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Serious inquiry.....what's the big deal?


I'm not trying to be disparaging by asking this, but what is the big deal about this film? I've always seen this on lists of "Greatest Movies Ever" and Roger Ebert included it in his 100 best films. I didn't hate the film, but I was far from being overwhelmed by it. I get it, Nicholson gave a very good performance and cinematography was very good. That aside, I didn't see that there was much substance to the film. Can someone point to something I'm missing about this film?

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I don't get it either. I saw this on Comcast On-Demand in the TCM folder. I thought the movie was pointless. There is never any redemption (not that every unlikeable character needs it but you at least need something at the end) and basically through the entire movie Jack's character is being a jerk to his gorgeous sweet but naive girlfriend. The only time in the movie where something interesting happens is when they pickup the 2 female hitchhikers blabbering strange rantings about how everything is filthy, and when he goes to his family's house. But even that point everything is moving boringly along with only pulses of anything interesting happening. The only time I perked up was the hitchhiker girls part.

I don't think Jack Nicholson's acting was deserving of an Oscar award and when I heard the host say it when introducing the movie, I thought he probably just got it for other reasons like many Actors who get undeserving awards with so many movies out there. I have never been a fan of Jack Nicholson, except in "the Shining." I can't believe he has been in comedies such as the one he did with Helen Hunt where he plays another jerk. He's never funny. The guy always plays himself and comes across as some creepy jerk in every movie he plays. Even the way he acts comes off narcissistic. I think he should have stuck with horror fiction/supernatural movies and he'd have been great.

I came here curious of what this movie got for a rating assuming it would be 5.5. I'm shocked that it's rated 7.5! I can't see anyone sitting through this bore-fest. If you like to watch overrated 1970 Jack Nicholson play his usual jerk persona treating a sweet working southern girl like trash all while nothing much else is happening, then this is the movie for you. If not, skip this one. That's my review.

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No, Jack Nicholson doesn't play his "usual jerk persona". Five Easy Pieces was his first lead part in his career and even after his star-making turn in Easy Rider, few could have guessed he had that range in him. Bob Rafelson and Carol Eastman, the screenwriter, knew him well and more or less created the template for most of his next parts.

Nicholson's character might act like a jerk but the point of the whole movie is to understand why he does and why he's unable to behave in another way. He's not bad in essence. You slowly realize he had some trauma due to his family. His father was more than likely obsessed by music and excellence (Nicholson's name is Robert Eroica, as a tribute to Beethoven). He learnt the piano as a kid. He was very talented, maybe the most talented of the siblings. But he had never asked for this kind of life and a career in music. He felt the pompous and intellectual conversations (the scenes with Carl or the evening with the guests show the mood) phony and fake. As a result, he felt isolated and basically cut all connections to his family (except his sister, who was always sympathetic to him).

He's a deeply sad and melancholic character except for the sudden outburst of humor or violence. He's unable to express any feeling as Susan Anspach tells him. The only scene in which he lets his guard down is when he speaks to his father and he acknowledges that he can speak his mind because the father is unable to talk.
As a result, he more or less deliberately screwed up his life when he left home. He took menial jobs, changed places several times. He's dating a not very smart waitress. When she or other people show him some kindness, he hurts their feelings

He's mostly attracted to Anspach because she's attractive, she dates his brother (he always makes fun of him behind his back) and because he thinks for a brief time she could bring him some kind of salvation. But actually he's still unable to understand her or to develop a genuine connection with her. And when he realizes that Karen Black is now attached to him, because she's pregnant, because they were treated as a couple by his sister, he feels that he can't spend the rest of his life with her because she's quite dumb, and because he can't really give her the kind of affection she seeks other than by lying to her. So, he leaves her just as he left his family, without warning or explanation. The final scene, when he repeats over and over "I'm fine" is him being in pain. He escaped one more time but he won't find any issue.

