Boring is the word


I have watched B movies and badly scripted movies, but THX1138 is worst of them all. I can understand why it was not liked in 1971. A nightmare of the worst kind.

I only ask to be free. The butterflies are free. - Charles Dickens

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Unsuccessful troll is Unsuccessful.
No THX 1138 would argue this topic it's simply not relevant for this picture.

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Disagreement with your opinion does not make the OP a troll. I'm so sick of people misusing that term.

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The Original Post author has an appropriate name "Blond" ... By the way, your opinion adds no value to the conversation.

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Nice double negative there! You do know you practically said the troll is successful?

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"Nice double negative there! You do know you practically said the troll is successful?"


Nice misunderstanding of that person's post, taking it at only face value. It's a meme, you dolt. You might consider looking it up.




Additionally, all of the people complaining about how boring this film was, are simply suffering from residual lower-primate attention span. Added to that unfortunate shortcoming, they've also been conditioned, are are slaves to this conditioning. Action films and rapid-fire commercials have influenced them so greatly that they simply cannot respond favorably to anything else. More than 2 or 3 seconds between cuts immediately registers as "boring" in their minds.

It's not that these people are (a more than average level of) stupid, as the pretentious piggies love to say, and that they just "didn't get it". I think they got it, but they can't get around their conditioning, like the Pavlovian dogs.

Bell...equals food.
Long takes but no fights, robots, hyper-violence/sex, or acrobatics...equals boring.

It's been hard-wired.

A pity. But, that's the vast majority. Most everyone will indeed find this film boring, only a small percentage wont. Thankfully for the majority, there is plenty of James Cameron and Michael Bay films to keep their interest. Oh, and those Fast and Furious films too. Passive and mindless entertainment galore!

Eat up!

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It is a hard film to sit through at times. You have to be in the right frame of mind, wanting to see something that you know must have an end in a very bleak world.

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My guess is that the OP isn't a big fan of some Japanese cinema. If you've seen the pacing and the way some of Japan's films are structured, you can see a similarity in the way Lucas sets up and shows certain scenes.

Then again, the majority of American audiences can't wrap their minds around Japan's storytelling processes in many cases.


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- Toy Story 3 (9/10)

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Possibly. To me this film is far more existential than a lot of slow paced Japanese Cinema, but it has that "vibe" to it.

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i have had the DVD for nearly 10 years and have tried to watch the film a number of times. Today I got through it and either I don't get it, or it was just plain boring and a pretentious rip off of 1984. I guess everyone has to start somewhere. I like sci-fi and especially the ones which make you think for a long time after seeing the film, but this does not anywhere near compare with the Russian Solyaris, which was made about the same time.

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Yeah Emuir, it's kinda stinky. You must have the fancy Directors Cut too, even the box admits people didn't like it, but George Lucas says he's "proud" of it.. it's more of just a nice film to watch as a piece of film history. I didn't even find it visually appealing, it's just white. It tries hard, and fails.

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Boring people usually throw around the word boring to describe things, especially films they don't understand.

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Pretentious jerks who want to feel better than other people usually say people don't understand things if the person didn't like them. Admittedly, the only cool part was the end where the chase stops because it ran over budget.

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Well SNOOT SNOOT!

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Haha! You got that right! And I don't think that you simply citing a relevant truth here makes you pretentious or a jerk either, no.

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The only reason people class this movie as a sci-fi classic is because it's Lucas' only sci-fi movie.

Don't listen to all these people telling you you missed something or it went over your head.

Man doesn't like dystopian society, man runs away. Nobody needs to sit through 2 hours of this if there's no other story line.

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voteselome, that's the most accurate review I've heard. +1

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Accurate? Do you mean it's exactly what he thought, or that it's exactly what you thought?
It was an interesting movie, but perhaps not for some that are under 30. Or someone who expected to see a different movie and was in a mood throughout because of it.

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witchsbrew82 said:

Pretentious jerks who want to feel better than other people usually say people don't understand things if the person didn't like them. Admittedly, the only cool part was the end where the chase stops because it ran over budget.


