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What does the ending mean to YOU


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ME????
Do you want funny or serious? I'll do serious. That's the mood I'm in. It means that at some point, that is totally beyond anyones control, a big fist is going to appear in the sky and literally punch my clock. WHACK!!!
Relating to ER....Do I want to be Billy, or Wyatt, or George, or the hippies, or the rancher, or a red-neck, or a hooker, or me when that "WHACK thing" happens? Remember...if I want to be Wyatt, he said that he never wanted to be anybody else before. Totally cool with himself. (I often wonder if he was being honest there). Once I figure out who I want to be, then I'd better get bein' it. Again...Wyatt said "We blew it" and it doesn't matter what he meant by that, for certain he thought that he wasn't being real. The point of the movie was that he never got a chance to "fix it". And that's what the ending meant to me.

When all is said and done, more's been said than done.

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Maybe that the search for the American dream is a dangerous one? They lived it and ended up dead, for whatever reason(s).

As George says: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things.
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To be free, to find or live the dream or to be able to express that in any serious way seems to end up in failure or death.

Martin Luther King had a dream if I remember....


There can be no beauty without decay.

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i mean, first off. jack nicholson was AWSOME in the movie, and once...







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he died. i got so pissed off, im like "WTF, GRRRR!.......?" I mean, i think since all of them lived with a mindset to be "free", either with the help of M.J or alcohol, or any other way. But i don't get why they died at the end...erm..i might i kind of do. But it was so weird, throughout the whole film it was pretty straightforward. But the end is full of a bunch of cuts, inter slicing various images and clips of their "true selves" coming out. Wyatt having a hatred for his mother, being built up and released. Then billy who just wants to be loved in my opinion. But George...i cant really "understand" it fully. I feel like im missing something, i don't know.

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I guess we can all read it in different ways. To me, it meant that no matter if you try to leave the system behind and just do your own thing without asking favours, then society won't let you. They always catch up with you and pull you back to earth with a thud.

Just a suggestion, perhaps it was also a parallel with Vietnam. Guys who didn't want to take up arms and fight, who just wnated a quiet life, but society and the draft board wouldn't let them.


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The ending's meaning is quite simple to me. What it is basically saying is that the American Dream is a fraud because our country is no longer the land where "You are free to do what you want with yourself and your property, as long as you don't infringe upon the rights of others." America's government......and people to a certain extent were (and to this day are still) bigoted, not tolerant to those who want to live a free life, even if it is an alternative lifestyle.

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"I think it means hippies on motorbikes riding through rural Lousyana in the 60's might never make the Parish line. "

Boy, you said a mouthful there.

For me, the ending of this film says so many different things, but the most obvious is that life is a journey, with death at its end. Death is inevitable, and the fact that the ending is telegraphed to us before it happens is a reinforcement of that fact.

It's called a BRAIN. ~USE IT!

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I completely agree with you.

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It meant 2 dirty, drug selling, no bath taking hippies got shot to death.

I was happy to see them go and wondered why those 2 good old boys did not get awarded for ridding the world of that nasty liberal hippy crap!

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actually they took a nice long "bath" with the two girls.

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Wow. Great answer. [/sarcasm].
I bet you consider yourself a Xtian, too.

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It makes perfect sense why they die in the end. It's the idea that there really is no freedom in the land of the free. If you believe freedom is just living, but you live your life different or you look different from another group of people you're going to be criticized and/or ostracized. Those who decide to stray from society's norms are looked at with scorn, even today. That is why they all died in the end. It was tragic irony, yes...but one that seemed to make sense.

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It meant the end of the sixties, thats what it meant........

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I aggree it means the end of the 60's, the end of the summer of love.

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exactly it means the system wins you cant be free in america

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I see the film as a morality/cautionary tale. At the outset, Steppenwolf sings "God damn the pusher man," and that's exactly what happens at the end.

