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Why is this film not a Cult Classic?


I saw this for the 1st time recently and was blown away by its outrageousness and dark humor. Theres something in it to offend everyone but its so over the top I dont know how anyone could really be offended. Once you watch the documentary about the making of it on the DVD you will be even more impressed with it. Yet, it has an extremely low rating on here (3.8). Why? This film screams Cult Classic, yet in all my years watching films I'd never even heard of it. I understand its failure upon release, it was way ahead of its time, but after 30+ years isnt it time to re-examine this and give it its due?

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I think it actually is a cult classic.

I call movies that are considered 'bad' hated movies.

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I've always loved MYRA BRECKINRIDGE. Not only is it hilarious but it's nice to listen to. Good music, snappy dialogue. It has so much going for it.

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I'm watching it now, and although it is definitely eclectic and would only interest a relatively small audience, it's not nearly the dog of a movie I've heard so much about. It could only ever BE a cult film, IMO, but I think it was made before "cult films" as such, had really become a trend.

I'm sure many were turned off by the frank sexuality and such, back in the day, but by today's standards it's quite tame. It seems to be an indictment of Hollywood, and while it doesn't entirely succeed in that capacity, it's surreal and fascinating enough to at least watch once.

Ironically, I only sought it out for 2 reasons, Raquel Welch, and the fact that it's listed on so many "Worst Movie" lists. It's certainly offbeat, but worth a look.

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Years ago I owned the Magnetic Video Corporation VHS tape of 'MYRA BRECKINRIDGE' (Magnetic released it in 1981) and after watching the film I decided right away to sell it (which I was able to do).

>>> My problem with the movie wasn't the actual movie, but with all those extraneous film clips of other movies popping up throughout. That drove me nuts. Made me so damn irritated I knew I'd never watch the movie again.

I'd have kept the old Mag. video if the movie hadn't been deluged with all those un-related film clips.



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I'm with the OP. I just saw this for the first time, and absolutely LOVED it.

It's campy as hell, but it revels in it. John Huaton is hillarious with his dead-pan delivery.

Mae West? How can you not love that?

Raquel's role was the weakest, as some of her scenes dragged. - but she also had some great ones.

I gave this a solid "9" and meant it.

InvasionofPALS is right, though. The bizarre interjection of old film clips didn't work at all. Someone should edit them out, and do a re-release.

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Just finished watching it and I just LOVE it, included the clips that others hate. I found them to be jokes within jokes within jokes. I read the book a thousand years ago and loved it too and was disappointed to find that Vidal (whom I admire greatly for his 'take no prisoners' truth-telling) disavowed the final product - but I think it may have something to do with his having been replaced in its screen-writing duties. Viewing it now seems that it is healthily straightforward about everyone's sexual proclivities - as well as their pettinesses and mean spiritedness much more so than in today's climate. As a nation this country has retreated into fear, vacuous religiosity and an idiotic flag-waving justification of all things "American" including never-ending wars and constantly killing masses of people in defense of alleged and ubiquitous terrorism. What horse poop! It's no wonder the majority of people hate this movie - it's about (dare I say it?) S-E-X, and (perish the thought!)with a strong woman character in the lead who holds up a mirror to stupidity and hypocrisy in Hollywood which is just a microcosm of this entire country. It is time for us to grow up and become functioning adults who have just a little time left to put things right on this planet.

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Well said, tpaigeba .

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Thank you.

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tpaigeba - your post is worse than the movie.

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Put me in the camp of those impressed by the classic footage interspersed. I think it's tasteless, near sacrilege to give those films sexual undertones in context to the actual movie, but it's also genius. It lambastes classic Hollywood, but also seems to love it (Myra is obviously a film buff). It's just impressive how you can sexualize any classic movie line or scene simply by juxtaposing it to a sexually-charged scene.

Anyways, I think it does have a cult following. Just not as famous as The Room, Rocky Horror, or Plan 9, etc.

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Because it's a piece of s#*t.

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It is not just that it is a piece of sh*t but one that people had higher expectations for and the disappointment kills the so called cult classic grouping. It is plain mean, to Hollywood, to the actors who worked the film, and to the author. One needs a microscope to see any actual humor in it. Only a sadist would suggest this as worth viewing.

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Possibly because it's just plain bad and an embarrassment for all concerned, especially Mae West and John Huston (and West is, sadly, just plain embarrassing) - no one, least of all director Sarne, would stand up to her and tell her what a fool she was making of herself. I doubt they even thought she'd make the film, just approached her for the publicity that would have resulted when she turned them down. Instead. . .

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I think a lot of the criticism is because the professional critics of the day were from a prior generation, and perhaps not quite ready to accept the subject matter in a mainstream film. The film still contains some shock value more than 40 years later, to the viewer who hasn't been exposed to pornography, and still embraces traditional sexual values. In fact, given that Hollywood has receded from much of the cutting edge sexual themes present in mainstream films of that era, I have my doubts that Myra Breckinridge could play in the multiplexes today.

Part of the problem with the film's low regard, is that it went into seclusion for more than 30 years. There were no video players. That market didn't exist, and cable movie channels were more than a decade away. After the run at the theatres, the only venue was the three broadcast networks. Myra Breckinridge had dialog of such an all encompassing, risque nature, that it made editing for broadcast television impossible. The film wasn't conducive to editing like other films of the day. Which usually consisted of cutting a couple of nude scenes, and either cutting or dubbing profanity.

In effect, the original negative reviews were etched in stone, and the film was never considered worthy of video release until decades later.

I was 17 years old when Myra Breckinridge was originally shown in theatres. There were few, in any, multiplexes at the time, and most films didn't play much longer than a week. Myra Breckinridge came and went. Preceding the premier, the TV talk shows were awash with appearances by Raquel Welch and Rex Reed. Most of the discussion was of a general nature, as to avoid the network censors. Stand-up comedians would work jokes about the film into their routines. Again, keeping the subject vague, as to avoid the network censors. At the end of the day, the prospective audience was left with the thought that: The film was about sex, and Raquel Welch was in it. Many men went into the theatre expecting to see Welch nude and came away disappointed. Other viewers, who had likely never as much as looked inside a Playboy magazine, left the theatre offended. Regardless of their expectation, both demographics of early viewers spread the word of disappointment rapidly, and the film disappeared in short order.

I was one who never made it to the theatre. In fact, I saw the film for the first time last night on an offbeat streaming site, 43 years after the fact. It was much better than I expected. The interspersing of old Hollywood musicals was well done. With the dialog between the characters and the bygone actors very timely and funny. I would've never guessed Mae West was 76 years old. Her performance is a riot, basically doing what West had done in her youth. She has to be the coolest woman born in the 19th century.

The film has a certain ambience that relates to the films of Mel Brooks, and later Michael Myers. I found it no sillier or worse than the films of those two directors, that are generally held in a higher regard.

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Because you have to draw the line somewhere.

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