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For those that Have Cannon S1Vol1-Running Time per 'EP'


If anyone has the first season of Cannoincould you tell me on average how long each episode appears to be?I ask,because i am curious to know how many minutes were edited out of the reruns that appeared on TvLand some time back.

Most of the "eps" i have run very cose(49minutes and change)to what would appear to be the original running time of each episode.I know back in 'the day" programs had fewer commercials.Your averge sitcom ran 25 minutes or so and your hour programs ran 50minutes and rthen some.

If possible,anyone w/ this set could provied the actual average time per "ep".Like 50:35min what-have-you.

Thx

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i believe its a few minutes over 50, how many exactly ill have to check. there is the episode promos featured which i never saw on normal tv, and they take a minute or more sometimes.

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I'm writing this in July 2012, and "Cannon" is on ME-TV which is carried by a number of broadcast stations as a subchannel. I can understand the disappointment of the Season 1 & 2 DVD purchasers if the ME-TV quality represents the quality of the DVDs. (I have not seen the DVD's) The episodes are very dark and soft looking, seemingly from 16mm prints of the 1980s. Most of the ME-TV shows are of this quality.

The uncut Cannon shows should be 51 minutes. In the early days of TV, it was more like 52 to 54 min. It started dropping down from 51 in the 1980s... A minor point but one to keep in mind is that when Cannon was shown first-run on CBS, they were showing a 35mm print. Not video. Video and film are different speeds, frame rates, film projectors running at different speeds (no two projectors run ** exactly** the same), you get the picture. It may not be germane to this discussion but people should be aware of this. Then there is also the possibility to compress video, whereas nothing like that was done in the film days. Almost all television in those days was film-based. The networks ran movies in 35mm but had a 16mm print running at the same time, in sync, in case the 35mm went down.

We also have to consider the ** speeding up ** of video which is a common practice by today's TV channels. This, combined with actual cutting, now has brought the reruns to 46 minutes of actual playing time. I have recorded shows extensively and have been able to verify this countless times. ME-TV is a 46-minute hour. Virtually all other channels are the same, including TV Land and "ThisTV". (This TV cuts movies for censorable content, and for trimming of time purposes. That channel seems to be 88 minutes of content per 2 hours. If the movie was under 88 min. it will be cut only for censorable content as this channel makes everything "G" rated, so to speak.)

Approx. 5 minutes of the hour long shows like Cannon are being tampered with. A combination of cutting and speeding up of the video.

A case in point is an extensive study I did on "Batman" in the 1990s when it was on TV Land and FX at about the same time. I made numerous recordings of episodes on both channels, and the same episodes so that I could compare. I am a video editor and producer so I had use of equipment akin to a doctor's microscope.

Both FX and TV Land cut the shows but in different ways. I could edit both together to make a more complete episode but I was never convinced I had ** it all **. There were still things cut by both channels, so I think a complete episode was impossible to get.

The cuts were laughable -- willy nilly trims here and there just to cut out 2 to 3 minutes per episode. Dialogue between two characters would be trimmed, so that you might get the "Question" but not the "response". The fight scenes, with the "Pow" "Wham" graphics were often trimmed.

The two channels ran the Batman shows at different speeds too - because I could never get two identical episodes to stay in sync when run simultaneously on my editing equipment.

All in all it seems to me there is a niche market for a "Turner Classic Movies" kind of channel that runs uncut television shows!

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I am working my way thru the Cannon episodes right now. They are from tv land. I would disagree with the earler post on the length of tv shows over the years. I am a huge tv buff and love old tv shows.

Nowadays it seems like shows are running at 42 to 44 minutes per show. I don't really watch much new stuff anymore, but that is what the run time seems to be.

Back in the 50's and 60's you could get a run time of 51 to 52 minutes. As the 70's came around they dropped down to 49 to 50 minutes. Then as the 70's got near the end, the run time was 48 to 49 minutes. The 80's came and the run time is roughly 48 minutes.

It's amazing how over the years actors get payed more and more for doing less and less. And the junk on tv now does not even compare to the great shows of the 50's, 60's, 70's and up thru the mid 80's.

It looks to me like the Cannon shows from Tv land are for the most part uncut. It's sad because I am sure if they ran on that channel today, they would cut about 5 minutes off.

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