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Why did Terry kill herself?


I mean, if she knew the truth about the Castevets, sure. But she talked so good about them to Rosemary. I guess they wanted to impregnate her, she found out and then killed herself?

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It seemed that Terry was told about what the plans were. I can only assume that she was told BEFORE she was impregnated, as the baby would have shown up on the autopsy.

Ro overhears Minnie yelling at Roman "If you'd listened to me, we'd be all ready to go instead of starting over from SCRATCH! I TOLD you not to tell her, I don't you she wouldn't be open-minded!"

Whether Terry killed herself or the coven made it look like she did (Ro & Guy overhear the coven chanting, so they could have been 'summoning' a hex then).



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She was a former drug addict with severe psychological problems. The police were not disturbed by her note nor did they extensively question Minnie and Roman.

So we don't know why and never will except to make the logical conclusion that she suffered from severe Depression.

We can't take what Rosemary thought she heard through that wall. She was half asleep and did not/ could not hear clearly. The Castavets could have been talking about anyone. The reason the snippets of conversation are there is to make you jump to conclusions. Just like Rosemary.

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The movie & the book clearly state what Rosemary heard.
Both are supernatural, we as a viewer are not mean to 'read' more into it than what is provided.
For some reason, people tend to try to add their own *story* to this film (and book) and its not meant for that.
We're being a told a story, like any other movie.



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How is showing half heard conversations mixed in with dreams hearing clearly? Please explain that to me.

Levin stated the whole thing was a dream in his sequel. So there, that shows me that the first book is just as ambiguous as the film and that was the intention. So Polanski changed nothing in the adaptation.

I'm not adding ANYTHING to the story. You are by making up a narrative over a decontextualized snippet of conversation. If it even was the real conversation we don't know. BECAUSE WE SAW ROSEMARY DREAMING!

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I'm not going by the sequel, I'm acting only on the ending of the first novel.

Rosemary was not dreaming in book nor novel when she heard Minnie talking to Roman.
What she DID do was incorporate Minnie's words INTO her dream...the same way we all tend to do when we hear a TV or radio while half-awake.
In both novel & film, Ro just takes Minnie's words and incorporates them into her dream about the nun & her childhood school.

Minnie still said those words, which Ro heard:
Minnie [to Roman]: "Sometimes I wonder how come you're the leader of anything....I told you not to tell her [Terry] I told you she wouldn't be open-minded!"


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Again, she did not hear or understand what was being said while she was half asleep and half dreaming. She and We do not even know if what was being said was correct.

Look at it this way. If you were on trial and being accused of crime would you want your star supporting witness to state that they heard of your innocence from a conversation while he/she was half asleep? That witness would be LAUGHED out of the witness stand. And your lawyers would never live that down.

Terry gave a possible reason what Minnie And Roman were up to in her conversation. She thought they were swingers.

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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.


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"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree


lol That's just a smug way of saying, "I'm right and you are wrong."



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He is right. You are wrong.

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There is a difference between a trial and a film though. Film is art, and everything in the film, any shots/dialogue that appear in the film are intentionally included by the director in order to tell the story of advance the plot. It makes zero sense for the director to introduce a character, then kill the character off in the following scene if they don't serve a purpose in the film. If it was just because she was a former drug addict or depressed, then why include her at all? What does she add to the story in that case?

I understand the point you are making, but it's just not accurate

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"If it was just because she was a former drug addict or depressed, then why include her at all? What does she add to the story in that case?"

Good point, that.



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With Terry killing herself (which is always how I interpreted it) her character adds a contrast to the climax of the film; Rosemary accepting satan's child as her own.

Terry kills herself near the beginning of the film rather than bear the devil's spawn. Rosemary, at the end of the film, makes a choice to live, and raise and mother the devil's spawn.

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Terry's inclusion in the story is easy if you use your head. No matter the reason she died, it creates a foreboding atmosphere, plus it allows you to speculate about the Castavet's motives in taking such interest in Rosemary.

