I grew up in the area and time where the murders in the movie take place and now live in New York City. I'm always shocked when seemingly intelligent, educated, adults believe that this was a plausible, commonplace, occurrence in the South at that (or this) time. There are many people in the North who still think that below the Mason Dixon lies a lawless, unaccountable country that none dare enter with Yankee plates.
Do your research people! All the images associated with the 2nd & 3rd Klan (burning crosses, white robes) were created by Hollywood for "Birth of a Nation"
Copy/pasted below info from article that I just happened to be reading today online. I've read dozens of articles like this as well as history books.
According to the Tuskegee Institute, between the years 1882 and 1951, 3,437 African-Americans were lynched in the United States, mostly in the heart of Dixie. Felonious assault and rape (read: corrupting "the flower of white womanhood") were the two most frequent justifications for lynch mob actions.
In 1973, a friend of mine and I drove from Portsmouth, New Hampshire to New Orleans, where he was attending Xavier University. He's black, I'm white; we were high school best friends. We were stopped by police, local and state, SEVENTEEN TIMES on that trip. Not one of those times was in NH, MA, CT NY, PA, or MD. Then we hit Virginia, then the Carolinas and Georgia (we'd planned a stop to see some girls we knew in Jacksonville, Fla, but had to forgo that after a night in jail in Norcross, GA put us behind schedule), then deeper into lovely Dixie. We weren't at any point speeding (in fact, I think we kept our speed increasingly under the limit as we became more and more fearful), we weren't carrying drugs, we didn't drink. We were stopped for, essentially, having "yankee" license plates and, in his case, adding the offense of being black. And this was '73, when things had allegedly improved (Jimmy Carter, a "progressive," was governor of GA at the time).
Of course, at least we weren't murdered like the three civil-rights workers a few years earlier (see "Mississippi Burning")by rednecks who'd bury us in a dam then be let off by an all-white jury.
Don't tell me about the poor "demonized" American South. The Easy Rider ending was, sadly, ENTIRELY plausible.
Or I could tell you about the time (also in '73) when I was getting gas in Vinita, OK while driving my Dad's '71 Cadillac (registered in his name which is similar to mine) back to Tulsa from Joplin, MO. Apparently because I had hair down to the middle of my back, one of Vinita's Finest busted me for vagrancy (I did have a purpose in being there--I was gassing up my Dad's car, remember?). I later found out that the fine for vagrancy is $96.42 which just so happened to be the amount of cash that I was booked into jail with.
Oh, well. I guess I was lucky that I wasn't riding a Harley and wearing a "Yankee Flag" on my back.
In 1972 I hitchhiked from Chicago to NYC in 2 days. Then I went down the east coast easily getting rides until I got to North Carolina. The cars went past me as they stared at my Charles Manson long hair in fear and whatever. I waited hours for rides in the south and often just started walking doing about twenty miles in a day. I was an 18 year old who had just finished high school and wanted to explore America as a vagabond. I had $300 in my pocket and often helped the people who picked me up pay for gas. In Greensboro, NC my ride dropped me off when they were turning where one interstate went into another. Cop picked me up and I spent two nights in the Greensboro jail for walking on the shoulder of the interstate highway. When I got out in the morning I took a bus back home to Chicago. A week later I hitchhiked west and had smooth sailing all the way to California. I live there today and have bad memories of the south.
The problem is not EVERYONE in the south is like the ones depicted in the movie. And southerners that are not like the ones in Easy Rider get very offended at being lumped into that category just because they're from the south. No one likes to be stereotyped!
But I can tell you with absolute certainty that in every small town in the south, you very well can be at the mercy of the opinions and whim of the local law enforcement. I have to think it's not just the south, but everywhere south of the Mason Dixon line and from east Texas to Florida - certain stereotypes still hold true, good as well as bad.
osopestoso wrote: "Northern pigs will roust you if they feel like it and kick your ass for fun, too. There are Adam Henry cops EVERYWHERE." -----------------------------------------------------
Northen cops don't just beat you up. They're also fond of sodomizing suspects with a stick.
Or shoot you 41 times (just because you're Black and you're reaching for your wallet). Then the Coroner says that the first shot was the kill shot and the other 40 bullets were redundant.
Cops, bureaucrats, public officials, Northerners, Mid-westerners, Westerners, H.O.A., & the rest of us are like Southerners are all alike in wanting to control, manipulate, judge because people are not all that different anywhere. And cops, not just southern cops, are the same everywhere. In fact they probably have or will have the capacity to read all your internet post, etc. to determine if you're OK, if you fit in & conform, so as to judge & sentence you upon coming across you.