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It's like Hopper expressed in the commentary, you see the scene from above and the camera pans to the left. There you can see the road (which represents man's dominion over nature) and then you see the river (which is nature's natural road). They exist side by side. It's sort of a metaphor for the idea that we have gotten so far away from our original ideals, that we aren't really sure what our original intention was. This happened with the 60s (i.e. the drug culture went bad with the availability of hard drugs and questionable people seeking profits), with our government, with our ideas about what the "American Dream" really is or means, our concept of liberty and freedom, etc. They "blew it" by thinking they were breaking free of the system, only to realize (well at least Wyatt realized) that they were just digging deeper into the system.

It's a very philosophical movie, and as such is open to many conclusions as to the final scenes meaning. One thing is for certain, the ending is very powerful and to me (at least) conveys both a feeling of sadness and hope at the same time.

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There are obviously lots of different meanings and theories about the end, but the main thing was that freedom is not an absolute, nor a guarantee. George was just becoming free of his shackles, was a part of the redneck culture, but died by the hands of his own people because he associated with those that were different.

And, the death of the main characters was presaged throughout the movie. They died, not because they were free, but because they screwed up their Karmic lives. They sold their souls to be "free" (how were they different from the corporate Amerika that they were fighting against?). The opening song will tell you why they died, as well as the scene that goes with it. They were dealers of death and had a bad fate coming to them. It happened to be in the form of rednecks, but this can have all sorts of other implications....were the rednecks right in their assessment of longhairs? After all, the two people that they killed were the evil drug dealers that rednecks thought them to be. Not just pot smokers, but dealers of death.

Many intricacies to this movie.

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1. great idea for a topic (really)
2. i've watched it like 5 times, and only in the last 2 viewings did i really "get" some of the ideas, and the meaning of one of wyatt's last lines in the film.
3. maybe this was because i played "bob" with their smoking scenes ;)
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remember how george said he had tried to go to mardi gras a number of times and never got further than the state line? now he was on the edge of new orleans and...maybe in part because he was flirting with the teen girls in the cafe. also, we know he had tried to throw out his football helmet and his mother "retrieved" it? so we can also conclude he lived with or at least near his parents. he's also an alcoholic. the cops are nice to him, likely NOT because he is an ACLU attorney, but out of respect for his father (occupation unknown)...anyway, tho of course we hated to see him go, it was not his fate to see mardi gras. sorry, off track maybe...a great performance from nicholson!

5. the last scenes are also disjointed, maybe because they have reached their goal of mardi gras; what now? they have spun out of control...some vague idea of retiring in florida...they blew it.
6. watch it again; it's short.
7. thanks!

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they all die ...for what ..FREEDOM ....

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In the context of me and what I feel. The ending really shows that being different. Not conforming to what the majority of the population is doing can and probably always will come with baggage. I feel the ending shows like I just said that people need to be much more tolerant towards other peoples life and lifestyles. Also that no matter what race, color, creed, We all need to love one another and realize people will always have differences of opinion and differences in lifestyle. It really makes me wonder the ending that in todays lifestyle if we ever really changed much from that time in terms of our attitudes towards others.

I ask this question. Has tolerance for others changed?

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to me its an example of personal freedom thwarted by collective ignorance.

the 2 characters were no trying to impose their way of life on anyone, they were happy doing their own thing. "live and let live."

seriously: "why dont you get a haircut"?
c'mon.
its like you cant even be happy on your own, others who havent reached that happiness or peace in their lives feel threatened by others who have. the problem is that they shouldnt be.

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That humans can only evolve so far, so fast. That whole generation pushed things to the limit and inevitably crashed.

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Many people then called it a failure, but was it? It did died down, but it seems to me that all of the freedoms we enjoy today wouldn't be in place without that generations effort to change society. Weather the change was for better or worse merely depends on one's perspective. But, this is for a different post.

"What rotten sins I've got working for me. I suppose it's the wages." -Bedazzled (1967)

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Memphian, what freedoms are you talking about???? We have less freedom now than we did back then if you ask me...Just curious....

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I'm talking about basic stuff. I mean that today, you can have long hair and ride a motorcycle to Florida without getting shot for it. Evolution requires an occasional nudge (like the 60's) to keep things moving forward. There is no happy ending, only good change and bad change, in equal parts. I don't feel that we have less freedoms today, just more responsibilities. Freedom is either expensive and degrading or harsh and unique, but you can now choose honestly... without fear of a hippie ass wamping.