Stop with the "film is art" crap! That doesn't excuse nonsensicality(my made up word) but I do agree that, just because it wouldn't hold up in court, doesn't make it untrue. I do believe Terry killed herself because she was made aware of their plan and knew she'd never get away.

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Plausible doubt

By including the former drug addict, possible depressive it throws the devil story into question. Because the witness is not reliable.

Terry says the Castavets are nice people.

Terry admits to being an insensible drug addict who was picked up off the street by the Castavets.

She states that she agreed to live with them even though she thought she was wanted for some kind of threesome.

She spent the better part of the year with these people with absolutely no suspicion that they were warlocks/witches/devil worshippers. If the Castavets were that into witchery, I doubt they would spend a year without observing their rites. Plus managing to hide it all from a nosy girl who lived with them.

We never got to hear what was in the note she left, it apparently didn't strike the police as incriminating to the Castavets.

We don't know. The film never gives us enough information on her except to support that she was most likely not right in the head due to her drug usage former and maybe even current.

Plus the only supporting information we have is just a DREAM that Rosemary had.

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I disagree. You are making all kinds of assumptions about Terry that the film does not bear out. She describes herself as a starving addict when the couple took her in, and she looks healthy and in good shape when we see her. Obviously she is not drugging and starving any more, nor is she "insensible."

And hiding witchery from a "nosy girl"? There is no indication in the film that Terry is a nosy type at all. You cannot make assumptions about the plot from assumptions about the character without any evidence from the film.

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We never got to hear what was in the note she left, it apparently didn't strike the police as incriminating to the Castavets.


I always suspected the Castavets of murdering Terry. And then penning the 'suicide note' to suit them.

There's something just so disingenuous about the way they behave in the scene where they walk up to the policeman, Rosemary and Guy on the street after Terry's body has been found.

I had thought that Roman told Terry of the plans for Satan's child, she freaked out and they had to get rid of her to keep her quiet.

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Swinging is not what Minnie is referring to in the conversation. Terry only states that she thought that was what they were up to, but in time found out the couple was not like that at all. There was a sudden change, which is left ambiguous. If there was a sudden turn to swinging with Terry the target, would this young woman kill herself? Or just leave? She was healthy and clean and had options at this point. No need to kill herself. She did not appear depressed talking with Rosemary--they were making plans to get together regularly. Not what someone who is close to suicide does.

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That is so true, and you are right. She did hear them, she was just half-awake.

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Ira Levin's sequel did NOT state that the entire event was a dream! Did you even read the book!? If so....you missed quite a bit, I suggest re-reading it!

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I read the sequel, and that's the ending I remember, too.

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I just finished the (mostly awful) sequel myself. You're both right: Levin's writing, at surface level, is the classic (cheap) "she woke up, and it was all a dream" ending. There are clues, though, which suggest (very poorly) that there's something more going on here. The anagram (roast mules) is never solved in the book, but a little patience (or Google) reveals the solution to be "somersault."

Taking that into consideration along with Joe/Satan's offer to make Rosemary young again, and Andy's final reassurance that everything would be alright, one way to interpret the ending is that this is an instance where Satan has kept his word. Rosemary is young again, and by some kind of trickery on behalf of Andy's and/or Satan's powers, she awakens at a point where she has the chance to avoid disaster by *not* taking up Hutch's offer of the free year at the Dakota (the film's stand in for the fictional Bramford). Presumably they would never meet Minnie and Roman, and therefore wouldn't be available for Satan's plans. This theory suggests a single somersault: a 360 degree rotation which ends in a position just slightly forward from where one began (Rosemary is armed with the knowledge from her "dream," but will she use it?)

I've also read it suggested that this is Rosemary's personal hell/purgatory, damned to repeat the cycle over and over, like a series of somersaults.

Either way, Son of Rosemary is crap. The whole "somersault" thing is too vague to be effective, and to this reader, sinks of an author trying too hard to be deep/clever. I have enjoyed every other Levin novel/play I've read, and I think it's a shame this turd was his parting shot.

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Yea because people regularly dream about things in context of what is about to happen. I made that last part bold so you'd understand (I'm assuming from your other responses on this thread, that you're as thick as you are pompous).

