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So the famous "walk" scene was spontaneous and improvised? Hmm...


As per trivia section:

The famous "Last Walk" was improvised by Sam Peckinpah during the shoot. Originally, the scene was to begin with the Bunch leaving the whorehouse and immediately cut to the confrontation with Mapache. Once the decision was made to lengthen the scene, many of the Mexican extras were choreographed by the assistant directors while the scene was filming.


If it was so completely spontaneous, then why do we see footage of stand-ins for Holden, Borgnine, Oates & Johnson rehearsing "The Walk" in the documentary, "The Wild Bunch: An Album in Montage"? The use of stand-ins to rehearse the scene seems to indicate it was not quite as spontaneous as we have been led to believe. If it was indeed done totally on the fly, would Peckinpah not have just had the leads do the walk without costuming 4 Mexican extras and having them do it?

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The climactic walk in THE WILD BUNCH was not "spontaneous." But in the accurate sense that the sequence was conceived, staged, performed, and filmed, despite not having appeared in the screenplay, it was improvised. (Similarly, the bunch's exit from Angel's village also had not been planned; but director, cast, and crew shot it in a single afternoon because, as Sam Peckinpah later stated, suddenly he knew the picture needed it.)

Actors in theater might improvise an entire scene onstage -- but movies and the stage are completely different crafts. Most great films are constructed not shot by shot, so much as sequence by sequence. The WILD BUNCH walk sequence was born of Peckinpah's inspiration on a Mexican movie location, but no one would seriously claim that it was "done totally on the fly" (Not in the sense that you mean.)

After envisioning that unscripted action and its potential value to the final production, Peckinpah had to convey his intentions to his crew, key personnel, and principal cast -- so that the scene could be properly lit, the action rehearsed to the director's satisfaction, then performed by cast and extras, and effectively photographed: requiring multiple angles of the bunch (viewed from ahead and from behind), and their own point of view, shot with both standard and telephoto lenses (the latter adding to some shots a dramatically brilliant sense of "crowding"). All that power was amplified in the editing stage.

So, whynotwriteme -- that footage resulted from extensive imagination, preparation, and hard work. But if, as has been asserted for decades by multiple parties involved with THE WILD BUNCH, that dynamic walk never appeared within the written script before it was filmed ... then the sequence was improvised.

Most great films deserve a more appreciative audience than they get.

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It would be interesting to see the original screenplay for The Wild Bunch.

For it seems to me that once Holden says "Let's go," and Oates says "Why not?" the four men would have to get from the whore quarters to Malpache's outpost SOMEHOW. Walking seems the only way.

Perhaps the script had the "Let's go" "Why not?" scene and then CUT TO: the Wild Bunch entering Malpache's compound and Holden's line "We want Angel.". Then it would make sense for Peckinpah to say, "No, they need to prepare more, think more, and then walk with purpose for a long time."

Anybody know where to find an original version of the script?

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So, I don't know what draft this is, but it certainly looks like the kind you'd have *before* shooting, not one compiled for publication afterward (I don't even know if they were publishing and selling them at the time).

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/The_Wild_Bunch.pdf

The pertinent section:

Pike and Dutch pull rifles or shotguns from their saddle scabbards as do Lyle and Tector, then they move up the village street.

FOUR MEN IN LINE AND THE AIR OF IMPENDING VIOLENCE IS SO STRONG around them that as they pass through the celebrating soldiers, the song and the laughter begin to die.

*Then* it cuts to the Ruined Hacienda location. So, it's not described in great detail, but it's there.

Whenever people say something was "improvised" on set, from lines of dialogue to scenes, I always get a touch suspicious that this is information being fabricated or polished up for publicity purposes. "Look how clever we were! We just were so creative on set!" I often suspect "improvised" meant, "Somebody riffed a bit at a table read or rehearsal and it was well-cemented by the time the scene came up". And when it's whole scenes? Forget it. Do you have any idea how long it takes to budget a movie shoot for time and actors and extras?

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