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this maybe be stupid to ask but is there nudiety in this movie?

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Yes there is. You would have to be open minded to view this movie because it is controversial.

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This movie is really controversial, especially according to today standards. There is no killing, no swearing, no fighting, no shooting, there is no blood, no broken bones, no bullyng, no blackmailing... There is love, friendship, understanding, helping. Yes, there is a scene of intended molesting, which actually never happens, and it is clearly shown as something very wrong, and that is (as much I remember) any trace of violence in the movie. And, yes, there is some nudity because a movie was made in the decade when people under 18 were still allowed to take off their clothes to wash themselves. Today, as we are taught, everybody under 18 must keep at least 2 or 3 pieces of clothes and underwear to go under shower or in bath. And suddenly in a one single day, on 18th birthday they change so much and become so mature that they can even make hardporn movies, which are presented to us as not only non-controversial but a good and welcome part of movie industry. I just don't know how can young people act in them, when they know nothing about sex, as movies want us to believe. They must learn very quickly.

Friends is a tender, romantic, honest love story. We are so surrounded and saturated with action movies full of violence that we don't understand love stories anymore. We understand that adolescents are bullyng, fighting, drinking, smoking, steeling cars, taking drugs, but we don't understand they can feel love. Is it because we don't feel it, is it because we created the world full of violence, killing, torturing, and want them to fit in it? And do we envy them because we are older and we have those romantic feelings no more, so is it our jealousy that expects them to live in this dirty violent world we made for ourselves, and proclaims everything else forbidden, immoral, unacceptable, or at least controversial?

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There are no Tony Sopranos, no Eric Cartmans, no Peter Griffins, no Benders or Homer Simpsons, no Michael Corleones (though I could think of an interesting Godfather subplot) ......But I still liked the movie

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WOW! Well said ....

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Excellent comment! I make sure that I teach my children the old school way of things. I miss the old days. Now they make a mountain out of a molehill and all nudity is filthy. Too much dirty sex and many of the kids nowadays have no class or self respect. The girls all want to be strippers! Very sad. I'm glad I grew up in a different time, when the media didn't sensationalize the sleazeballs continually.

Dogtown chica por vida!

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I totally echo przgzr's comments. It was a marvellous films, as are many from that era. There are hardly any decent movies being made nowadays in Hollywood. Only films made by small outfits not aiming for massive box office takings are usually worth watching. Go back to the 1970s, people! Or even the 1950s. Failing that, most foreign-language films are usually far better than ones made in the Anglo-Saxon world.

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[quote="ndt101"]that was in the days where people didn't consider nudity to be a mortal sin like today.[/quote]

I don't think I agree with you. This was 1971. Also, the fact that it's a "tender love story" (I'm sure it is) is unfortunately, not the point; it's not that simple. Now, I don't know if you live in the U.K. or not, nor do I know how whatever country you live in deals with it, but here in the U.S., nudity in the movies (as far as I know) was always considered ("ignorantly"...or not, depending on who you ask) a "mortal sin". Now as for me, I have no position on it. I can only say that it was a surprise that this particular movie didn't get banned in the U.K. (where it originally got an X rating), and I'm also surprised that this movie was released in the U.S. at all. In any event, we "yanks" tend to be more "puritan" about these things.

("Puritan", incidentally, is a reference to U.S. history.)

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You were raised "puritan" sounds like. My parents we very liberal then, even though we were catholics. I had freedom to explore my sexuality in that time, like all my peers. I was smart with protecting myself. My views have changed somewhat, because I consider myself a christian, but I'm not going to be ignorant about young people and their harmones. I remember how I felt when I was young. I don't believe in raising my kids where they cannot be honest and hide everything. Not healthy.

Dogtown chica por vida!

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Yes, I agree with much that is said here. A different time it was, indeed. This depiction of love --yes, YOUNG teen love-- as something beautiful, sad, sweet, joyous, and giving is sorely missing in the offerings of our pop culture these days. Kids will always be kids. Life is about discovering yourself, and fortunately or unfortunately, that self includes a sexual being. There is something very honest about the portrayal of the young humans in this film. I was essentially the characters' age when I saw it (and, sadly, haven't seen it since) and I am still to this day haunted by the truth in this story. I felt honored sitting there, watching, that someone cared to present so sincerely the kind of feelings I was having at the time; the filmmakers respected my intelligence, spoke to my integrity as a human being, and didn't speak down to me just because I was young.

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Do not assume that attitudes in the USA apply elsewhere. They do not. The USA is uniquely puritanical amongst European and European-descended countries.

The American fear of nudity is combined with a sexualisation of children. In most other countries - including Muslim countries - child nudity and often adult nudity is regarded as non-contentious and not inherently sexual. There are movies made by Moslems which feature non-sexual nudity - Child of the Terraces is one that comes to mind. Whereas in the USA all nudity is regarded as sexual, and baby girls are made to wear bras lest anyone see their non-existent breasts. Americans are weird.

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Unfortunately the US dominates the film industry. That is a pity because Hollywood has some serious issues. 1. It is controlled by Jews. That means that the worldwide film industry is heavily influenced by Jews. As a consequence we see Jewish "humour"(AKA filth and vulgarity) instead of comedy; the promotion of a distorted view of the Middle East and world history generally; and an obsession with ridiculing and denigrating Nazis. 2. Puritanism. American puritanism is particularly hypocritical, since Americans are at once the most immoral and the most superficially Christian people. 3. Propaganda. If Hollywood was to be believed, the USA is the best country in the world, and we all envy America. The reality is that most of us pity the poor egotistical, self-centred fatties that live in the US of A.

Back to you comments, nudity was commonplace in American films until the Hayes Code. It was only in the 1960's that nudity started to return. But the rest of the world was never covered by this American rule. Nudity was never considered sinful.

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Nothing wrong with total nudity. Americans are so messed up when it comes to nudity. I can't even stand to see myself nude. I will have to say that young love is the best love. I can still remember those new and incredible experiences that seem to now fade away with age. Stepping into the unknown with a young lover is a fantastic memory for me, worth more than any amount of money.

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Nice movie, yes first love is sweet, but they were a bit too young, barely out of childhood.

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But I think that's part of the point. Extremely young, and yet experiencing, not 'puppy love', but a real, soul-deep love. Rare, but if you have it, you are never the same.

I had it once, though a few (5-ish) years older. Like the film, it was lost. I've carried that torch for almost 40 years. That's not fun, but it is what it is.



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They were old enough to father a child, to find out what that entailed, give birth to that child and lovingly care for that child. This is exactly what human beings have been doing for thousands of years. She would have been 15½ by the time the baby was born, barely a few months before the current age of consent in many countries, though lower in some European countries. How does a few months make a difference, then?

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She had a tough life, she had to struggle, people become mature earlier when life gives them challenges and tasks. So she became mature for life, including motherhood, earlier then majority of people.

In fact, being secured, nurtured, kept away from problems and challenges as most people grow up today, I don't believe they'll become mature enough to have children before they biologically become too old to make them.

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If they don't become mature enough to procreate till it's too late, then evolution will make her choice! Since it was parents who caused this, I'd say it's no bad thing that their genetic line is terminated by natural causes through an inability due to age.

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