Best Foreign Picture + Best Picture - Z (1969) Discussion

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was nominated for both...don't know if there has been a movie to win both though

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I think Amelie and Life is beautiful where too in recent years.

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Amelie wasn't nominated for both Best Foreign Film and Best Picture (only for Best Foreign Film), but Life is Beautiful was. In fact, until today only those 3 movies (Z, Life is Beautiful and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) got both nominations.
NOONE won both awards, but each one got the Foreign Film award and at least one more category; Z: Film Editing, Life is Beautiful: Actor and Music Score Drama and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: Cinematography, Art Direction and Music Score.

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[–] Nat94110 18 years ago

The Emmigrants was nominated for both, but in different years.

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[–] dr_remlaw 18 years ago

LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL WON BEST ACTOR?! There really isn't any hope left for the *beep* Academy...

The doctor has spoken.

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[–] rojas_tortu 16 years ago

Amelie wasn't nominated for any of those awards... a shame...

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[–] MonkeyBoyPaladin 18 years ago

Only three movies in history have. This was the first, so you must imagine what kind of impact it would have had at the time.

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[–] Dunder_Klumpet 18 years ago

The postman also got nominated for BFP and BP.

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[–] jeffrey-waxman 18 years ago

That was to make up for the Academy's snub of Waterworld.

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[–] pfdocwilson 18 years ago

That was to make up for the Academy's snub of Waterworld.

Cute. I think the reference was to Il Postino, which was not nominated for Foreign-Language Film, though it was for Film, Director, Actor, Adapted Screenplay, and Score.

Francois Truffaut's Day for Night was nominated for Foreign Film in 1973, which it won, and Director, Supporting Actress, and Screenplay in 1974.

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[–] willemin 18 years ago

"Utvandrarna" also received a Best Foreign Film and a Best Picture nominations, but in different years.

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[–] hamrick-2 18 years ago

It kind of ruins any suspense behind the BFF category when a film is nominated in both it and Best Pic category, dont you think? Just Wondering....

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[–] MonkeyBoyPaladin 18 years ago

It kind of ruins any suspense behind the BFF category when a film is nominated in both it and Best Pic category, dont you think? Just Wondering....

Haha, good point, I guess.

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[–] cesbates 18 years ago

Actually not really since they are voted on by two different groups of people.

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[–] fernandooo7 17 years ago

Yes, it wss Cries and Whispers, but I'm not sure if it was up for BFP

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[–] miran_kor 17 years ago

"Yes, it wss Cries and Whispers, but I'm not sure if it was up for BFP"

No, Cries and Whispers wasn't nominated for BFP.

vivaLuis

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[–] rudeboy_murray 17 years ago

The most shocking ommission is probably Fanny & Alexander - so widely loved by the Academy (foreign, director, screenplay, cinematography, art direction, costumes, winning four of them), clearly better than that year's weak best picture field (only The Right Stuff came close) and yet didn't manage a best picture nod. What happened there?

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[–] miran_kor 17 years ago

"The most shocking ommission is probably Fanny & Alexander - so widely loved by the Academy (foreign, director, screenplay, cinematography, art direction, costumes, winning four of them), clearly better than that year's weak best picture field (only The Right Stuff came close) and yet didn't manage a best picture nod. What happened there?"

Probably the same thing as most of the time, Americans got scared that a 'foreign' film would snap all of them.
They can't let this happen, can they? This would be the end of Hollywood, I guess, LOL.

vivaLuis

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[–] Slurrysback 7 years ago

Haha, bad point. Most Best Foreign Film nominees hadn't been released in the U.S yet and wouldn't qualify for Best Picture yet.

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[–] ckane7 16 years ago

Everyone forgot about "Grand Illusion" back in 1937. One of the greatest movies ever made...

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[–] humdinger26 16 years ago

these are the only foreign language films nominated for Best Picture Oscar:

Grand Illusion (1938, France)
Z (1969, Algeria) *
The Emigrants (1972, Sweden)
Cries and Whispers (1973, Sweden)
The Postman (Il Postino) (1995, Italy)
Life is Beautiful (1998, Italy) *
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000, Taiwan) *
Letters from Iwo Jima (2006, Japanese)

* films nominated for Best Foreign Language Film also

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[–] ivanputs 11 years ago

And now you can add Amour, which amusingly has an actor in common with Z (Trintignant). Now that's trivia!

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[–] Kinematico 16 years ago

Indeed "Z" is one of a very selected group of movies nominated both for Best Picture and Best Foreign Picture (you have named already the other ones).

If you ask me "Z" deserved to win both awards.

I mean I do like "Mindnight Cowboy" but "Z" is even better.

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[–] HulotderSpeiler 15 years ago

plenty of them have been nominated for both. and there were a lot of Fellini films that got best director nominations. The only foreign language best picture winner was the last emperor, and it didn't win best foreign film

black and white movies were better

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[–] TheLionKingKong 15 years ago

The only foreign language best picture winner was the last emperor, and it didn't win best foreign film

"The Last Emperor" wasn't a foreign language film, it was in English. It was made in China by an Italian director, but for some reason, it's in English.

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[–] A_Fistful_of_Pennies 14 years ago

Was The Grand Illusion made before there was a best foreign language film Oscar? I'm guessing that because it was a Best Picture nominee.

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[–] Catch-52 14 years ago

Was The Grand Illusion made before there was a best foreign language film Oscar? I'm guessing that because it was a Best Picture nominee.

That's correct.

Incidentally, FWIW, the year Grand Illusion was nominated, there were 10 BP nominees.

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[–] philthegreatone-786-63058 10 years ago

also Amour got nominated for the big prize as well

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[–] Towelie_Towel (1700) 2 years ago

And Parasite won both.

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