Why would Rosemary be dreaming about a conversation relating to witch craft performed by this couple well before she had even the slightest inkling that they were up to some witchcraft?

Short answer: she wouldn't. She was dreaming, but it was mixed in with what she could hear through the wall. What she heard is very much in line with the narrative, and is placed there to give some sort of answer to the questions people have about Terry and her demise.


Good job idiot.

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Rosemary is a superstitious catholic girl who feels guilty about falling away from the church. The Castevets talking derisively about the Pope dredged up all that guilt.

It was HUTCH who put all that devil worship malarkey into her head. And she being a paranoid psychotic (due to the hormonal havoc her pregnancy caused her), started to see witches everywhere.

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I believe Terry was Minnie and Roman's first choice as a potential mother, and that Terry refused to be part of it. Not wanting their identities as crazy Satanists to be revealed, the coven murdered Terry, and conspired to make her death look like a suicide.


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billy51482: I believe Terry was Minnie and Roman's first choice as a potential mother, and that Terry refused to be part of it.

Yes, I agree this is the obvious answer. No idea why someone would have a problem with it (?)

billy51482: Not wanting their identities as crazy Satanists to be revealed, the coven murdered Terry, and conspired to make her death look like a suicide.

I had never really connected the Castevets directly to the death, just figuring Terry felt repulsed and betrayed, and then realized she had nowhere to go but back to the streets, so she offed herself. But now that I think of it, it is interesting that Roman and Minnie show up on the sidewalk right at the perfect time to meet Rosemary...the potential replacement.

kaskait: She was a former drug addict with severe psychological problems.

Where are we told she has 'severe psychological problems'? Roman claims she became depressed every three weeks or so....but I'd hardly consider him a trustworthy authority, as he's seemingly a habitual liar.

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"But now that I think of it, it is interesting that Roman and Minnie show up on the sidewalk right at the perfect time to meet Rosemary...the potential replacement."

Yup, and remember, when the police ask the Castevets if the suicide note is written in Terry's handwriting, Roman is quick to confirm it. He says, unequivocally, something like: "Absolutely, positively." After all, these are people who can strike their victims with spells and incantations, making their death (Hutch) or malady (Donald Baumgard) appear as a freak occurrence.

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Though also, they could have seen her jump, gone out the back door, and come back around the corner. The doorman/handyman/whoever would have covered for him...he's a member.

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Is he?

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How do you know he was a liar? Because Rosemary the psychotic says so? Rosemary didn't even know Terry except for that one conversation in the laundry room. You are going to take her word?

The man picked up a depressed drug addict off the street to live with him and you don't believe that he was telling the truth? He and his wife lived with her for almost a year. She obviously suffered from some kind of disorder. You don't become a drug addict if you are mentally healthy.

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What makes you think Rosemary is ‘psychotic’? Nothing - it’s an assumption you pulled out of your ass, meanwhile you’re in complete denial of the mountains of evidence that she is surrounded by witches 🤦🏻‍♂️

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I just rewatched the film tonight and when the Castavets walk up the police officer asks the couple if they are the Castavets and Roman responds, "Has there been an accident?" It seems too coincidental for them not to be involved.

But the film does a great job of creating ambiguity, which is part of the terrific sense of horror. Yes, they might be witches, or Rosemary might be going mad. We eventually find out she is not mad, and then we call into question everything that went before. Nice way to build that sense of unease that pervades a good thriller.

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This is exactly how I have always interpreted Terry's death. They (the coven) murdered her, and made it look like suicide. The Casrevers most likely even write the suicude note. Also the complete lack of genuine surprise, when the Castevets's saw her body splayed on the concrete.

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If they can make people go blind then I’m sure they can make people throw themselves out of windows.

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If women went psychotic as a matter of course from pregnancy hormones, it would make most sane women not get pregnant.

