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The voice in Family Guy of the Child (that you see in the commerical) is obviously stolen from this movie; in the campingstore 8 minutes into the movie the storeowner has that exact voice. So the origin explained.

[EDIT] <- This is how i mark out my edits. This post has been modified by someone else than the original poster, cut short and been r**ed by improper structuring of sentences. I would not in a thousand years be caught writing "So the origin explained.".

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No explanation is needed. It's well documented that Rex Harrison is the inspiration for Stewie's voice.

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What is said to be the truth and what is the truth does not always match, there is several reasons why one over the other might be prefered as the source, do take the time to have a look, I've specified the time exactly - will not take you more than 5-10 minutes if you know where to look.

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What is said to be the truth and what is the truth does not always match, there is several reasons why one over the other might be preferred as the source, do take the time to have a look, I've specified the time exactly - will not take you more than 5-10 minutes if you know where to look.

There's no need. You can't prefer one 'source' over another when the creator of the voice is on record saying where the inspiration comes from. Your theory is simply incorrect.

Even if I did watch it and thought it sounded similar to Stewie, as I said, it's been well documented that Stewie's voice was inspired by Rex Harrison's role in My Fair Lady.
Why should anyone believe Seth has been less than forthcoming with the inspiration of Stewie's voice & it actually comes from this Carry on Camping film instead of Rex Harrison's role in My Fair Lady?

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"There's no need. You can't prefer one 'source' over another when the creator of the voice is on record saying where the inspiration comes from. Your theory is simply incorrect."

Sure I can; as long as freedom of thought and expression isn't a priviliege for those who have extreme wealth and stifle innovation.

Before your next post, please take the time to actually look up the specified source, don't intellectually cripple yourself by saying "Even if..." and list all the reasons you are right without actually even considering the possibility to reconsiderate.
Seing as you took the time to initiate me on two seperate posts the oposite might however be true.

I did take the time to check out Rex Harrisons performance in My Fair Lady 1964 (and even though it is an old classic I haven't seen in a long while, that does not make me diregard my own deduction, especially in such a clear case).

As said; I do not know the reason, so speculation into it is irrelevant.
I'm however willing to delude myself onto these unknown waters as it is common practise for debaters who do not wish to achieve anything other than to blow up their own ego (luring someone to start debating something unknown rather than argueing the point in a race to achieve further knowledge).
Not only is this though a missinterpretation of skepticism but it also removes all traces of need for original thought by that person (as s/he can intellectually blackmail the other person to educate and amass more and more evidence for something the part should be actively finding itself), either way removing myself from the folly of skepticism and moving back into the depts of pessimism i can still amuse myself doing so, knowing fully well why this is being brought up - dont fool yourself that I will do it more than once though.

It could be everything from an old feud to some kind of infringement in/from everything as common practise within/between the guilds to unknown contract for some obscure reason or purpose.

[EDIT] From an egotistical rationale it could simply be to put others off a certain type of movies which contain possible voices for future projects. Or to put more credibility in his own skill to create voices and thus improve odds to get more work.

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If Seth never stated where he got Stewie's voice from, then it would be perfectly reasonable to have different people believing it came from A, B, C or D, but the bottom line is Seth has stated who inspired it. Rex Harrison, no speculation, that's it, nothing more nothing less.

You are more than welcome to have your 'freedom of thought and expression' & believe it came from somewhere other than My Fair Lady, just as you're perfectly free to believe Santa & Bigfoot are real but ultimately you're incorrect on all accounts. Simple as that.
There was a discussion some months ago that believed Stewie was based on Rik Mayall. That's also incorrect.
I came across a statement suggesting Stewie was based on Charles Wallace from A Wrinkle in Time. Also incorrect.

I did find the actor in question & while I found the 'the pole' double entendre amusing it's not enough to convince me that Seth has been lying and he formulated Stewie from this (or any other sources) instead of the one he's mentioned several times before.

It may seem like it, but I'm honestly not trying to convince you what or who is Stewie's voice model. It's not even a matter of 'I'm right & you're wrong'.
If it's your opinion this Carry on Camping actor is the genesis of Stewie's voice then so be it. I'm just hoping you understand that it's Seth MacFarlane that's right & you're wrong & your opinion is not evidence to believe otherwise.

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If you are american and think that is how things work you are wrong ( I wish you wouldn't be), in fascism you don't gain anything by helping others to improve as you do in a system where more tax sees to a redistribution to compensate individual risk (like "free" healthcare) or just something smaller as access to broadband. You compete versus others and not mainly together with others. Hobbes described it well enough. Thus your asumption to trust Seth is not a logical choice in the american context.

You asked me for a reason to why he wouldn't be forthcoming with where he got the inspiration to the voice from, I gave you several theoretical reasons - even so you infer your post with; "Seth has stated who inspired it. Rex Harrison, no speculation, that's it, nothing more nothing less. "
-You are not willing to reconsider what you believe even though a source and reasoning has been given, you simply ask for more and more until the well dries up and then you will have "won" - the thing with ignorance is that it has no true winners.

