Jenny and swearing


It was 1970-everything and everybody was "progressive". Women's lib, the whole bit. Her character was just progressive in this way.

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It would've been a better movie without all the swearing and feminist stuff thrown in. To me, it took away from the emotional impact of the film and made it something unlikable in a way.

It's funny that I see a lot of women complaining about the swearing on this board though, saying that it is unrealistic when two people love each other, and blaming the men involved in the movie for the bad portrayal of women. It's a really low blow to blame the men who were involved in the making of the film for the way Allie McGraw talks in the movie, as though it were some male-motivated attack on women.

The fact is, women can deny it all they want to – but that wave of feminism started in the late 60s gave way to a crudeness that women hadn't really displayed, at least not in the open, before. And I will never say that it was a good thing. It may have been liberating for them, but it also damaged people's personalities in a lot of ways too.

Moreover, when I read a woman from today complaining about the way Jenny was portrayed as being unrealistic and blaming it on the men behind the movie, I think they must be in denial of how a large segment of today's population talks. I know of several girls/women who regularly cuss and spew out foul language in regular conversation. They will even talk to each other that way – they will even call their best friends four letter words, just for fun. The same way Jenny did in the movie.

So, women can complain about her all they want to, but she was actually a very realistic portrayal of a large segment of the "progressive women" population, which is very unfortunate. It's ironic that they don't like their own Frankenstein monster they created though. The character of Jenny is their own creation, not really the men behind the movie.

But yes, it would've been much better and much more romantic without that kind of language and attitude.

Please excuse typos/funny wording; I use speech-recognition that doesn't always recognize!

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The irony is that at the beginning of the film, Jenny chides Oliver for profanities.

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She even told one of her students not to *beep* her. She was completely inappropriate and out of line.

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Was this in the book, I don't recall her cussing at the kid in the film. But then again, I have not seen the film in a long time.

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It was 1970, times were changing.

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She tells one of the kids in the choir to stop “bs’ing” her when the kid denied singing too loud and showing off. They were rehearsing in a church too which probably caused a pearl-clutching ruckus of gasps back in those days.

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Still you do not talk to a kid like that. She could gave corrected him minus cursing.

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