Rosemary is not insane. She never goes insane. She is following the clues and hints around her and listening to her gut tell her something is wrong. But if you watch carefully you see she is being gaslighted by her husband when she starts questioning the strange happenings around her. Watch the film and see how many times he contradicts her opinions, pushes her into something she is not comfortable with, and overrides her decisions, even about the doctor she will see. She is spending several months in pain and he doesn't want her to see another doctor for a second opinion--what logical choice could there be for a loving husband to be opposed to that, unless he knows something is up? Absolutely no reason at all.

And it is an interesting turning point in the film that when she stands up to Guy, the pain stops. The pain kept her from seeing her friends and the outside world, isolating her and making it easier to doubt herself. It stopped only because she was going to go to someone outside--another doctor--and had no more purpose. See how he tries to get her to not have the party because of the pain. Then he turns around and doesn't want her to see another doctor even though the pain is continuing. This stuff doesn't make sense and only serves to make Rosemary doubt herself. Gaslighting, to keep her from questioning.

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Guy also interferes with all of Rosemary's conversations with her friends at the party about the pregnancy - until one friend literally shuts the kitchen door on him to keep him away from her. He is keeping a close watch on her at all times and trying to keep her from discussing the pregnancy with anyone other than the evil doctor.

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"Why should Rosemary be dreaming about a conversation relating to witchcraft performed by this couple well before she had even the slightest inkling that they were up to some witchcraft".

Especially as the nature of the overheard conversation was so roundabout/nonspecific as to only take on meaning in hindsight - there was no overt mention of anything devilishly suspicious that could have been triggered by Hutch`s stories. While containing a reference to Terry`s potential conversion/impregnation - a Castevet`s ambition she, of course, had no knowledge of.



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You are again falling for the trick. The conversation has no meaning. We have no access to context. What we do have is Rosemary's crazy interpretations on the conversation.

She is determined to see everything as a witchcraft conspiracy and will actively IGNORE evidence to the contrary. Ignore her interpretations. WATCH the film. Really watch it...ignore what it is trying to feed you. The whole thing is a sleight of hand.

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But it IS a witch conspiracy. The proof obviously is the real baby at the end in the black crepe bassinet with all the weirdos hanging around him and worshipping him. Ya know...Hail Satan and all that crap. It's not in Rosemary's mind, it's real (in the context of the movie's world - we don't have to believe in witches or devils, but in the movie's world - they're real).

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When did you ever see the baby?

Please tell me. Because a baby was never shown in this film. Not one belonging to Rosemary.

And the film gives a BIG hint that the end may have been a psychotic delusion on Rosemary's part.

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Err, she clearly sees a baby in the crib and there a many other people in the room, all talking about it.

So WTF are you talking about?

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I never thought Terry did kill herself to be honest.

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What you think and what you are shown in the film are two different things.

Polanski was specifically playing on our subconscious and how we process information. He specifically leaves out information, includes extraneous information in order to cause large, illogical leaps of deductions that bear no resemblance to reality. We have no access to reality in this film because we are stuck inside Rosemary's psychotic mind.

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Thanks for the lecture. Again - I never thought Terry killed herself. Guess you and Polanski will just have to learn to live with the idea that someone has their own thoughts.

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You'll just have to live with the fact that there are dual story lines to this film intended by Polanski.

1) There is a devil story, it is real because psychotic Rosemary believes in it.

2) The reality layer is that the devil was her husband (who raped her) and this, paired with pre-partum psychosis, has caused Rosemary to lose her mind.

This horror film is a giant in the genre. Kubrick used many of its elements in his film The Shining (another psychotic vs reality story).

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Wow - ok. Yeah. uhm.

Anyway moving on. I never believed that Terry killed herself.

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Have you read the novel? Are you discarding it as the source material? Because the author felt it was a faithful adaptation of his work so I'm wondering if you read it at all.

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I've read the book. And it is just as slippery as the film. The book is completely inside Rosemary's sick mind and there is no way to distinguish between reality and her hallucinations.

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Horseshit, it’s all real and you either know it or you’re a fucktard troll.