I feel "better" because I made the suggestion the OP did not understand the film, and that makes me a pretentious jerk? Your logic and reasoning are flimsy at best.

My comment is deserving when the OP's critique is solely based on "B movies" and/or poorly scripted films he/she has watched; categorizing this film as such is a subjective reference point, and is by no means a convincing justification in labeling it a "nightmare of the worst kind."

Because the OP was unable to go into detail, about the film itself, and relied heavily upon relating to it with negative associations, he/she left the door open to interpreting his or her dissatisfaction with it; hence why I suggested that he/she was bored because he/she did not understand the layers of meaning it has to offer. More importantly, this kind of irresponsible criticism can lead others to ignore the film and/or not give it a fair viewing. Now if the OP, or others, would be more descriptive in their dislike of the film, and back up their position with something more substantial than "it was boring," then they would be contributing something positive to the discussion.

People like voteselome will interject by saying not to listen to those of us who say "you missed something or it went over your head." He/she then follows that up by giving a generic, child-like interpretation of the film. By that very description the film does sound very boring, and on the surface it might appear to be that way. However, if you know anything about literature, and have an interest in philosophy, then you might be surprised to learn that this film uses the "Allegory of the Cave," by Plato, as a fundamental plot structure. When you examine the film using this particular lens, it becomes much more interesting and diverse; and this is just one of the many themes the film explores. Obviously if you don't have an interest in Plato, or do not want to bother yourself with reading about the other themes, then of course the film will remain boring.

When people only see the surface of what they are examining, or in this case what they are being entertained by, and are only willing to stay within the confines of their own ego-driven intelligence, then of course things will be "boring." When this mindset is applied to a film like this, these people will ignorantly declare that "there's no other story line" because they were unwilling and unable to look any deeper.

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Man doesn't like dystopian society, man runs away. Nobody needs to sit through 2 hours of this if there's no other story line.


The same criticism could be made of all of Shakespeare's plays, in light of the fact that all of those stories had been told many times before, by many different authors. Why, then, should anyone care to read Shakespeare?

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Shakespeare is great for people who enjoy it, but it's not the necessity that educators in North America insist it is. There are lots of writers from lots of different cultures writing about the human condition in a way that people may be able to relate to more easily, or might find more interesting, than Romeo and Juliet, Othello, or Julius Caesar.

God forbid someone find Camus, Dostoevsky, or Maya Angelou more substantial than Shakespeare.

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with a wide and diverse canon of literature, and the writers you mention all deserve attention. However, it is important to note that they all also drew inspiration from Shakespeare. "Shakespeare is a prophet sent to us by God to reveal to us the mystery of man, of the human soul" - Fyodor Dostoyvevsky, cited in "Russian Essays on Shakespeare and his Contemporaries", Univ. of Delaware Press; "When I was young, I thought Shakespeare must have been a black girl. How else could he know what I felt?" - Maya Angelou, Lecture at Randolph College, 2013; Albert Camus' "The Myth of Sisyphus" is replete with references to the soliloquy from Hamlet, Camus adapted "Othello" for his own theatre production, and on the day Camus died, of the four texts he was carrying, two were his own, one was by Nietzsche, and one was "Othello". That many people have access to intelligent and beautiful insights into human character and human motivations does not mean that there are not individual artists whose gifts in capturing and presenting them surpass others, and in the considered opinion of many, myself included, Shakespeare is one of these artists. To not teach Shakespeare is to squander an opportunity.

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Totally agree, they give us no explanation to this underground society at all, no character development, and we are supposed to feel something for them for 90mins?
I feel the movie could be great if we knew more about the leaders/developers and their intent for the underground world.

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You understand nothing. Your existence is a nightmare, a boring one.

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Decent people shouldn't post here. They'd be much happier posting somewhere else.