Just wishing he tells the truth is naive.

Regarding you comparing it to Santa - that was rhetorical, taking it into ad absurdum does not serve your point. Because comparing a fully rational and logical asumption to believing in santa is pretty much ad hominem and at this point it's obvious what you feel, what I'm asking for is rational thought.

If you want to lean on other examples, link and put forward precision or they're useless to me. It's not my job to carry you through your argued points.

I believe you fully that you are not trying to convince me, you are trying to convince yourself. Not changing is simple, just opening up to reconsidering something you take for truth (because Seth Mcfarlane said so and you trust him) might be hard, not doing so is as i said both naive and in the context of USA not logical. I wish it were. It would have changed the Unites States of America (and in extention the world) if citizens of USA in a larger extent took the time to instill trust and trust others more (trust will rise from accountability, top-down).

Last off I've never said I'm right and you're wrong, I've said that Seth Mcfarlane probably isn't as forthcoming as you think he is.
What I've done is to ask people to watch the source I've given and said that I believe it's the source of the voice. You are the one who hasn't even bothered with reexamining your standpoint. I've given "my" evidence, I've given reasoning - that you disregard from it is your problem not mine.

The evidence is there and you are just too lazy to check it out (how do i know this?) there simply wasn't a reaction, which there would have been. IF not feel free to now look it up (now) and walk me through the scene (tell me what happens and what they say - it's a really short scene) so I do know that you have actually done so.

I'm just hoping you understand that it's ignorance that drives you & that's wrong & your reasoning is flawed and that your opinion is not evidence to stay ignorant.


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I have no idea what relevance that first paragraph has on a discussion about the voice inspiration of a cartoon character so dial it back a notch okay.

Bottom line...
Seth stated what inspired Stewie's voice.
You disagree (with an implied biased against Seth I must add) by calling him a thief... "obviously stolen from this movie".
I saw your evidence. You seem to think I haven't. I suggest you should read the third paragraph in my last response again.
I'm sure there are a myriad of things Seth could have seen in his life when developing his ideas that he hasn't stated publicly.
Could this have been one? In the realm of all reasonable possibilities, Sure, but Seth has never said he's seen Carry on Camping and attributed it to Stewie's voice.
Your opinion that he 'stole' the characterization from this film is not proof. It is simply an opinion that I and the people on the Family Guy board disagree with.

This board is clearly not a hub of activity but perhaps some day someone will come along and agree with your assessment.

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It refers to what is logical for a rational actor within a given context, which is Hollywood. Trusting people in profession which is built partly on deception, in a time of fascism (egoism/profit over everything else) and in a given situation all point to why you should not blindly trust a person in this situation.
This is all very basic logics, in a very clear context.

Please walk me through the scene then if you have seen it and quote the very few lines. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes - this way you prove that you now actually have seen the scene. It's easy to find scripts, they're available at different places both to purchase copies and download, moviebuffs don't seldomly collects them - depicting a scene and transcribing a few lines is not that hard thing to do. In difference to you I do read what someone posts to me writes, and the ambiguity within both your language and reference makes it clear that you want it to be unclear.
I find it more likely that you did not watch the scene than that you did, no reaction is given and unless you are an astroturfer, deaf (read; suffering from hearing deprevation) or someone connected to the person in question there would be.

■ To be fair there are more than one different chain of events that could easily missconstrue this line of events; It might even be that Seth does not recall where he got the inspiration from and has afterwards quoted a role he does like or recall for some specific reason.
It might also be what you are constructing for me (a strawman) that he does think other people will call him out to be some kind of thief, this even though tons upon tons is reused material today in Hollywood. As with any other skill they evolve over time, passed on or refined without being taught - that is natural progression...


You are creating a strawman by saying I'm calling him a thief, by doing so you are putting me through defamation, "...if you canno't fault the facts fault the person".
From "my" point of view (one that I have no doubt, most hold as true) most things come from somewhere else or are built on predecessors work - that is how cummulation of knowledge/information works. Paraphrasing my meaning when it is not meant with malice but with the clear reasoning that correct information is good information, is ad hominem of the worse kind.
I do not hold some kind of personal grudge against him, I've made and am consistanly making observations, this is just one that costed me some time of writing as I do not wish to bow down to ignorance.

"Your opinion that he 'stole' the characterization from this film is not proof. It is simply an opinion that I and the people on the Family Guy board disagree with."

■ I've presented my source for anyone to see (Carry on Camping, about 8 minutes in, the campingstore clerk), I've also explained several theoretical paths of reasoning to as why Seth Mcfarlane would not be up front with it, even though that was a logical error in reasoning to do (which I pointed out before doing so to humor me and you).

You go on hearsay, it is first hand, but it is nonetheless hearsay (read; word of mouth; added to avoid semantical strawmen).

To finish it off it's enough that you speak for yourself, you don't have to borrow credibility (if that is the right word) from some other person or entity (unless you supply a source, new one i might ad), neither are it/they here to back up your claim in person (and even if they were, supplying identification and verify them would take time). Speaking on someone elses imagined behalf is not a good sign for credible statements.


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