Military Music


Does anyone else here appreciate the military music played in various scenes in this movie? I am thinking in particular of the scene where Napoleon says farewell to his Old Guard. They really did have this very impressive military music back then in the early 19th century. Stirring stuff!

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The slow march played at that scene is quite effective, although I find a lot of French Napoleonic-era marches to be hit and miss.
If you are searching, the grandest by far is "The Consular March at Marengo" - which is featured in both Waterloo and the Russian War and Peace. This march is a grand slow march with a rousing charge-like chorus in the middle.
Some of the bouncy horse-cavalry marches are impressive too, in a loud kind of way.

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I am thinking in particular of the scene where Napoleon says farewell to his Old Guard.


It's the marche des éclopés, composed with syncopated accents but also with some tender irony so wounded and lame soldiers could parade as well. Napoleon was "wounded" and "lame" after he abdicated and was leaving his palace at Fontainebleau, so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMpRyuZ0UUo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f3sYCmeGoM

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Thankyou very much for the explanation, Aloysius. On first viewing of the film I had thought that the music in this scene was a little discordant, especially with those "syncopated accents", as you aptly described them. I had thought that more solemn music would have been appropriate and had wondered if the use of that type of music was indicating that the vibrant military marches of the Empire were at odds with the uncharacteristic despair the Old Guard was facing at the abdication. Your explanation of the subtle meaning of the music makes much more sense. Incidentally, I discovered the march used in the film was an authentic period piece after recognising it upon listening to a CD of marches from the Consulate, First Empire and Second Empire periods (Echos de L'Epopee Imperiale, A Tribord,2004) that I had purchased in Paris. The track is simply titled "La Boiteuse" which I believe is the subtitle of a circa 1812 march and, if Google translation is a guide, "La Boiteuse" means "lame", just as "Marche des Eclopes" is, roughly, "marching lame". Thanks again for the information. I also noticed that the film uses "La Victoire est a Nous", a march written by David Buhl which I believe was designed to be played on all fields of battle to boost the morale of the Grande Armee before a fight began in earnest (whereas the British were portrayed in the film using a call and response of "Our Atty" for a similar purpose).

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Napoleon was a great believer in the psychological value of military bands, and his army included good-sized bands for all regiments, with flashy uniforms, all paid for by the state. In contrast, the British Army contained no officially-funded bands at all; such bands as it had were personally funded by regimental colonels, or sometimes by all the regimental officers putting money into a band fund. As a result, only the most fashionable regiments had bands anything like the size of French ones - your average 'fish-and-chip' line infantry regiment might have a band of only half a dozen instruments - say a serpent and a couple of hautboys, horns, etc.

Also, the musicians weren't soldiers but were hired civilians, and the terms of their employment might or might not include actually accompanying the regiment on the battlefield. Many British regiments going into battle left their band behind with the rest of the heavy baggage - or even at home in their regimental depot in England - as a matter of course.

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syntinen, interesting post. Please see my belated reply to Cracklight, and the links.



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You're welcome, Cracklight! Excuse me for having taken such a long time to reply to you, I was absent from the IMDb Message Boards for nine months. I came back less than three weeks ago and had to look for old posts like yours.

La Boiteuse, indeed!

Besides those marches you mention, one of my favourites is Jean-François Lesueur's and N. Roze's La Marche du Sacre de Napoleon I , composed for the coronation of Napoleon on December 2, 1804 (on December 2, 1805 he celebrated its first anniversary with his greatest victory: Austerlitz!!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHJfdVWGh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aav_d3xiNzk

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Roze's - Vivat in aeternum is an apotheosis: I love it.

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