Wild Bunch is a pivotal moment in Western-lore.

Please click on "reply" at the post you're responding to. Thanks.

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if its the best of 71 it just means there were a lot of *beep* ass movies made in 71.

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This movie isn't about "Capitalism"... it's a meditation on how the myth of "rugged individualism" that we moderns like to think embodied the Old West has a dark, existential aspect to it

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