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Copyright for al-Mummia


Can anyone tell me who holds the copyright to "The Night of Counting the Years?" I have two different English-subtitled copies of the film, and would like to show it for free to my Egyptology group.

Thanks!

Glenn

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Dear Talkpingp1,

We're not charging admission, no, but it's a charitable organization and we do take contributions. At any rate, no one in authority in Egypt to whom I've addressed this question has even bothered to answer it, so I'm assuming that since the director/producer is dead and the company that made the film is defunct, there is no copyright holder.

I can get you a copy. Right now I'm having my DVD cleaned up so that most DVD players in the US will play it, including those of members of my Egyptology chapter. Please send me a reminder in a couple of weeks, and I should know better when I can send you a copy.

Glenn

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Hi Glenn:

I am the professor looking for a copy. I saw the movie some years ago at the Brooklyn Museum of Art in Brooklyn New York. My recollection was they showed a print not a VHS or DVD but I could b wrong about that. At any rate, they may know who has the copyright for it. I will check with them tomorrow and see if I can find anything out for you.

John

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That's great! Thank you.

All I've been able to find are VHS and DVD copies. One of the two DVD copies is fairly good, the VHS copy is not worth the trouble. Mind you, I have the additional requirement of English subtitles. I might have turned up a print had I been looking for the original.

If you DO find a print, assuming it's in acceptable condition, it would be good to convert it to digital format.

Glenn

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Hi Glenn:

The Brooklyn Museum is remarkably unhelpful. They suggested I try Blockbuster! After 20 minutes of haggling with them on the phone they connected me to the “Egyptology Research Assistant” who of course was not at her desk. I left a message, but she is either ignoring it or isn’t in today. I will let you know when I hear more/

What is your Egyptology chapter? Are you with ARCE?


John
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Hi,

Yes, I am with ARCE. I'm the vice president of the Northern California chapter in Berkeley (Bob Bussey is the president). I also do their electronic postings, in addition to maintaining a couple of listservs about Egypt.

Thanks for the help!

Glenn

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Hi Glenn:

Did you go to the Ohio conference? I went to the one in NY last year. I live in NY. And belong to the NY chapter although I think my membership just lapsed – ooops!
I taught in the anthropology department at Brooklyn College of the City University of New York for about 40 years until the chairman and two of his minions broke into my office and threw everything in it out. The college’s response was “So what?” so I retired. I was immediately hired back as an adjunct in the film department where I have been reaching for the last 6 years. I want to do a course on the Mummy in film (and use the book The Mummy in Fact and Film as the text. Do you know it?

John

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Hi John:

No, I didn't go to the Ohio conference. I was in Korea at the time. Like you, I did go to the New York conference, which I really enjoyed. That was my seventh conference, I think, counting the one that I attended in Toronto in 1993 or 1994. I'm expecting to go to the one in Seattle next year. Are you?

Brooklyn College treated you shamefully! I hope you like things better in the film department. How did you make that transition?

No, I'm not familiar with _The Mummy in Fact and Film_. Is that the new book by Susan Cowie? Sounds like a great topic.

Glenn

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Hi Glenn:

I have been involved in performing for years although mostly stage acting. My original career was as a puppeteer! I started doing photography when I was in my teens and made a couple of small documentary films. So I used to visit with the people in the film department regularly and they all knew me. Since most of my anthropological work was in two areas American Indians and Japan, the film department approached me about teaching a course in Japanese film in the spring of 2002. I agreed and then when the event happened in anthropology with Arthur Bankoff, Bonnie Gustav and Russell Sharman doing the deed, I complained to the college administration who basically said “So what?” As a result I returned, but taught the film course as an adjunct. The people in film (both students and faculty) liked the way I did it and they just kept rehiring me. So I have no taught more courses in film then any of the three miscreants for anthro have in anthropology!

The film department at Brooklyn College is very good and has a lot of very fine and talented people in it, so it is very pleasant teaching there.

I made it to the NY conference but was rather disappointed in it. I thought the initial talk on ethnoastronomy was a disgrace. It is a topic I have taught at Brooklyn College and also ot the Hayden Planetarium of the American Museum of Natural History and en on the QM2!. I actually cut a trip[ short to Scotland by a day to get in for that lecture so I was rather “disenchanted” by it. This year I was in Japan and didn’t go. I am not sure yet about Seattle. I lived there for a while, but haven’t been there in many years so it might be nice to go back and see it again – barring volcanoes, earthquakes and tsunamis as described on our favorite disaster channels (the Learning Channel, the history Channel and the Discovery Channel)

I hope e aren’t taking up too much space on the massage board – maybe you can use my e-mail address.

John

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I have been checking again with the museum through the names listed on the web. Most people have left the museum. I have been able to track one down adn sent a note off to her. There is some chance the person who replaced her may be able to find a receipt, but the feeling is that too much time has elapsed and that the receipt for the rental may be archived already and that no one would be willing to go and try to find it. SO let us keep our fingers crossed that one of the two people I have e-mailed will remember something or be able to find the rcceipt.

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Al Momia will be showing at Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley on Saturday January 22, 2011 as part of it's Preserving World Cinema series. Maybe someone there can be helpful to you in this matter.
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Hi, maybe this message arrives too late, but in the Biblioteca alexandrina http://www.bibalex.org/English/artsmuseums/exhibitions/shadi/overview.htm there is a permanent exposition dedicated to Shadi Abdel Salam. I saw this film there (with subtitles), maybe they own the copyright.

By this time, this film is maybe available on dvd, I hope so because it's a jewel!

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Hi Glen
I have been searching high and low for a copy of the film. The director, Shadi Abdel Salam died many years ago. There is an exhibit at the fabulous Alexandria library on his life and work.

Would you consider sending me a copy and I will send you a color photocopy of the booklet "The World of Shadi Abdel Salam" which describes his work and includes some of his graphic designs for films. (sets, costumes etc).

I am an anthropologist and teach at Montgomery County Community College. I specialize in Middle East studies. I just returned from Egypt two days ago and began to search for the film. No other sources could I find.

Let me know if you are agreeable. Thanks so much, Janet Amighi

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Available at archive.org so I think this is free domain.

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Here's the film on youtube---it has no subs, unfortunately:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGkJvAGB4k


Actually, up above was just the first half of the film---the second half does have subs:



Part 2:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL-Ya6Y5yZg

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I recently came up a DVD copy, a good subtitled version.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

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Always interested in getting a better copy of that film. What would you like for a copy?

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Nothing. Just PM me an address, and maybe you'll have a chance to return the favor.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

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Just PM'd about getting a copy, if you're open to that and aren't bored to death with people bothering you. But I've been looking for a decent DVD copy literally for years. So I'd be very grateful for any help!

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First reply ever to one of my suggestions to make a copy of a film.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

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