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great movie...anyone else seen it?


Wow, I'm the first one here. I love this Cliff Robertson classic. I'm hoping to find it on DVD. Guess I'll start checkin around.

Any others seen it?

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Yes, I saw this movie when it came out at the movies years ago. That was the last time I saw it but I still remember what a great movie it was,, a movie with heart. Robertson played it perfect how a man just out or prison and and sorta out of touch how times had changed. He had a dream and went for it. The ending was sad but it was fitting. I wish I had a copy of this movie.

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Wow! Finally a reply. I usually check in on this, but I gave up after a while.

Good to see that someone else loves this film. With all the other junk that's hit DVD, I'd think this one would be up for a nice package.

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HEY HEY HEY!!! I guess I happened to miss it, but it shows that this has been out on DVD for right at 2 years.

I just ordered it brand new, still-in-the-plastic, on widescreen DVD from Amazon for a total of $7.98 or so.

I can't wait!!!!!!!!

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I didn`t see the film until now, but I`m looking for it.
Do you know if I can buy this film also in german? When yes, where?

sandra

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So how do you interpret the ending? No matter how you look at it, it's a downer ending, but do you think J.W. survives? He takes an awful beating from that last bull, but I couldn't decide if the movie wants us to think he's dying or just that he's destroyed whatever was left of his career.

"Congratulations, Major. It appears that at last you have found yourself a real war." Ben Tyreen

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That footage at the end is actually pretty terrifying. I don't know if that was actual footage from a rodeo or a stuntman. Regardless, that guy was nearly gored to death... Scary stuff.

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I remember Cliff Robertson talking about this scene on the talk show circuit when he was plugging the movie 40 years ago. He said the stunt man used a death knot (or a similar term) and wasn't supposed to get as beat up as he did, but because of what he went through they decided to use the footage.

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I remember Cliff Robertson talking about this scene on the talk show circuit when he was plugging the movie 40 years ago. He said the stunt man used a death knot (or a similar term) and wasn't supposed to get as beat up as he did, but because of what he went through they decided to use the footage.

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Count me in as a big fan of this one as well. You should also check out "Junior Bonner" (Steve McQueen 1972) and "When the Legends Die." (Richard Widmark & Frederic Forrest 1972).

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Also note an even less well known rodeo movie made by Steve Ihnat, the killer of Richard Widmark in Madigan. This was his only film as director and he died soon after its completion. It's called The Honkers and starred James Coburn. It's set in Carlsbad, New Mexico. The rodeo ground location is still there.

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I've seen Junior Bonner several times but i just now found this film .. i really liked it .. ending was sad, but no surprise that he got hurt riding with a cast on his leg .. amazing footage there .. i saw something similar happen in Colorado back in the 70's, the guy had to be carried out, it was pretty gruesome .. i worked a ranch up near Collbran,Colorado back then, but i never even saw a horse .. all we did was drive around in trucks opening and closing irrigation gates and hauling hay .. it was a great job though..
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I saw it for the very first time yesterday. Unfortunately, I caught it 30 minutes in but I took a chance on it because I like old cowboy movies. It was great! It almost seemed like a rodeo documentary about one particular cowboy. Very sad ending though.

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My younger sister and I saw it in the downtown theater. We were big fans of Cliff Robertson from early in his career. I recall us going to see "Charly", too.

I hadn't seen it since then and am watching it now. I'm surprised by how little of it I remember because I usually have a great memory for movies, even ones I saw when I was about 4 years old. All I vaguely remembered was it having to do with rodeos. It's on Encore Westerns fittingly enough, meaning it will show up from time to time.




(W)hat are we without our dreams?
Making sure our fantasies
Do not overpower our realities. ~ RC

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What's the name of that beautiful acoustic piece at the beginning of the film?

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I got in after the title sequence, so I'm not sure what was played. If I see it running again, I'll check it out.



(W)hat are we without our dreams?
Making sure our fantasies
Do not overpower our realities. ~ RC

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I really have to take exception. There is zero character development, it plays like a documentary on small town rodeo, there are no fans in the seats at the rodeos, including the National Finals Rodeo, they went way above the legal limit for cliches and the actress who played Big Marge was absolutely the worst actress I have ever seen in a mainstream movie. Basically the story is about a guy who goes to prison for a few years because he gave a "friend" a post dated check for $32.00 and told him not to cash it for a few days and the friend cashed it, which to me does not even sound like a crime, but results in J.W. Coop getting three years plus two more for assaulting a police office and then four or five more for problems in prison and he did the whole ten years (plus two weeks to take part in the prison rodeo.) The rest of the movie consists of him making a slight effort to adapt to society by trying to become a NFR champion and he almost succeeds but even though he is guaranteed runner-up status and even though a doctor has guaranteed he will never ride again if he gets hurt in the event he proceeds to ride the toughest bull in the history of rodeos. There is more but suffice it to say that this is one of the dumbest movies I can ever recall seeing.

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It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen ... but, it was far from the worst. Simply a guy just trying to get by after being kinda railroaded. It played, to me, kinda like Mr. Robertson's real life.
This was probably Cristina Ferrare's best work (in movies, I mean).

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Without a doubt, one of the greatest films I've ever seen. And definitely, the greatest rodeo film, better than even Junior Bonner and on a par with " When The Legends Die " , another classic movie.

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Just caught this film on the MOVIES channel (they do a great job of digging up and playing forgotten and obscure little films like this) and I liked it---like a lot of films of that era, it gives you a good feel for life on the road in that era. And I could tell it wasn't a Hollywood flick----some parts were slightly clumsy, but, overall, I liked the naturalness of the performers and the laid-back pace of the film. Worth watching if you get a chance to see it---plus the Movies channel is good with re-running movies like that, too.

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I saw it for the first time during the same showing on the same network. I was very surprised and impressed by the work Cliff Robertson did with this movie. I enjoyed it a lot and was moved by the portrayal of a man who stubbornly wishes to go on living the live he has always lived in a time when that is no longer possible.

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I don't necessarily agree with the theme you ascribe to this movie but if you want to see a great movie dealing with that theme check out "Lonely Are The Brave."

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