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If so many people consider this the best Bond..


..Why is it a 6.8??

When it comes to ranking James Bond movies, the 3 you usually see at the top are GoldFinger, Casino Royale or OHMSS. The former two which both have a 7.8 and 8.0. Why is OHMSS rated so low?

And don't say "IMDb ratings don't mean anything", because when hundreds of thousands of people watch a movie and then all rate it, the grade clearly counts toward the movie's legacy.

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I think the rating is a little low because many people write this one off as "the one with Lazenby" and don't watch it, or watch it with a biased point of view because it didn't star Sean Connery. I've seen all of the James Bond films and have read some of the books, including OHMSS. This isn't even a close call for me, OHMSS is the best James Bond film. It's the film that adhered the closest to the source material. Lazenby equipped himself well in the role and played the role as it was depicted in the book, tough, yet vulnerable.

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Yup I totally agree with dtyrannus429. In my opinion its easily in the Top 5 of Bond films. It is one of the closest to the actual novel, which was a good read in itself.

Lazenby got a lot of flak and blame for the movie. He was an easy scapegoat. He was sort of a newbie when it came to the big screen and somehow someone had to be responsible for OHMSS making less than the previous Bonds, thought it still made a good profit. Lazenby was adequate, not great...but not horrible as some diehard Bond fans would contend.

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Lazenby got a lot of flak and blame for the movie.
The British press went after him even before the movie opened, arguably because he wasn't English and they knew many would have trouble getting their heads around a Bond who wasn't Connery, this being the first Bond change.

Over the years I think every one has got used to Bond changes and I think it's generally regarded now that Lazenby did a pretty good job and arguably again, was unlucky not to keep carrying on with the role.

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He was not unlucky, just stupid. See, it was his decision not to do more Bond. Lazenby had a contract for 7 movies ... but he wanted something better.

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A young pretty impressionable Lazenby, was unlucky, as Roger Moore agrees, to take some bad advice from his supposedly experienced manager/agent, to give up the role and the opportunities that a 7 movie contract may have brought him.🐭

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I think the film rates higher in the eyes of Bond fans, than general film fans.

If only the ratings of Bond aficionados counted, it would likely rate higher than 6.8.



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^^ this

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As others have noted, it must be the Lazenby element. Personally, while I don't like the guy with his sub-par acting and off-puttingly smug demeanor, he's not quite that bad as to cost the film in rating.



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Many people have been brought up with the idea that this is one of the crap ones without ever actually having seen it.

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While it is not my favourite Bond movie, it is definitely one of the better entries to the franchise. Criminally underrated IMHO.

It includes one of the major additions to the mythology of any Bond movie. That of Bond marrying only to find himself grieving for his dead wife. A scene that still carries emotion on repeated viewings.

I would have liked to see George Lazenby reprise his role as James Bond, especially if they continued with the character development.


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I would have liked to see George Lazenby reprise his role as James Bond ...
Yes, same here. I think history has been kinder to him, than the British press and some critics of that era.

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The continuity errors alone drive it down let alone it not being Connery. The fact that he would try and meet Blofield face to face and he wouldn't recognize him just made no sense.

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Everyone can like what they like, but this is the Bond movie I always have to force myself to watch when it comes up in sequence in the box set. I'd be fine not watching it at all. To each their own.

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In the novels, OHMSS is Bond and Blofeld's first face-to-face meeting and was originally meant to be adapted into a film before YOLT. That probably has something to do with the continuity error.

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Why would Blofeld recognize him? In You Only Live Twice he was disguised as a Japanese man while in OHMSS he was disguised as a gay Englishman, and they only met briefly.

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Bond wasn't in disguise anymore when he met Blofeld in YOLT.

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6.8 is horrible for a film of this caliber. I rate it a 10! The main problem with this film is purely Connery. It unfortunately hangs after a Connery legacy, and to add insult to injury it gets quickly followed up by another (inferior) Connery film (as if EON was erasing it). This film is so unfairly viewed, it's criminal. Lazenby was absolutely outstanding as Bond (looks a helluva lot closer to the book version than Craig), where he combined all the ingredients of the Bond character in his performance, with humor, action, romance, emotion, etc, etc. Lazenby may not have had the natural charisma or self-shuredness of Connery, but it made his character and version of Bond so much realer. A Bond of this type wouldn't be seen again until Dalton. The film's scenery and location are perfect, as is the editing (cutting edge, at the time), and cinematography (masterful). Any real Bond fan that says they don't like this film, I'd consider their views to be pretty bogus. The film is long, and from a different era, so newer Bond fans (with the concentration level of a toddler) are gonna find it boring.

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I just finished watching it. I actually thought it was very good. I thought Lazenby did a good job. I think people weren't ready to accept not only just a different actor, but also a completely different take on the character. I was also impressed with the set design, effects, and visual and sound editing.

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"Any real Bond fan that says they don't like this film, I'd consider their views to be pretty bogus"

That's a pretty funny comment. As if anyone really gives a *beep* what your opinion of them is?

Inflated Blofeld-type ego much?

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Two words: George Lazenby.

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