As far as I can tell there are three versions:
The RusCiCo
The kultur with the bad dubbing
And a new one that came out in march 2007
I know the kultur one sucks because it cuts the screen off and the dubbing is horrible, but out of the RusCiCo and the new one, which one is better? Has anyone seen the new edition?
Its right here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GL18CC?tag=dvdbeaver-20&camp=15041&creative=373501&link_code=as3
The new version is full-screen, and it is not dubbed at all (just subtitled). The quality is not very good (although I haven't seen Ruscico's version, so I can't compare).
If I could do-over, I would have bought Ruscico's version. Live and learn...
Yep, the Ruscico version is the way to go but unfortunately hard to get hold of. You could also try the Korean version which is just a 1:1 copy of the Ruscico one, but I must say it is an absolute treat how they handled this 5-Disc edition quality and packaging wise, that's why I own it myself. It has the same optional English subs offcourse with original Russian audio.
shareAftifical Eye is the best version END OF
shareBut the Aftifical Eye version is just 403 min.
Is there a version out there whit all 511 min?
"Bara bip, bara bap, bara bop, bara bip." Santino Corleone.
As far as I can tell, there is no 500+ min version on DVD. Whether such a version exists at all seems to be a matter of some contention, and I am yet to meet or hear from anyone who has actually seen it and who can say what extra scenes are in it, with its extra 100 or so minutes beyond the 403 minute versions on DVD. But, I notice that the film is being shown as part of a Russian Film Festival here in Australia in a few weeks, and the promotional material says that they are showing the complete "505 minute" version. I will go along and watch it (and time it!!) with much interest, particularly to see if there really is anything extra beyond the Ruscico (403 minute) version that I have on DVD and love so much.
I'll keep you posted!! Ian
If there isn't a version of the 500+ minute one, then I'd have to go to the Russian film fest in Melbourne.
Oh well, it's gonna be a long day.
I'll be there too. I'm still intrigued to see if it really is that long!
shareI just saw a version at NYC's Film Forum - is this the same one you saw in Melbourne?:
http://www.filmforum.org/films/warandpeace.html
Adding up the times for the Film Forum showing (which I just saw), it's 411 minutes. 3 hrs 51 minutes, first half, 3 hours, second half.
shareWOW - I just concluded watching the Ruscico version early this morning! I woke up at 4am to watch this, starting from "1812" until the very end. Though I haven't seen any other DVD/video version of this, I was told that this DVD version was the one to go for and I was very happy with the overall result.
I understand that there is are Asian bootlegs of this Ruscico. Though I think my one is authentic, it says that this was "Pressed in Taiwan". Can I confirm with anyone else that has Ruscico version that there's is "Pressed in Taiwan"?
Also, I noticed in my viewing of "1812" (disc/Film 3) that there is a like a faint outline of pinkish "beginning credit" shading blinking/fading in and out frequently throughout that film (I don't know what you call that - but I am sure that it resembled the outline of one of the beginning intro credits). Does anyone else's version do the same? It was a bit irritating to see and it annoyed me a bit. Or maybe it was just the tele or DVD player that I was watching it on/from. I'm going to re-watch it again on the big home theatre tele while I'm house-sitting tonight.
I bought my set for US$60 and I was really happy paying that. It would be really neat to know what places to get this version cheap. Though I didn't personally get my copy from the following place, Russiandvd.com, it seems like a good place to get it:
http://www.russiandvd.com/store/product.asp?sku=31225&re=re
If someone knows another reputable and inexpensive place, it would be neat to know!
In regards to a longer version length, I read on wikipedia that:
"In the USSR, the film was released in 4 parts, with a total running time of 484 minutes (8 hours); a longer running time of 511 minutes is a miscalculation based on longer length of 70 mm print"
I've been made to think that the Ruscico is complete but I don't think it runs that long (403 minutes is what the box adds the film up to)... maybe that included up to half hour long intermission credits?!?!? Maybe they cut out some long end credits to each film (which I notice aren't very long) instead of mentioning all the extras involved in the ballroom and war scenes?!? (Dunno - don't take me that seriously on that one!)
I just bought a China produced 5 disc set but it don't show the time. It's wide screen and comes in 4 or 5 different languages. Quality appears good.
Anyone know which version is this ?
revi,
How about comparing ours and see whether there is any difference ? Let me know.
Now when I think of it, I understand some of the Asian bootlegs are hard to detect since artwork and stuff are so good nowadays. What did you want to compare?
Mine comes in only 3 languages: Russian, English, French. There are 14 subtitle options.
The bar code at the back of mine is: 4606777006250. Does yours have the same? My one does show the running time on the back: 140 + 93 + 78 + 92min.
The 5th (bonus) disc came in just a cardboard sleeve tucked in the set.
I also have a 'holographic' type RUSCICO official-type sticker on it that has the number:1279681 on it.
I know for a fact there was a longer version, OzTovarishch. I would be interested if the version you will have seen in the Australian Russian Film Festival has extra scenes in it that I distinctly remember seeing on English TV when the film was broadcast in 1977: more on the Rostovs, more on Nikolai and Sonya, the Nikolai/Dolokhov gambling scene, the scene where Anatole Kuragin pays court to Marya, and more, so that the story made much better sense. What I would like to know is why a version is being touted as complete when it isn't.
shareI am somewhat confused by all these posts. Will someone help me. Edward R. Hamilton, the mail order outlet from which I buy most of my DVDs, is offering the Kultur version for only $27.95. This is a lot less than I was expecting to pay for the Russian W & P, but I am not very interested if it is a "paned and scanned" version. I would rather pay a lot more and get the wide screen version. I checked it on Hamilton's web site, but it doesn't say whether it is wide screen.
My question: is the Kultur version l.33:l paned and scanned?
He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/warandpeace.htm
A no-brainer if ever there was one. An awesome, and I do not use this word lightly, film, this.
According to wikipedia, the 500+ version is based on a miscalculation from the 75mm prints, and thus does not exist, and has not ever existed.
shareafaik, artificial eye is just another version of the ruscico capture...
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63276
There exists a german dubbed version of the film and the length is 492 min (PAL), so that would make 512 min (NTSC). I would buy it but the picture quality seems to be much worse than RusCiCo. Any chance that this version is really so much longer than RusCiCo and co?
Here is a link to purchase the film:
http://www.amazon.de/Krieg-Frieden-I-IV-Sergei-Bondartschuk/dp/B000GG4NJ2/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1282172444&sr=1-3
if we never take time, how can we have time?
It now says : "Spieldauer: 405 Minuten".
shareHow about this version :
https://ozon-st.cdn.ngenix.net/multimedia/video_dvd_covers/1005907148.jpg
It is apparently restaured. is it better than the Ruscico version ?
I have the Mosfilm/Éditions Montparnasse version, which looks like Ruscico one.
No Blu-ray restauration ?