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Michael : Rich Kid or Kept Man


there's alot of mention of "everything is paid for" by harold as a retort when michael dissed him of using all those cosmetics on his face, and michael then kinda cringe after that. this is used several times throughout the the film, is that a hint that michael doesnt earn his way through life and have things handed to him - either through inheritance or patronage? and i sense a closeness between michael and harold. and especially with the gift of michael's picture with personal engravings as a gift to harold, was it a hint that michael used to live off harold at one point?

i watched the movie twice, but i suppose i'm missing something.

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It could be that he had some money at one time but more like Michael just spends conspicuously to compensate for his self esteem problems and is always living one step ahead of the bill collector.

Back in the late 60's he would have been seen as incredibly extravagant but today it almost seems like the rest of the country has caught up with Michael with so many people living off their paper equity on their homes that seemed to evaporate overnight. Micheal was probably one of the first to insist on 300 plus thread count for his bed sheets and imported foods and wine but you go to any upscale shopping mall in the U.S. that's what people were buying like there was no tomorrow.

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I think it is implied somewhere in the actual play that he's an actor, but who doesn't get many jobs.

It's obvious that he's coming from a well-off family (he went to an Ivy League college), probably upper middle-class or something like that. So he's probably used to a certain lifestyle you know? So when things didn't really come through, etc, he keeps a high standard of living (expensive food, designer clothes, *vicuna* sweaters - idk if you know the price of vicuna-...) but without necessarily having the money to back it up. However, to have that much money without having it, he would need to have great "credentials" either to get loans or to get to pay for them later (more likely) - a good family name or something is kinda likely.

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I know they get such a large volume of messages for the "big" movies that topics that are deleted usually reappear and the same or similar discussion points get made.

People at the Brokeback Mountain board at IMDB used to archive threads, some really good ones that they didn't want to see deleted.

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That's interesting that Mart Crowley based Michael on his younger self! I don't recall that being on the DVD extras, but if it's not it should've been! It help explains how Michael could continue buying everything on credit and not paying his bills without the legal system catching up with him.

If it was that easy to have nice things without money, everyone would be doing it and there'd be no poor people! But Crowley probably only lived this way for a short time, after which he became successful enough to pay those bills, and/or wised up and stopped living beyond his means. He also may have had family money to cover him at first so he didn't end up owing so much that he couldn't make good later. So, similarly, Michael's stuff not being "paid for" was probably written as a temporary condition at that moment in time, not a long term lifestyle.




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Side note: I read an interview with Mart Crowley in which he said that Natalie Wood supported him monetarily during the writing of "Boys in the Band." Robert Wagner and she later hired him as a producer on "Hart to Hart", and he was in her will.

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I interpreted it as Michael shoplifts sometimes. He also may pull the "borrowing from the store" trick, where he'd buy a sweater, or something, wear it a couple of times, then return it for credit. And yes, I get the idea he has problems paying bills sometimes.

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As specific as the film gets about it is that Michael is, for the time being, living on unemployment insurance and credit. He says to Donald, "What's so snappy about being head-over-heels in debt? The only thing smart about it is the ingenious ways I dodge the bill collectors," and remarks that "Just because I wear expensive clothes does not necessarily mean they're paid for.

He must have had employment at some time, as Donald mentions that "It takes a certain flair to squander one's unemployment check at Pavilion." But Michael is clearly reaching the end of his financial rope. During that same conversation with Donald, he refers to having "flitted from Beverly Hills to Rome to Acapulco to Amsterdam," but later on after the guests have arrived, he describes his mode of escaping reality as, "I take planes," then corrects himself: "No, I don't do that anymore. I don't have the money to do that anymore."

I never got the impression that he came from money - Ivy League education notwithstanding (scholarship, perhaps?) - given his small-town childhood in "Hot Coffee, Mississippi." Sure, there are wealthy families in small towns; I just didn't get that impression. But he clearly had money and/or income he no longer has. In short, he's a deadbeat with expensive tastes.



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I think you are spot on doghouse, and would like to elaborate just a bit. On another thread, there's mention of a "pre-quel"---an earlier play which Crowley wrote before BITB---which also features essentially the same Michael character, and he is an actor by profession.

This type of job would be consistent with Michael's income stream in BITB. I definitely get the impression his income is erratic. His tastes are very expensive, but he doesn't make a steady, adequate income to support it. He does occasionally make some money, but as soon as he gets it, it's spent. Between jobs his life is basically a shell game of dodging bill collectors, unemployment checks, with perhaps a bit of ethically questionable mooching & cheating thrown in as well.

In the dialogue, there is one subtle indication that he is an actor. When he is in the kitchen with Donald talking about Alan's decision to stop by for a drink, the litany of woes includes how Michael is going to deal with Alan's uptight "upper crust" attitude, he mentions how Alan's family is so proper, they look down on people in the theatre. I don't believe Michael would single out this occupation, unless he were part of it.

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...he mentions how Alan's family is so proper, they look down on people in the theatre. I don't believe Michael would single out this occupation, unless he were part of it.
You're right glennh; it fits. There's also Alan's mention of the time Michael spent in Hollywood - where everyone must be "terribly cheap," according to Alan. I always loved the irony of that line, coming from someone who lives and works (presumably as an attorney or political functionary or the like) in D.C.

I read that prequel many years ago - "A Breeze From The Gulf," I believe it was - but I confess little of it sticks with me, including any of Micheal's theatrical aspirations or experiences. Mostly, I remember that it closes, fittingly, with those famous last words, "I don't understand any of it...I never did," as his father dies, just as Michael had described it to Donald. I think Crowley actually wrote it after BITB.

Incidentally, may I say - having encountered them many times - I always enjoy your thoughtful and well-informed posts.


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Michael's in debt is what I interpreted - I think he's an often out of work actor (I found some of the dialogue in the beginning difficult to catch). Regarding Michael and Harold, to me it seems there is some deep affection between them, possibly romantic - I don't think it's because of some financial arrangement between them. There was definite bitterness from Harold when he said "Michael's never loved anyone", and Michael seemed hurt by that suggestion - I took that as a very personal exchange.

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Do not take Michael's camp comments too seriously. Hot Coffee Mississippi ought not be taken literally. It could be an affectionate way of describing his families views on culture, particularly pop culture. Camp was huge back then and anyone worth their salt in the gay community knew how to keep up their end of the conversation with a wry one off that was transparently a lie, but ultimately told the truth.

I do agree with others that Michael had some acting experience, just how broad or lucrative that is who knows? He answers the phone "backstage, New Moon" so he at least is comfortable playing a role. Clearly he had some source of pretty big income if we are to believe that the sweater on the floor is really vicuna. Even back then a vicuna sweater would have cost several months salary for the average worker, not to mention the Hermes scarves.

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