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Who would win in a bar fight, Billy Jack or Dalton?


Hypothetical. Suppose Posner (an old drinking friend of Brad Wesley's, but, unbeknownst to Dalton) sets up a bar in town, and hires Dalton to be the cooler. Now, Dalton's just doing his job, watching his bouncers backs, and taking out the trash, when some of those filth Freedom School hippie kids show up. Now, you have to be 21 to enter a bar, and drink and have a good time. But, these stupid and arrogant kids think they can do whatever they want, so they violate the rules and enter anyway. Little miss Up Yours sashes up to the bar and asks for some beers. The bartender refuses because, y'know, they're underage. But, rather than being seen as just a denial of underage kids, it's seen as racial discrimination, and refusal to serve alcohol to Indians. Enter Billy Jack….who sighs, rubs his face, and spends 30 minutes lecturing the bartender about how disgusted he is with the white man and him keeping the Indian down. He then karate chops a bouncer and throws him our of the bar's window.

Now, Dalton intervenes. He's been nice, but now it's time to no longer be nice. Billy jack won;t walk, so Dalton decides to walk him. He tells Billy it's time for him to leave. Billy chuckles and says "Y'know what I'm gonna do? Just for the sheer hell of it? I'm gonna take this foot…and woo you right across your mullet sporting face. And y'know what? There's not a damn thing you can do about it." Dalton responds that, "Opinions vary."

Now, the stage is set, the fight begins….who wins?!??!

"Say, do you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper..."

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Chuck Norris could kick both butts!

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" it's thoughts like this that kept me out of the really good schools"__ george carlin.

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Sorry to crash this question, but I was going to ask how such horrible movies, such as Billy Jack, get so many people rating them as 10s? Even if you like a movie, a ten is supposed to represent a perfect movie. Probably less than 1/100 movies made deserve to be voted 10, yet EVERY movie, no matter how universally bad they are, will have a LARGE number of 10 votes. So my question is, does someone pay people to come on IMDB and vote EVERY movie listed 10?

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A perplexing situation, to say the least.

Dalton, being a typical self-absorbed 80's individual suffering from Narcissistic Disorder, hits the gym six days a week, and therefore, is in superior physical shape. His interesting combination of intense physical training (spurned by low self-esteem) and indulgence in various pharmaceutical stimulants (spurned by low self-esteem) guarantee that, while his inner-being is in complete and utter turmoil, his outer-self is in pristine shape.

Billy Jack, however, being a product of the politically and socially charged late-60's, finds himself forced to clearly shape and define his inner-self. He is compelled to decide exactly where he stands on everything from war, to free love, to politics, to sex, religion, the meaning of life, the meaning of death, etc., etc. Therefore, his inner-self is looking pretty good. And, in the meantime, he is in pretty good physical shape, too, being an ex-Green Beret solider who has to climb up a half-mile of rickety, handmade ladders every time he grapples up the cliffs to his lair to study at the feet of his Native American (a.k.a. Indian) mentor................who instructs Billy Jack how to further develop and strengthen his inner-self.

So, it boils down to Dalton's outer-self versus Billy Jack's inner-self. And anyone who watches a lot of movies knows, it's the inner-self that really matters.

Billy Jack's pure, crystalline, earnest belief in his ideals and motives, no matter how potentially skewed they are, will sustain him in this moment of turmoil, and he will emerge victorious over Dalton. Not to mention, Billy Jack will grab Dalton's luscious, flowing mane of golden hair, and spin him around like a ballerina, all the while pummeling him into unconsciousness!

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No way. Dalton would tear the %%^&# throat out.

"Say, do you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper..."

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Yeah, but Billy Jack killed Bernard with a karate chop to the throat, remember? They both know how to kill bare-handed. It'd be an epic fight.

"No no no- don't tug on that... you never know what it might be attached to."

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It depends on what kind of band is playing at the bar that night. If it is some kind of hippie band with bongos, guitars and tambourines, then Billy Jack will get into a grove, and kick some Dalton butt.

But if The Jeff Healey Band is in town, then Dalton will kick butt and take names.

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true.

The hippie band would allow Billy Jack to start getting into his Indian mojo. He's lecture Dalton on the sins of the white man.

"Say, do you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper..."

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i am sorry but billy jack would win. as he is not only an expert in hapkido but a former Green Beret special forces

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But Dalton was trained by Wade Guerret.



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They wouldn't fight at first, but have an epic bromance, riding horses & debating philosophy. Then Wade would show up, get drunk and tell Dalton's new BFF he is one long winded SOB, and full of himself, and doesn't look indian at all so his mama must have cheated with a white man. Billy goes gives a defiant speech lasting about 17 minutes then goes bezerk, kicking Wade's bad knee and dislocating his mustache. Dalton walk's in seeing his friend and mentor's bloody mustache in Billy's clenched fist batters him to the ground, prepares to remove his throat, but is then easily defeated by Billy's Korean stunt double. Billy gives another long speech about the nature of friendship and violence, that even his double finds annoying, leaving never to be heard from again.

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I see....

Say, do you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper.....

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