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this film ( and i like biker/exploitation films sucked


it was boring, not campy, not cool, and just plaIN LAME, DONT WAISTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY, WORST BIKER FLICK IVE SEEN, AND IVE SEEN MAYBE 30-40 OF EM..

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Hi wendi - I just bought it for cheap and was planning on watching it. So it's not as good as 'Hells Angel's on Wheels' w/ Jack Nicholson? Damn!




"The Film in which you are about to see is an account of a tragedy that befell a group of 5 youths"

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Flowbeer,
All motorcycle movies are really terrible, unless yer hammerin' down a fridge full of brew. After a bunch of those, then even yer old lady starts lookin' good. Ya gotta remember that Hollywood believes that its the dramatics that sells a movie, not the action. That's why there are few bike scenes in any motorcycle movie (how stupid). All motorcycle movies are writen by non bikers. The stars are not bikers, Nicholson included. Angels:HATC was writen in England by 2 non bikers. They wrote it to exploit your dollar. Then they came back to the US and produced it.
Get this. I was the guy that opened the movie. I got a stink bomb from an old truck, and stuffed it into my waistband. When they told me what I was going to do with it, I seized up like I ran out of oil. Ya gotta be kidding?!?! Nooo. I'm gonna throw it into a DEA car that is chasing my biker buddies? Yea, the DEA is gonna bust them making a drug deal. But yer the lookout and you warn your buddies when the DEA shows up. I do? Yea, and when the DEA shows, yer buddies boogie, with the DEA in hot persuit. Then you leave you lookout spot and you find a secluded spot where you wait until Scot Glenn comes by, chased by the DEA. How do I know what road they'll be on? Oh, we'll take you there (not the logical answer I wanted). After yer there, throw the stink bomb in the open window of the car. Why is the window open? Well, ya can't throw it in if it isn't (again, not the logical answered I wanted).

It wasn't probable by any strech of the imagination. HA on W wasn't any better. The Angels jump 2 biker cops, beat the crap out of them, and release Jocko. Then Hoss and I throw the cops down a bluff, which, for some unkown reason, hit the cutting room floor. And nothing ever became of this altercation in the movie?

The very first scene we shot, the director told us that we were waking up from a hard party, get on their bikes and spin hookers in a given area, and give him lots of action. I just walked over to a rented bike, leaning against a tree and sat on it. I thought the whole thing was really stupid. It just didn't happen in real life, ever. With "action", everybody got up at the same time, mounted and started their scooters at the same time, and started for the action area. As they bikes came by me, I said to my self "Just do it". So I started bull fighting the bikes. When the director yelled "cut", I thought the embarasing situation was over. Not so. Then he had me go through all the bull fight moves to a wild camera. Well, when I saw the finished movie, The whole movie was realy bad, until the ending, which took this wretched expression of art to a previously, unobtainable low.

I thought motorcycle movies would pass with time, and they did, until Jack hit star status. 10 years later, HAOW was shown on primetime TV. It was just as bad as the first time I saw it. Here it is,42 years, and its still alive, hell, they all still live, and they are all still terrible. Watch at your own risk!!!!!!

Love to All, Dirty Denny (IMDB)

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yeh but Denny! the posters were so kool, and at 16, at the drive-in in 1971, looking at being drafted, drinking beer to compliment a drug, it didn't get any better, except Pam Grier movies :-)you and William Smith were heroes to us, if I wasn't such a loner I may have joined a club just to be as bad ass as you guys were in the movie, not like the hippie bikers in Easy Rider :-), .........Rick

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Rick,
Thanks for the praise. Bill and I did work together in Angels Die Hard. Besides Bill's size, he could also ride a chopper. You'd think he was a real biker. I was a biker that could barely act, but I looked real. I thought I'd take another look at AHTC to maybe see what you saw.
My scooter does look bigger than life, and I do look like heavy weight scooter trash. Its amazing the images that movies can creat, because I'm actually, pretty well layed back. About the only reason I was an outlaw biker was because I wasn't afraid to be one.
Outlaw biking is definitely not for sissies. But the real biker lifestyle was nothing like the excitement created in the movies. Outlaw biking was a 24/7 gig, and it really wasn't that exciting, but when it was exciting, it was downright scarey. When you play big boy's games, you play by big boy's rules, and the big boys play for keeps.
Getting paid to be a "Hollywood" biker in a movie was different, although biker movies had nothing to do with real outlaw life, including Easy Rider. It really sucked.
Love To All,
Dirty Denny

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Hey, Dirty Denny:

Hope you are well. Thanks so much for your insight into this film. This was a decent attempt by Jonathan Demme to capture the biker mystique, but it could have used a bit more plot development in my opinion. The performances, including yours, were very good considering this was mostly a cast of non-actors.

It loses quite a bit seeing it on DVD (especially with the poor prints available) compared with the drive-in experience. Guess you had to be there. Good thing you were – and lived to tell about it!

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I thought this film was a good deal of vintage sleazy 70's grindhouse fun. Moreover, this film had valid points to make about loyalty, betrayal, abuse of power, and the failure of the 60's hippie love generation, with the passive pacifist attitude that the hippies embraced making them easy prey for the more hostile and aggressive bikers to take cruel advantage of.

I've been chasing grace/ But grace ain't easy to find

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