the only pig is the filmaker
how dare this film protray our vetrans as liars
liberals are known to make films & lie so not fall into this trap
GOVERMENT SHOULD BAN PERSONAL LIFES
how dare this film protray our vetrans as liars
liberals are known to make films & lie so not fall into this trap
GOVERMENT SHOULD BAN PERSONAL LIFES
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Liberals are known to lie and not Republicans!?
UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH ...........................
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................... I love that!
Here's another Yank who likes to reduce the whole History of mankind into simple uber-moronic dicotomies like Liberal vs Conservative, Republican vs Democrat, Obama vs Bush, Atheist vs Believers and so on and on ....................
How very noble and patriotic of you to mention "Anti-Military Fools and Hippie Freaks that spat on our Brave Soldiers when they came home after Vietnam" conveniently forgetting tiny insignificant details (for you that is) like, for example, that the vast majority of those anti-Vietnam protesters, and decisively the fiercest ones came right from within the ranks of those who were militarily involved in the war, that by the late sixties, insubordination, self-wounding, verbal and physical attacks to superiors and fellow army companions were pretty much an everyday occurance.
HO YES! Platoon might be fiction but it's certainly not science-fiction as around 1/3 of those 58.000 US soldiers lost in Vietnam where actually shot by US bullets and bombs, most by mistake but a lot not so much and that's A FACT pal, so get over it. And let's not even count the wounded and scarred.
THANK GOD I'M NOT AN AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!
(Truly nothing personal guys: I love America overall, it's just that I find it much more fun watching you guys bickering at each other and the rest of the world, from the outside! You really crack me up, really!!!! Please keep coming, seriously, it's much more fun reading your stuff on the web than watching Hollywood garbage, nowadays !)
conveniently forgetting tiny insignificant details (for you that is) like, for example, that the vast majority of those anti-Vietnam protesters, and decisively the fiercest ones came right from within the ranks of those who were militarily involved in the war, that by the late sixties, insubordination, self-wounding, verbal and physical attacks to superiors and fellow army companions were pretty much an everyday occurance.
UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH ........................... []
...well what can I say, mate! You are the perfect embodiment of that virtue I love most about Americans: 100% commitment. Even though in this case is the sort of commitment that makes you sound and look like a total idiot, I truly admire your courage.
I love you Bill, seriously, hope we'll chat more in the future if you don't mind. Thanks for further enforcing my views too, all over your statements.
Now here comes a breakdown:
To say that the vast majority of Anti-Vietnam Protesters were returning soldiers is false... I do agree that many returning soldiers were protesters but not the vast majority...
There was a draft during that war and thus many Liberals were drafted, those individuals that would never have signed up for the military in the first place. That's why I hate the Draft, you always want the "cream of the crop" in the military, not the "bottom of the barrel". I was in the military and a majority of those serving in the Military are Conservative or Republican...
Also, I didn't "Conveniently" leave that fact out, as you suggested, I merely divided the population into two groups, (Patriotic and Non-patriotic)...
Just as you pointed out, just because they went to Vietnam doesn't mean they were good patriotic citizens doing what they thought was right because they could have been drafted and forced to go...
We have a current sitting Senator (John Kerry) who was an officer in Vietnam for a few months and when he came back he tossed his metals over a fence during an Awards Ceremony and did many interviews where he said that the Soldiers in Vietnam were Murderers, it should be noted that he is also a democrat, no surprise...
I stand by all my original comments and nothing you said in your comment did anything to discredit my original comments. If anything, they only further strengthened my comments by proving that the same evil element that was causing much of the trouble in Vietnam, is the same evil element that is ALWAYS causing the trouble here in the US and that's the LIBERALS
Liberals are self-centered, self-righteous and small-minded individuals and they have ruined every Great Nation in history, ultimately rotting it from the inside out.... They are currently trying to destroy the US but it won’t happen, we won’t let them… Oh, by the way, I too thank God every day that people like you are not Americans, we have far too many mindless Liberals now and we don’t need any more, Thanks you….