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@El Bacho: Thank you for your insighful review. I felt the same as the O.P., so you are really being helpful. I now more fully realize what I have been watching, although it doesn't really change my minor appreciation of this movie.

'All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing no song' - Louis Armstrong

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The IMDB doesn't have a "like" button, does it? I'd click it if it did.

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Yeah, nice read. I loved the film too.

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I liked El Bacho's evaluation more the movie!

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To make it short, this movie appeals to people who have the same alienated feeling in this world as Nicolsons character.

To us, it's like a hit in a stomach. Painful and sympathetic at the same time.

I guess someone can like it for other reasons too. :)

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The final scene, when he repeats over and over "I'm fine" is him being in pain. He escaped one more time but he won't find any issue.

Note also that he loses his coat. The truck driver's "Where we're going it's colder 'n'Hell" has a pretty clear metaphoric significance. (Even though Hell is normally considered to be rather on the warm side).

I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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Nicholson's character in this film is a dick,frankly. Yeah, I get that he's dissatisfied with his life, bu that didn't give him the right to treat everybody around him like s*** just because of that. And what he did to his girlfriend in the end was just plain selfish and cruel. I didn't one bit sorry for him because he acted like an a**hole throughout most of the film. Liked the two hitchhikers,though.

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Yes, I think that's a reasonable assessment. But the idea that the central character has to be likeable for a film to be good or enjoyable is very problematic. Most of Shakespeare would have to go in the bin if we applied that criterion.


I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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ya

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It was made in an era when movies could be like that...quiet, thoughtful, not a lot going on...and not be consigned to the arthouses. Looking back now, they're not perfect movies, these "message" movies - you could level the accusation of pretentiousness at them - but give me something that at least TRIES to say something about the human condition, about families and relationships and fails, over yer Transformers and Harry Potters.

It's true that we did sit and stroke our chins saying "Yes, yes..." as the lack of drama unfolded. We prided ourselves on enjoying movies where very little happened (My Dinner With Andre, anyone?) but don't hate us for that! Some great work, including Five Easy Pieces, came out of it.





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I just watched it after hearing good things about it. I love 70's films!! This movie just didn't appeal to me though. I'd never say "it stunk" since plenty of people love it. It just didn't connect with me. Really really slow & I don't mind the slower pace of 70's films. Maybe the setting didn't appeal to me. A few good scenes & a fine performance by Jack but just don't get the Oscar nomination. Took me 3 settings to get through it! Maybe a 2nd viewing might help someday. 4/10 for me.

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You are missing nothing. The cinematography was the best thing in this now curio, artifact relic of 1970. I was very disappointed in "5 Easy Pieces" after reading all the raves of critics of years' past.If released today it would probably go straight to DVD or cable.

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The film is regarded as a classic but I found it underwhelming.

Its that man again!!

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It's got a lot of interesting, quirky scenes. Jack is wonderful.

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It's just ' different strokes for different strokes ', man. It just wasn't the taste of you and the small number of posters on this message board. You're in the minority. I found it to be very entertaining.

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It does improve upon multiple viewings. I think part of the original appeal of the film was that it demonstrated such an in-depth multifaceted character study.

Imagine Jack Nicholson playing an outwardly confident but inwardly confused character, perfect fit.

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I appreciate the intelligent comments here. Really!! Try visiting other boards. Yikes!!

I know I'll give it a 2nd try. I remember trying to watch THE FRENCH CONNECTION in the 80's when I was in my teens. I stopped after a few minutes. Too grimy for me. Then one day I was stuck inside because of a storm & I popped it in again. I really got into it. Then I watched it again. I loved it! I'vs since owned it on VHS, DVD, & Blu Ray. One of my favorites! This film sounds like it deserves another look.

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Not everybody is a connoisseur. Most people don't have tools to evaluate what they have seen on screen. Perhaps they are cinema illiterate or they are emotionally deficient with no real life experiences to speak about.

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