Jane's performance as Gloria absolutely tore at my soul. No actress has of yet matched this performance which evokes not only pity but horror.
Fonda lost b/c the movie was so depressing--also the fact that she really didn't campaign (Gig Young never stopped campaigning) and her politics just got in the way.
Fonda was phenomenal. That last scene was heartbreaking.
"Let us be crooked, but never common."
It's one of her best performances, for sure, but Smith (who didn't campaign either) was equally terrific.
shareYes, but while the Oscar voting was going on Smith was appearing on stage in LA in a hit play. Everybody I know thought that Jane was a shoo-in--and I remember picking up my local paper and the AP headline on Oscar morning was (the awards were then usually on Monday nights, "Oscars favor Fonda, Wayne".
shareJane should have won - her best performance and one of the all-time greats!
shareJane Fonda was absolutely brilliant and if this had been released a year later she would have been the obvious winner, but I still think Smith deserved it because her performance was even better, and she had a chance to do a deeper character development because the film was basically about her and the girls.
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'No actress has of yet matched this performance which evokes not only pity but horror.'
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Have you seen all actresses performances? Fonda gets "the best" title because she's Fonda. And her board.
No, but I've seen plenty--and stand by my comment. Jane lost b/c of her political activism and b/c of her image back then as a hippie rebel. Maggie Smith won NO pre Oscar awards from critics. Jane won the NYFC Award.
share'No, but I've seen plenty--and stand by my comment'
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Have you seen all the actresses nom-performances?
'Jane lost b/c of her political activism and b/c of her image back then as a hippie rebel.'
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Yet she won the NYC award as you said. So, the Academy was biased to not award her-- and biased to nominate her
'Maggie Smith won NO pre Oscar awards from critics'.
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Winner Best Actress BAFTA (Maggie Smith)
Of all that I have seen, dummy. Of course I have not seen every single performance EVERY actress has ever given--neither have you. Your subsequent remark is nonsensical, AND the BAFTAs were given out POST Oscars that year--but nice try.
shareSmith deserved it (with Golden Globe winner Patty Duke taking over Fonda's slot)
sharePatty Duke? For what?? And NO Maggie Smith did not deserve it. The reason why she won is because she had opened in a play in Los Angeles right when voting was underway--AND--of course the staid Academy wasn't quite ready for a person of Jane's politics yet.
shareSorry, you cannot cite "politics" for an Oscar win/loss. If they were that biased due to politics, she never would've been nominated. And if you need to ask Patty Duke for what? , then you need to brush up on film biography. (btw, too bad Miss Fonda cannot muster up a fraction of genuine anger/intensity that Smith and others can, being the "superior" actress she is.)
shareLOL--when I think of great film actresses the first person I think of is patty Duke--who might have given the worst performance in film history in Valley Of The Dolls. And I've got news for you dear--POLITICS has always played a part in the outcome of the Oscars. They couldn't deny Jane a nomination--but don't tell me with a straight face that Jane's then recent foray into Indian causes and anti-military causes didn't cost her the Oscar that year--because it did. And Fonda's performance as Gloria will go down in history as one of the all time greats.
shareI don't know if you being sincere or sarcastic about patty Duke, since VOTd was an isolated performance. (I think her 1 Oscar and 10 Emmy dramatic noms/ 3 wins speaks for itself.)
Well, there is no way to prove if politics was a reason, since we could make a case for every woman nominated. There was no frontrunner with the precursor awards, so we cannot use that criteria either. If Fonda nor Smith won the bulk of the precursor awards, then who did? Fonda won the NY Film Critics only. And if Fonda was politically punished, the Academy should got over it only 2 yrs later when she won for 1971.
I do see the Golden-Globe winner was Geneviève Bujold (shared with Duke)
In addition to winning NYFC, Jane also won Best Actress from Kansas City Film Critics group.
She got 2nd place from National Society of Film Critics. (my favorite critics' group)
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Jane was superb in it, as usual, and should have won the Academy Award.
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