Sorry, Professicchio, but I really hate reading novels on the internet because it hurts my eyes but... I did get the gist of what you were saying... No big surprise, a liberal European disagreeing with a Conservative American, oh my, I hope I'm able to sleep tonight... I'm sure you made some very good points and some liberal will lap it right up, I'm sure. However, I'm fully aware of how things are in MY Country and don't really need to be told how to think, especially from someone that gets all their info from the BBC... Thanks anyway... : ) On a lighter note, Wimbledon has been pretty good this year, at least it hasn't been raining... Didn't see any streakers this year, though... : )
Bill Steward
..............what was that?
Sorry mate!
Too tired too read your complex narrative, It's hurting my eyes too!
.................... so peace then......
go back and enjoy your FOX comedy show and being a waste of oxigen, bye
..............what was that?
Sorry mate!
Too tired too read your complex narrative, It's hurting my eyes too!
.................... so peace then......
go back and enjoy your FOX comedy show and being a waste of oxigen, bye []
TENNIS!!!!!!! It's the Wimbledon final today.
....and I loathe cricket! What kind of stereotype is that.....
TENNIS!!!!!!! It's the Wimbledon final today....and I loathe cricket! What kind of stereotype is that.....
@bsteward
As a liberal (yeah, I said it), I am so sick and damn tired of Repugnuts like you spouting that tired-ass bulls*** right-wing line that liberals are responsible for EVERY damn thing that's EVER gone wrong with this country (I'm an American, BTW). Especially since it was partly the Republican's fault for letting the real estate market go unregulated (yeah, I know Clinton started the deregulation,but the Republicans could have put a halt to it, but since y'all believe in the free market with NO regulation whatsoever, THAT'S what caused the economy to tank in the first damn place back in 2008). Stop acting like Republicans couldn't have done something over the last decade to prevent this from happening---all they cared about was letting their rich friends make a killing in the market, as opposed to checking them and what they were actually doing, like ripping poor folks off with sub-prime mortgages so that they (the real estate business) could get rich as hell quick off of them, which they did.
I'm not saying that there weren't homeowners who were irresponsible and got in WAY over their heads with a mortgage they know they couldn't afford. But the mortgage companies and real estate businesses are just as cupable because they encouraged a lot of the shady practices that later wound up causing folks to lose their homes.
Another thing---we can b**** all damn day about who the hell is right or wrong, but they are a couple of things that are of more concern than whether who's Repub and who's a Democrat--we need to learn to TALK and DISCUSS our political differences WITH each other, instead of drowning each other the hell out and never listening to one damn thing the other has to say. What the hell good does THAT do when the current Republican candidates can't even lay out a decent plan to start jobs and get the economy going? No, they'd drag up some tired-ass stories about how black people should get off welfare (as if black people never work, go to school, or run their own businesses just like anybody else--that came from those idiots Gingrich and Santorum--who gives a s*** about them?) Funny how no one EVER mentions the fact that at least 37% percent of white folks are on welfare is EVER brought up, because these bastards wouldn't get any damn votes from white folks if they actually had the guts to point that out. Anyway, I'm done!
bstewerd can't be a real person, I simply don't believe this was a genuine conversation.... hey bstewerd, u out there? theres a whole reality TV series with your name on it..........actually, has Karl Pilkington got any American relatives......?
shareKerry never said any of those words: Baby Killers, rapists, torturers etc on the context spat around by the Bush administration to discredit him. Funny how a bunch of draft dodging chicken hawks like the Bush administration get more credit than a decorated veteran. Testament to the mentality of hard line republicans.
The tape that "Veterans against Kerry" plays shows Kerry at the senate hearing saying:
.... they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan........
What was omitted -- and is usually the case when you hear about this -- is the first part of that sentence which is "They told stories, at times.." Who told stories? That was in the paragraph which preceeded those comments.
quote:I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago, in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged, and many very highly decorated, veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents, but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis, with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit--the emotions in the room, and the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.
In that testimony, Kerry was not making accusations against soldiers but repeating stories that were told to him by other soldiers.
"GOVERMENT SHOULD BAN PERSONAL LIFES" (sic)
erm... that sounds like communism to me. Idiotic. Perhaps you should learn to write English?
"GOVERMENT SHOULD BAN PERSONAL LIFES"
You, mate, are an unmitigated genious that not even Orwell would have dreamed of!
Please get into politics soon..............