Kurosawa's worst


It really is. I started to watch it and I thought: What's the idea? Retarded boy drives some invisible train and someone is dreaming about new house. Is this film about art or what? I didn't watch even half of this movie and I think it sucks. Only touching thing in this movie is that I pity the retarded boy who is so stupid.

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Kagemuscha is great, from a purely visual point of view. Though flawed, I actually prefer it to Ran. It's interesting to note that Dodesukaden was greeted with praise when released, only to quickly fade into obscurity. It hasn't held up well, and is, IMO, one of the master's worst.


Last film seen: Robert Bresson's Pickpocket - Brilliant!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053168/

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I disagree with both of you : )
I thought Kagemusha and Dodesukaden were both great.


But it did happen

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Well the short answer is that this film wasn't made for a 13 year old boy.

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I wasn't too fod of Red Beard. Kurosawa tackled poverty in Japan like many directors didn't do, albeit in his own way.

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"In 1969, four of Japan’s greatest directors, Akira Kurosawa, Kon Ichikawa, Keisuke Kinoshita and Masaki Kobayashi, formed the "Yonki-no-kai" (Four Musketeers) production company, only to see it close down after its first film was a commercial failure."

The one film that closed down this partnership was "Dodesukaden".

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jussi94 is right on the money. Kurowawa made many great films, but this was his dud. It would test the patience of Job.

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It's an alright movie. I saw it in a film class during the week we were discussing color in film. It is very vibrant in that aspect. My professor brings it into his friend and fellow professor’s art class every year and the students flip out over the visuals.

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Durang0, ure right I'm maybe too young to watch a film like Dodesukaden. Maybe I watch it sometimes from beginning to end. And about the 4 greatest directors of Japan, Ozu should be there. Orpheus_Reborn I think Kurosawa was very good in forties too. Drunken Angel is great, so is Stray Dog.

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If you're really only 13/14, you seriously need to DROP your self-importance and ego, lighten up, and watch some entertainment movies more appropriate for your age. You're in NO kind of mental place to be determining what is the best/worst of a director like Kurosawa. Why would you want to burn yourself out on film at such an early age? Who are you trying so hard to impress? Go watch some Incredibles, Finding Nemo and Monster House and actually enjoy your childhood for the short time it lasts (believe it or not, you'll miss it). Mature movies will always be there. There's no reason for you to have this attitude thinking that you're to good for movies intended for your age range...movies which exist for a reason. There's also a reason that you never hear of professional film critics your age and you never will. No one EVER comes close to peaking before they're an adult in terms of intelligence and perspective, which are things that believe it or not often make these type of movies more appreciable.

I do slightly doubt anyway if you're truly for real and I HIGHLY doubt if you actually get anything out of the movies and directors you claim to love. Probably got a little carried away with IMDB and trying to impress the smarter posters or maybe you're trying to get in with some local pseudo-intellectual high school crowd. Either way, don't expect to be taken too seriously. Especially not when you're typing out the word "you're" as "ure" (and yet want to be regarded as the intellectual equivalent of an adult. This kind of thing is usually an exposing point for adolescent "film scholars").

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"If you're really only 13/14, you seriously need to DROP your self-importance and ego, lighten up, and watch some entertainment movies more appropriate for your age."

Excuse me, when was it anyone's right to tell a thirteen or fourteen year old what they should or should not watch? I watched Hitchcock and Ford when I was ten. My mother took me to see Pulp Fiction when I was in junior high, I am now twenty-six years old and I enjoy films like Finding Nemo just as much as watching Band of Outsiders. So really, whose to say that a film by Kurosawa is only comprehendible by an adult? If anyone needs to drop the ego it would have to be you.

And by the way, anyone who puts some character to express feeling in their rant should not then complain about the grammar of others or talk about how someone could be taken seriously.

This is my opinion, just as that was his. We all have the right to them. Regardless of age.

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Hey jussi94, Im not saying you should stop watching these kind of films .. or that these films cant be enjoyed if youre too young. Some films just require more backround knowledge of the time and culture they were created in, or that they are portraying. I also found it a bit arrogant to call a film straight out bad (or worst) without even breaking it down, why it was so bad in your opinion. Hence the way I answered.

But even if you do get all the themes and ideas behind the film it still doesn't mean you have to like it. If it just fails to intrigue you then no-ones forcing you to like it just because it's Kurosawa or something ..

I personally found Dodesukaden interesting just for it's visual style and the atmosphere created by the characters.

So anyway, if you like movies, just keep watching them, don't force yourself into anything if you don't like it. Then again there's no reason not watch Kurosawa etc if you find them enjoyable.
Your taste in movies might change in time, but that doesn't mean the good experiences that you get now would be any less valuable in the future.

May you find those magical movie moments. Hehe.

cheers


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I agree. It's a much more interesting and engaging narrative than a lot of his immediate post war films. I also thought some of the visuals were outstanding as well. I'm sort've biased though, since I'm partial to the color films of japanese films from the 60s and 70s.

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