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I like Sandy heres why...

posted 14 years ago by dustypork
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To be fair, I was drunk when I watched and typed this and maybe did not examine the film clearly. Sandy was the better prson in the film. In other posts I read that they saw Sandy as naive, and that is true becuase she is young, but I think Brodie may have been equally or more naive. This was a woman who is puhing her own ideals onto these young sucseptible students, yet even though she slept around and traveled, what more life expoerience or "prime" does that giver her over her students or in this case Sandy. Sandy just seemed much wiser and perceptive over Brodie.
feel that Brodie may have been a little reckless in her views and suggestions toward her students because she did not see them as equals.

[–] ewanfanatic88 14 years ago

i like sandy too!

jean is such a B!tch, she killed the girl with the studder, sandy was only doing what she thought was right

[–] caracallac 13 years ago

Of course the real irony here is that Sandy is able to deliver the killer blow to Jean because she is exactly like her.

[–] shoolaroon 11 years ago

It's interesting that you say that, as it occurred to me that Sandy might eventually become a Miss Jean Brodie herself. I agree about the comparison. There's a certain cold bloodedness and manipulativeness in both, although Sandy probably would never be the beauty that Jean was, especially in younger days. Sandy also seems more inherently cynical as well, with insight, as Jean accurately says. Jean has no insight as that requires objectivity - either into herself or others. I think Jean would always be caught by surprise by life, whereas Sandy would figure out how to protect herself.

[–] ronfirv 11 years ago

Sandy was cold, manipulative, brutal (psychologically) and cynical. Oh yes, that girl would always be protective of herself. Ghastly little child.

[–] MyMovieTVRomance 13 years ago

jean is such a B!tch, she killed the girl with the studder

Oh my gosh!! Why does everyone keep saying that???!!!! She DID NOT kill Mary!! Mary got herself killed! Jean didn't twist her arm and make her go off to war!! My gracious!!! Now, I know that some of you will want to argue that due to Mary's obvious vulnerability to influence, that makes Jean guilty. But, don't you understand, Jean lacked that kind of foresight---so, in that sense, she was just as innocent and foolish as Mary.

I can't begin to describe how angry the posts about Jean Brodie have made me! Let me just put it this way, I'd hate to be less than perfect around any of you people, because you completely lack empathy! The way you so readily bash poor Jean proves it!

I've read people refer to this movie as a great character study of immorality and narcissism, claiming that Jean is the perfect representation. But, that's not it at all! What this movie really is good for is for exposing the rude heartlessness of its general audience! And, let me tell you another thing---you better be glad it's only fiction, cause if it were real...well... you and so many others ought to be ashamed of yourselves! I certainly hope that you don't find yourself in a situation where people try to blame you for a horror you didn't honestly commit!

And, last but not least, there's only one true b#@ch in the movie, and that's Sandy---yes, Sandy, the slimy back-stabbing traitor! I'm not saying she should have sided with Miss Brodie or even believed in her. But, if she didn't, then the descent thing to do (since you all seem to associate her with some form of decency) would have been to privately let Miss Brodie know how she really felt. Then maybe, just maybe---turning her in would not have been necessary! Simple as that! But, no! She didn't go that route. Why?! Because "decency" was not part of her character!

Poor Miss Brodie, stuck in a world of small-minded, unromantic, vulgar, passionless, unsympathetic back-stabbers! They were the true villains of the film (and possibly the book), not her! And, I pity the majority of you, who fail to see it. With so many mistaken people in the world, no wonder it's such a mess!

"Ladies in Lavender" (2004) is my idea of heaven! And I <3 Maggie Smith in it!

[–] mit800 13 years ago

You tell `em Mary Maggreggorrrrr!!!

and then off to war with ya!!

Dorothy stop that, Mr. Ha Ha`s lookin at you!!

[–] MyMovieTVRomance 13 years ago

Hahaha! Very funny!!

I am the movies I love! (^_^)

[–] HijodelCid 11 years ago

Well, Sandy is not exactly likable: she was a bully to Mary, tells Lloyd that he is mediocre, and betrays Brodie in a very harsh way.

God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Albert Einstein)

[–] crlnrgbrght5 11 years ago

She was a sassy Thing wasn't She?

[–] Clyburn 11 years ago

I liked Sandy just fine and found her nothing like Jean. Jean was a delusional, self-aggrandizing, manipulative wackjob.

Sandy seemed very pragmatic and realistic to me.

I don't see Sandy as having betrayed Jean Brodie. She simply told the truth about her. It's nothing that Brodie shouldn't have been proud to stand up and do on her own. If her behavior was too shameful to stand up to the light, then something is legitimately wrong - and the girls should not be her trained accomplices in keeping sneaky secrets.

[–] ronfirv 11 years ago

Sandy was a cold, manipulative hypocrite of a child, pure wickedness.

[–] Fully_Loaded 11 years ago

the character Brodie made the mistake of making the girls her confidantes and sharing too much of her personal feelings and the line of respect was crossed

[–] Percivalx 10 years ago

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

"Let us be crooked, but never common."

[–] ronfirv 10 years ago

Concur, a very good point which hadn't struck me before.

[–] phillindholm 10 years ago

Sandy said, herself: ''I didn't betray you. I simply put a stop to you''. While her motives may have been suspect, take a look at her face at the end of the film. That one shot says it all. Heartbreaking.

[–] pksoze22 10 years ago

Sandy struck me as a petty and vindictive little girl. She never had the guts to say anything to Ms Brodie and just went behind her back.

[–] ronfirv 10 years ago

Very, very well said, pksoze22! You have my full support here!

[–] pksoze22 10 years ago

Thanks, I can't stand people who snitch and inform on people who were their "mentors" or "friends" and just inform on them without confronting them. It's worse in the book as she never ever tells Miss Brodie she got her fired.

[–] ronfirv 10 years ago

I agree. Read post above by luv_imdb. A very valid point there.

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