"What rotten sins I've got working for me. I suppose it's the wages." -Bedazzled (1967)

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OK, got ya, Thanks........

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That it's ok to kill anyone who is not part of 'normal' society.

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Repent. You never know when your death will come.

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Where is my son!?

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Well to me their journey pretty obviously represents the search for freedom. However the two of them (three at some point) have different ideas of what their goal is. Wyatt seems to be the more philosofical of the two, and I think he searches for a higher level of freedom and understanding of life, than Billy, who seems to be doing things just to feel good and free, through drugs, sex and his constant travveling without settlement. Wyatt expresses earlier at the ranch some envy towards the owner by saying "It's a nice place" and so on, (can't recall the exact lines right now) showing that he wants to settle down and have a place of his own. Billy later says that "they made it!" and seems perfectly happy (at least before he gets to think about it), but Wyatt says "No man. We blew it", meaning that he failed to levitate himself above the sinful, regretful and dull excistance he tried so hard to stray from. This happens shortly after their acidtrip, in which the true feelings and regrets are brought to the surface. This was not what he intended. The LSD was supposed to be the final test, in which they would abbandon regret and shame through a higher understanding. The bad-trip they experienced pretty much enhances their sad past. The failure is completed with the devastating ending, in which they both die. However this is not to be taken to litteral (the entire plot does not make much sence if it is taken as an actual event). They represent the Amreican dream (mostly Wyatt aka. Captain America), that crumbles under the society, because they try to stray from the norms. When Billy is shot wyatt leaves his jacket with the american flag on his chest, showing that the american dream has died.

Well just what I thought after watching the movie in school. Sorry if the message is a bit messed up, but I kept remembering stuff while I wrote it.
Btw. These are just my thoughts about how it CAN be enterpreted.

"If it can be thought, or written, it can be filmed" - Stanley Kubrick
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svenhannawald50 your are correct in my opinion

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Well, I think I took it much more literal than others and didn't dive for as deep a meaning as I ideally should have. But what I got from it was that the south is a backwards place, not open to new ideas, and young idealists like Billy, Wyatt and George, out of their element into an unfamiliar land of people, are destined for an early end. Which, in retrospect, I suppose, signifies the end of the '60s hippies counterculture, and how a backwards country is scared of going forward.

Just my thoughts, though.

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I like alot of your guys opinions and agree on most of them. But what I got from it personally is the sense of idealistic freedom that comes with being on your own and not following societies values. I think when Nicholson tells them at the campfire that people can be "dangerous" when around something they aren't used to being around, it can get ugly. I think the two main characters(I haven't seen the movie in awhile, just watched some clips to refresh my memory) represent the idealism of being your own independent person. I think it shows them as free thinkers who did their own thing, without having society dictate. And that made them dangerous. Because they werne't talkikng about being free, they were free. And I think it catches up to them. Noone wants to see others be better than them, and for those two to really live on the edge and be their own person scared others.

It shows the laziness of our culture and the whole idea that we must pay bill,sleep,reproduce and go to work everyday and live out a mediocre lifestyle. I think it's those that really live on the edge or don't believe in what the majority of people do(such as myself) can be looked as an outsider. I love the idea of the movie and although the characters died at the end, I took it as even though they died.. I think they have 'lived' more than those rednecks or the majority of people. And yes, even though Nicholsons character dies.. I think he truely was able to appreciate what freedom was, and to really live.

Freedom has it's costs;Even in our own land. But what this symbolizes is that there is people out there who still value freedom and are free.

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Nice guys finish last...
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...
Life's a bitch..
and any other worn out cliche you can think of. This movie doesn't have a point. It doesn't hold all the secrets of the universe like some make out.

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That dream of true freedom is just that - a dream. In reality, if you try to break out and be truly free, the chances are you'll crash and burn.

Maybe you'll make it, but the odds - and society at large - are against you.

In many ways, the movie serves as an epitaph to that whole 1960s dream.

"Vegetable rights and peace!"

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But in a very strange twisted way, they were free in the end. By dying they became free. The old cliche, but it's true. Like The Byrds song said 'He only wanted to be free, and in the end that's what he turned out to be". I know I maybe paraphrased.

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