Mary's Apartments


I wasn't a fan of Mary's second apartment. As a set, I don't think that it had the character and charm of the first one.

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I think most would agree with you. The first apartment was one of the most original and iconic sets that's ever been on tv. And most loved.

However, it was an apartment that you would think of for a woman in her early 20s just starting out, not a mid 30s woman who was a news producer. I think the new apartment was necessary to show Mary was maturing and being a real independent woman. You can't expect a person to live in their first apartment forever.

But I do agree that the set was pretty bland. But that was probably what apartments looked like back in the 70s. The fact that she had a working fireplace and room for a 6-chair dining set was impressive, but that kitchen was pathetic.

And guests still had to go into her bedroom in order to get to the bathroom was also a pain.





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And guests still had to go into her bedroom in order to get to the bathroom was also a pain.


Since this thread popped back up, people didn't walk through her bedroom but her closet. Her bedroom was a pull out couch.

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He was talking about her second apartment. The bathroom through the closet, was in her first apartment.

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I suppose that moving from a studio apartment in a converted house to a one-bedroom-cookie-cutter box apartment in a high rise was considered a sign of success.

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It was in The Seventies!

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We're movin' on up
To the east side
To a deluxe apartment
In the sky

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Fish don't fry in the kitchen
Beans don't burn on the grill
Took a whole lotta trying
Just to get up that hill

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They did make a life-changing story about the new apartment but in reality the lady who owned the house used for the outside shots in real life got sick of the tourists and hung Impeach Nixon signs outside her home to keep away the lookers. The producers decided that perhaps Mary should move.

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The "new apartment" marked a big fat division line between MTM eras.
Pre and Post.
The original set is so friggin COZY ...... It's like narcotic cozy!

"The ENEMY of my ENEMY is my FRIEND"

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The first apartment was a studio but inside a gorgeous home. I can see why she wanted to move though, she slept on that pull out sofabed for years! Rhoda’s apartment was awful. Was there even a window to let in air? I would have had claustrophobia in that dark pink attic.

Mary’s second apartment was dingy, had a bland floor plan, and was in a typical ‘70’s swinging singles, high-rise block building. At least she got a bed and a bedroom.

Now Frasier’s building was also a high rise, but much nicer. Great view and the apartment had an interesting layout and gorgeous decor, except for his Pop’s chair. Guess Frasier had a better job and career than Mary and could afford a more high end property.

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I can understand that Mary finally wanted a bedroom instead of a pullout sofa. But the first apartment had so much charm. I loved the little table and chair arrangement next to the balcony.

The only thing I liked better in Mary's new apartment was the furniture. I really liked that white sofa and chairs. I really disliked the dreary brown sofa in her first apartment. I do not like brown.

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Maybe Mary could have taken over Rhoda’s apartment when Rhoda left, and make that into an upstairs bedroom. In any case, the producers could have chosen a cuter place than that high rise block unit. Blah, blah, blah.

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I understand the whole idea of 'the liberated woman' was a big deal back then in and of itself. And the apartment had a bohemian air. Cost of living was cheaper back then (even w inflation) and she even as a producer did make even less than women now.

But she is in Minnesota--and their temperatures--in a likely very badly heated attic?? I am looking at this and wondering how she honestly does not freeeze to death and/or get pneumonia. She does have a college education so why can't she figure out proper insulation takes priority.

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And yeah the decoration--even accounting for the generation/style changes leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the stuff looks like it is stapled together. Ick.

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