I realy love this movie! It is the first time, that these "heroes" are shown as they had been: gangsters, desperados. And Keach and Dunaway are playing there best roles! This movie realy rocks!
"Death makes angels of us all, lets grow wings instead of wolves claws" (James D. Morrison)
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this film purports to tell the truth ... it doesn't. it's just as much fiction as stuff like 'my darling clementine', 'gunfight at the ok corral' etc. costner's 'wyatt earp' is the closest to the truth we have (so far) and even that takes a few liberties.
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'you look just like a scarecrow'
'i am your pallbearer'
In my opinion, Harris Yulin's was the best portrayal of Wyatt Earp I have seen. Forget Lancaster, Costner, Fonda, Robards, et al, Yulin was true to the spirit of Wyatt's intention to clean up the town at all costs, settle some scores, and get rich in the process. And I loved his quote to Holliday, when Stacy Keach mutters something about the people thinking they might be bad men, and Earp tells him, "We ARE bad men, John."
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In spite of your disclaimer Mr. Bilwick, the tone of your question was snide if not belligerent. I have read two including Time-Life's The Gunfighters. And a question for you sir; Who get's your vote for Hollywood's most accurate Wyatt? Or should I just assume Hugh O'Brian?
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A few years ago Harris Yulin was on 24 and his character was being tortured, I said to my wife "Good, he deserves that for his portrayal of Wyatt Earp."
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I was very interested in watching it, what a HUGE disappointment?!!!
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Groovy, Bilwick.
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Good stuff, Bilwick.
The early 70's were still dominated by the anti-Earp sentiment from Waters and the others. In the late 60's Glenn Boyer wrote a book entitled "The Suppressed Murder of Wyatt Earp". This focused on exactly what you are talking about. He felt that Wyatt's reputation had been soiled (murdered, so to speak as indicated in the title) and he wanted to revive the positive image.
His book with Josie's memoirs, history aside, came out in 1975 or 1976 (I can't remember)and that is when the image started to come back around. Say what you want about Boyer but he was at the genesis of Wyatt's reputation being re-salvaged.
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Outstanding western. The best one about Wyatt Earp and Doc. Very gritty and low-key. A great 70s western.
Good call man.
IMO, The portrayals of Doc & Wyatt were Excellent BUT The gun fight at O K corral was worst than any other version I've ever seen, I mean ALL the Earps having shotguns and blowing away the Clantons? give me a break.
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I agree the portrayals of Doc & Wyatt were good in the sense that they captured the "dark side" of these hard men. However, the historical inaccuracies regarding the Clanton/McLaury "cowboy" faction was laughable. I realize that Hollywood has taken many liberties with the "Gunfight at the OK Corral" over several movies but this was way out on the limb just so the movie maker could make his revisionist view of the Earps and Holliday more viable. Pretty sad. In my humble opinion, the movie "Tombstone" was closer to factual history (granted with some Hollywood embellishments). Read the "Time Life Book" accounts of the Gunfight at OK Corral for comparison.
Yours was the only post that I read here that captured my feelings toward this very flawed western.
love the grit.
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This was the most preposterous, absurd, ludicrous, ridiculous, and contrived account of this historical event as I've ever seen. I realize it's intended to be another perception, and there is supposed to be some "creative license" and liberties taken by the makers; but this movie is just downright awful. A person would have to know virtually nothing about the events to enjoy this garbage. Even a child with a marginally accurate elementary school history class would know this was sheer stupidity. I'd even go so far as to call the portrayals in this "film" (and believe me, I use that term loosely here) borderline slanderous, libelous, and defamatory. Were I a descendant of any of the characters in real life, I'd definitely have looked into suing the writers, producers, director, actors, and studio for all they were worth. It's a complete travesty, and a waste of an hour and a half of my life.
shareThis wasn't a documentary - none of the films about Earp were - a well-made, well-acted film with interesting outlook and script.
shareI love it too. Much more interesting than any other movie I've seen about John Holiday.
As for how "accurate" the people and events presented, I'll let you know just as soon as I view the video-recording of the actual events as they happened - or at least speak directly to the many eye-witnesses who were standing around watching the shootout.
the transcript of the so-called OK Corral shootout inquest is available- why not start there? You can see for yourself what a crock of crap this film is.
"It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's LIVING!"
Captain Augustus McCrae
There are historical records of who live, died, and were wounded. Also records of who held what offices.
shareYou don't know how they really were. Nothing that comes out of Hollywood is accurate. It's all skewed by the times and political persuasions of those involved. This is no different than any other inaccurate Hollywood history lesson.
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