The conditions in the south have improved quite a bit, but it is still home to some of the more close minded people in the country.
Have you forgotten the BOSTON busing crisis (1974-1988) in which both black and white people were murdered for racist reasons? Until the Civil Rights Act, there was segregation in all major USA cities, not just in the South. Don't kid yourself.
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"Do your research people! All the images associated with the 2nd & 3rd Klan (burning crosses, white robes) were created by Hollywood for "Birth of a Nation"" --------------------------------------------
Be that as it may, it is a FACT that the strongest opposition to the civil rights movement was down south, and it is in this context that Easy Rider operates. Never heard of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner have you? Ever heard of the musician who went by the stage name Johnny Rebel? Here's a hint: he wasn't the product of a northern state. Not even the midwest. Nope, good ol' Johnny Rebel (Clifford Trahan) was from the Pelican State.
Where you appear confused is in thinking that because certain people recognized that the lion's share of politically active racists were down south it necessarily means that us northerners automatically assume that all southerners are racist. Even in Easy Rider, the righteous and fun George Hanson hailed from down south, right??? Hell, even the very film you complain about perpetuating this stereotype doesn't categorically dismiss every southerner as a racist. In fact, Easy Rider did its fair share, via Jack Nicholson, of portraying southerners as far more colorful and intelligent than their northern and western counterparts.
I went to college in the south and the freshman dorm was very noisy except on the 2nd floor where the dorm mother lived. I therefore asked an Ethiopian exhange student if I could room with him and he said yes. I was then told that the last white kid to have a black roomate was met in the parking lot at night by the KKK. To me, wanting better grades and more sleep was worth it so I told them to bring it on. There was never a problem and we became great friends.
Years later, I moved to Dallas and went to the rec center to play basketball. There I met the most racist people I ever encountered - the southern black, who did not comprehend Dr. King's message and felt he was entitled to everything. I did not notice this among the blacks who played from the north or those that had been in the military. Hopefully Obama will change the feeling of entitlement and we can all live equally.
I don't like Southern accents, my ancestors fought for the union, and I have black relatives. I don't really like the South but I do agree that intolerance can be found everywhere, the South just has a wider and longer history with such things.
Rather a stupid thread, obvously, considering that the most charismatic and sympathetic character in the film was a Southerner. Also, if Billy and Wyatt's journey took them from, say, New York to Seattle rather than LA to NO, they'd have surely encountered an equal amount of hostility in the small towns in Montana or wherever, so it's not just a Southern thing.
scottythefield, you wrote: " Rather a stupid thread, obvously, considering that the most charismatic and sympathetic character in the film was a Southerner. Also, if Billy and Wyatt's journey took them from, say, New York to Seattle rather than LA to NO, they'd have surely encountered an equal amount of hostility in the small towns in Montana or wherever, so it's not just a Southern thing. "
You display your prejudice toward people living in small towns. Do you know the people living in small towns in Montana? I do. They're wonderful folks.
Many times people looking for bigotry need look no further than their mirror.
QMan000, you wrote: "I don't like Southern accents, my ancestors fought for the union, and I have black relatives. I don't really like the South but I do agree that intolerance can be found everywhere, the South just has a wider and longer history with such things."
Yes, intolerance can be found everywhere. Just read your own post.
I can assure you all that the backwoods psycho murderers in this film and films like Deliverance are nothing more than hillbilly caricatures created in the name of sensationalism.
That's not to say there aren't the same problems that every place in the world faces.
Tell that to the people down here who've had crosses lit on their front lawns. Or to the students who discovered a dead baby bear w. an Obama sign wrapped around it. Or to the people who got their tires slashed at an Obama rally. The no-hoods thing really becomes a moot point.
Racism is alive and well and I don't think it's too much of a stretch that it was even more overt 30 years ago. Small towns don't take too kindly to people who are "different". Of course you are right that this problem isn't limited to the South...but it's much less subtle here & would have been worse when this movie was made.
I am from St. Louis (possibly the most racially polarized place in the country) and whenever I have been down South (always en route to a Florida vacation) it seems to me that whites and blacks co-exist and interact more easily than they do in the north. Also couldn't help but notice that there is no shortage of attractive African-American women in the south. There is something about them, a softness I'd call it, not found in black women up here.