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Just because you revere this movie, does not mean that everyone should worship it too. I expressed my honest opinion and I still believe that this is a very depressing, bleak and boring movie. Story development is very slow and it looks like a documentary for most of the time leaving the viewer wondering - what the hell is happening.

I only ask to be free. The butterflies are free. - Charles Dickens

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Blonde2291,

I think you are confused with what the words reverence and worshiping means. Those of us who enjoyed the film do not worship it; well, maybe some do, so I can't speak for them. And if those same people post about their enjoyment, how is that any different from you posting your dislike of it? Don't make yourself out to be the victim by playing this card, like you are being attacked for no reason; this is an open discussion, one that you created.

Moving on...

Your original post was this:

I have watched B movies and badly scripted movies, but THX1138 is worst of them all. I can understand why it was not liked in 1971. A nightmare of the worst kind.


As I pointed out, along with others, this kind of drive-by commentary isn't going to win you points; it certainly isn't going to make people think you are actually providing any real criticism. Honestly, what kind of responses were you hoping to get? Were you expecting to have a bunch of haters jump on your bandwagon? Maybe you were just trolling?

Any ways, it now seems as if you are backtracking:

I expressed my honest opinion and I still believe that this is a very depressing, bleak and boring movie. Story development is very slow and it looks like a documentary for most of the time leaving the viewer wondering - what the hell is happening.


Unfortunately those are two very different opinions of the film, yet they are both yours. So which is it? Is this movie still a nightmare and the worst of its kind, or is it depressing and boring? If it's the latter then refer to my other response about viewers who use the word "boring" to describe films. The fact that you even say "what the hell is happening" confirms what I said about your original post:

When people only see the surface of what they are examining, or in this case what they are being entertained by, and are only willing to stay within the confines of their own ego-driven intelligence, then of course things will be 'boring.' When this mindset is applied to a film like this, these people will ignorantly declare that 'there's no other story line' because they were unwilling and unable to look any deeper.


Even if you refuse to take into consideration that this film has layers of meaning, e.g. that is uses Plato's Allegory of the Cave, at least think about its historical context. Think about 1971 and how topical this film really was. I can assure you that the social commentary isn't boring using this lens, and it wasn't that far from reality; the fact that this film can be still be relatable by today's standards is pretty amazing.

And as far as people not liking this movie when it was released, again you have understand the history of what was happening during its release. The hippies/revolutions/Zeitgeists/etc were coming to an end. The people who would have likely embraced the film and its messages were abandoning their stations, and literally growing up; they didn't want the cultural associations anymore. Charles Manson destroyed whatever remaining peace and love that was left with his murderous cult, and everything basically went mainstream. It's no wonder why this film wasn't a success—it reflected the many realities of the time too well. And in 1977 the studio tried to re-release it because of Lucas' success with Star Wars; however, once again the movie failed because nobody cared about some bleak, depressing film about the future. They'd rather see lightsabers and wookies.

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I remember when I rented it, I was interested in seeing it because I like some of Lucas' other works and was interested in seeing something different from him.

But when I was watching it, I felt the same thing you did. I couldn't wait for it to be over. IT was painfully boring. It just wasn't an interesting story.

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It's always fascinating to hear that people are bored by certain films, yet rave about others; e.g. this person Kuato_and_George who is entertained by movies like "The Butler" and "Zombieland." Both of these are INCREDIBLY interesting stories...

Oh, and here are some tips for those who think they can actually "review" movies. Come up with your own shtick, i.e. don't depend on using the "thumbs up/thumbs down" method and then mask it with some lame "she said/he said" adage. Second, don't spam your site in every comment you make here—no one cares to see your advertising, especially when it's showcasing a poorly made website with little content. Lastly, if you are like Kuato_and_George, you are exactly the type of person who SHOULD NOT be publishing reviews: you are too narrow-minded, you generally stick to reviewing safe/trendy movies/tv shows which there already is an abundant amount to pick from, and your knowledge of cinema is extremely limited. Again, boring people are often bored; Kuato_and_George is prime example of this.

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