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Did anyone see this in its original form - missing scenes

posted 19 years ago by mad19571
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The original Italin/Russian version is shown as being more than an hour longer than the version we get to see. In the faint hope that anyone who comes across this message saw that version could you please post here what you remember of the scenes that did not get to the U.S.
I have a suspision that their may have been more scenes filmed in Russia but I would be interested to know anything that any of you IMDb readers might be able to pass along

Thanks in advance to anyone who might help in this.

I'll make a good Gordon, Gordon!

[–] tom-mot 18 years ago

Dear Gordon,
could you get a copy of the full lenght editing of The red tent?
I have the same task as yours. Can you help me to find a copy on dvd or vhs?
Thanks and best regards.

Tommaso Mottola
Film director
Italy

[–] mad19571 18 years ago

Hello Tommaso,

I am sorry to say that here in the US, to the best of my knowledge, the full length version has never been shown. The film was released on DVD here last year and it was a marked improvement over the VHS copy that had been available for a number of years. For one thing we were able to see the subtitles during the scenes filmed in Russia, but it was still the short version that I saw in the theater, and was impressed with, back in 1971.
Perhaps you will encounter someone in your homeland who has a copy of the original version. One other thought is that if you ever attend any film festivals in Russia you should ask around to see if anyone there has a copy. Perhaps the Italian or the Moscow film archives has a copy. My apologies for not being able to be of more help and I will keep my fingers crossed that your search bears fruit one day.

I'll make a good Gordon, Gordon!

[–] Jonathan_Gates 18 years ago

Not that I read Polish, but I did a web search for The Red Tent under its Russian title, and discovered a Polish web site which is selling a DVD of the film.

http://czerwony.namiot.filmweb.pl/Czerwony,namiot,%281971%29,o,filmie,Film,id=4806

This may be the Russian version. I have no way of telling. So far as I can see the running time is not indicated. And even if it is the Russian version it might not have English subtitles. But if you have a multi-region DVD player and money to spare it could be worth taking a risk on this DVD.

I hope this helps at least a little.

[–] glasses 18 years ago

Well, I have a VHS bought in Moscow with what I believe to be a full version, but it is in Russian and with no subtitles. It is possible to buy this cassette from some russian Internet stores, I don't know about DVD. And since I didn't see truncated version, I can't tell what was cut out.

[–] pavel_malkoff 17 years ago

Russian DVD distributor just recenetly released newly-remastered russian version of Red Tent on DVD. Good thing it is Region 0. Bad thig it has only optional russian subtitles and cropped full-screen image.

Êðàñíàÿ ïàëàòêà
The Red Tent

Format: DVD (PAL) (Super jewel case)
Distributor: Close-Up (Êðóïíûé ïëàí / Krupniy plan)
Regional code: 0 (All)
Layers: DVD-9 (2 layers)
Sound:
Russian Dolby Digital 1.0 Mono
Russian Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles:
Russian
Format: Standart 4:3 (1,33:1).
1969 ã., 152 min., Russia - Italy
Mosfilm, Vides Cinematografica

[–] ranmel 17 years ago

I'd love to see the longer version. The brief scenes in Russia were beautiful!

[–] geode 13 years ago

The Russian release is available at youtube in 16 segments of about 10 mins. each. It starts with titles and then goes to the TV newsreel scene in Rome. The title sequence in the American prints has no titles in this version and some extra shots. The shot of Valaria from the airship on take-off is much longer. One point of view shot from the ship in the air is not framed tightly enough and the blades of the helicopter flying the camera can be seen. This in not in the American prints. It is all in Russian and obviously from a widescreen DVD. I only watched dribs and drabs so far.

Reportedly the scenes of The Italia taking off were filmed in Estonia. All the interiors were shot Moscow at Mosfilm studio. I think this included all of Sean Connery's scenes. I think most of the film was shot in Russia. I think the Italian version was the same international cut length that was shown in the US.

Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...