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I think there's a good chance Evans actually did it...


In the film, Evans is shown on trial never explicitly admitting to the murder of his wife and baby daughter. However, in the real trial, I have just read that Evans admitted, in quite some detail, that he was responsible for the murders.

But that then brings up the possibility of two murders living under the same roof, which is quite unlikely. The reality is, this is an extremely obscure case and I don't really know what to think - but the film itself isn't that accurate.

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Going back to the possibility of seaman in Mrs Evans, the pathologist, Proffessor Teague? wrote in his report that there appeared to be some vaginal bruising, but that the case was disterbing enough, and he would not persue the possibilty that she had been raped. A swab was not taken. Christie did have sex with his victims, he said so in his confession. He just had to kill them first.

As for false confessions, people make these all the time. Stephan Kisko confessed to the murder of Lesley Moleseed, a ten year old child, and served 16 years before being cleared by DNA. The real murderer is now in prison. The Cardiff three confessed to the murder of a woman, and served many years before the real murderer, who left his blood at the scene, was caught amd convicted. The Guilford four, Margaret Livsey, perhaps now Amanda Knox, the list goes on. Confessions mean nothing, unless they are made in court.

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Seldom find two murderers under one roof?

How about Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Or how about Fred and Rosie West. The truth is; you often find two murderers living under one roof. They are usually cohabiting.

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Living in such poverty would create a tinderbox atmostphere for an immature and volatile man like Evans....maybe he did flip and kill his wife.I think the chances of two killers under the same roof is not as ridiculous as it first sounds.

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There's certainly room for doubt. I'd hardly describe Christie and Evans as 'co-habiting' but whether either of them did both murders or they did one each, some kind of collusion or mutual knowledge is highly likely. The film is in my view simply a dramatisation of Kennedy's book, the 'ofiicial version', rather than a definitive explanation. If this case had been solved without doubt, it might well have faded into memory and wouldn't be discussed today.
As a society, we seem to appear to be skeptical but then accept 'official versions' as fact. So, officially why did the U.S. get involved in Vietnam?? It's since been admitted (it's on record) that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a total lie which resulted in thousands of American deaths and a million Vietnamese casualties. And JFK? (he wanted to shut down the private federal reserve and not get involved in Vietnam) 9/11? 7/7 in London?? the list goes on. Anything that involves politics involves money which involves agenda.
The British government had its own agenda in this case, which was not to admit that Evans was innocent even after Christie's other crimes had been exposed, so they only gave Scott Henderson 7 days! to do a full review. Evans was only pardoned in 1966 for the murder of baby Jeraldine (apparently this is the correct spelling of her name) which was the murder he was tried for but was still held accountable for the murder of his wife, which he hadn;t been tried for. Therefore, they were able to pardon him without actually admitting they'd hung an innocent man, which was quite canny on their part. In 2004, Evans's sister tried agin to get a full pardon but was turned down, although it was acknowledged that Evans was 'probably' an innocent man.
If push comes to shove, i would say they both had a hand in the Evans murders.

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Christie killed the wife, Evans killed the daughter.

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Any smoking gun or just a hunch??

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I read that Brian Donald Hume spoke to Christie whilst Christie was on death row.Christie admitting killing Beryl but not the child. I am wholly aware that Hume himself was a notorious criminal but i can't see why Christie would choose to lie about this right up to the end.

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Maybe because childkillers are the lowest of the low?

To compare Myra and Ian to explain that there may be two people under the same roof who kill, that is nonsense. Myra and Ian found each other because of this.

First of all, Christie and Evans did not love each other, and they would have acted alone in their individual killings. And, they would both have had the desire to rape and molest dead women. Not likely.

Or, you can please show me another case where two killers live under the same roof, having nothing to do with one another, and also have the same, sick sexual preferencies.

And Donald Hume was insane, he chopped up his victim.

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How do you know that Evans and Christie had nothing to do with each other ?
Are you saying that every murderer who chops up a victim is insane ? I seem to remember he chopped up his victim to make it easier to dispose of the body parts at sea, hardly the actions of an insane man (at the time).
Timothy Evans was a violent, headstrong imbecile. Christie was a cold calculating psycopath. I can't think of any other circumstances where two such people have been residing at the same location but that doesn't mean that it can't ever happen.

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Just one point re your post.I think there's a difference between a sick sex killer and a dangerous short tempered wife beating man living in poverty with a crying baby.Both could kill.

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Also I don't think Death Row prisoners (not that the term is used in the UK ) socialised with each other .stuck in the death cell for 3 weeks .

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I've read everything I can lay my hands on about this case including "The Two Killers Of Rillington Place"
Always had a niggling feeling at the back of my mind that Evans wasn't as innocent as history portrays him.
However, if he did commit murder, I can envisage Christie persuading him to do so (in the case of Geraldine).
Have we not only Evans' word that Geraldine was alive and well when he left to go to work that day?
I'd say it was 95% certainthat Christie was the sole killer - but we'll never know for certain.

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I thought Christie eventually confessed to it that

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