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Few people understand this scene. Terry was killed by the Castavets or some of the other witches, because when the Castavets told her the plan of impregnating her with the devil....she obviously freaked out. They we're probably afraid she would tell someone, that's why they killed her and made it look like a suicide. If you watch the scene closely, and listen to the dialogue you will get it. Also, the Castavets had Terry cremated, so nobody would find out that (most likely) she had been drugged /poisoned.

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I also think the Castavets killed Terry.

Last scene, she appeared to be in very good spirits. Plus she was dealing with a coven of witches. No way they would allow her to live knowing what she probably discovered.

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Bet her spirits must have gone down a notch or two after she learned of the Castevet's ambitions... But in the end it doesn't of course matter much if she was murdered of killed herself.



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At first Terry knew nothing about the Castevetes.

First, she was drugged and impregnated with the anti-Christ.

We know this because just before the scene in which she's discovered dead, we hear chanting from the Castevets' apartment. This chanting is summoning Satan to impregnate Terry. We know this because the changing is verbatim to the chanting in Rosemary's impregnation scene. (I know because I have the soundtrack on my iPhone). Therefore Terry had been impregnated as well.

Then, Roman told her she was carrying the anti-Christ because, A, she's going to realize she's pregnant eventually, might as well get it over with, and B, they might as well get her used to the idea of who she's carrying.

We know Roman told her because we overhear Minnie scolding him over it, "I told you not to tell her in advance, I told you she wouldn't be open-minded!"

Terry didn't want to bring the anti-Christ into the world so she killed herself.

The coven did not kill her by throwing her out of a seven story window. Nor did they "brainwash" her into jumping out a seven story window. That's the kind of ludicrous *beep* that happened in the miniseries; Ira Levin and Roman Polanski are above that. If the coven wanted her dead, all they'd have to do is cast a spell, just like the did to Hutch.

Any other theory of what happened to Terry is seriously overreaching and over complicating things.

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The only one overreaching is you.

You have made a conclusion based on no evidence whatsoever.

No proof that Terry was drugged. We didn't see it in the film.

We don't know what the chanting was about or even if there was chanting. Rosemary was dreaming, therefore an unreliable witness.

We don't know that Terry had sex with a devil or old Mr. Castavet or anyone else. We don't know that she was pregnant. The film never shows proof.

You don't know that Terry was scared of giving birth to the anti-christ. You are making inferences based on tricks the film is feeding you without proof.

What do we know?

Terry is/was a drug addict.

Terry could be a manic depressive and Roman was telling the truth about that fact to the police.

The suicide note did not raise any worries among the police at all. No further investigation was made, which meant Terry's letter did not incriminate the Castavets.

Rosemary was a superstitious, paranoid psychotic filled to the brim with Hutch's witchcraft stories and looking for drama towards neighbors she did not like.

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You have made a conclusion based on no evidence whatsoever.


I've read the novel twice and seen the film countless times (and I have it on Blu-ray); I know the story inside-out, forwards and backwards. My contentions are based on deductive reasoning, not evidence. Nothing is stone-cold evident in the story (and I never said it was) and this is the post powerful, effective element of the story.

We don't know what the chanting was about or even if there was chanting. Rosemary was dreaming, therefore an unreliable witness.


She was not dreaming ("this is no dream! This is really happening!"). She was only partially conscious because she didn't eat all of her chocolate mouse (laced with sleeping powder).

You don't know that Terry was scared of giving birth to the anti-christ.


Who the hell, besides a satanist, would want to bring the anti-Christ into the world?! At the end of the novel, Minnie has some additional dialogue that is not in the film which clearly reveals that the Castevets only took Terry in to impregnate her with the Devil's spawn.

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You've read the story and the watched the film with blinders on. Both play with the satanic angle and the fact that Rosemary is insane.

Again the film gives you no proof that Terry was attacked by elderly devil worshippers. It gives no proof that Rosemary was attacked by devil worshippers. All it gives are inferences, inferences all supplied by the psychotic Rosemary who isn't thinking rationally.

There is boring, every day, rational explanation for everything that Rosemary experienced. The Director himself stated that was the case.

If you can accept the other half of the duality in the story, than the film becomes so much better.

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Rosemary is insane.


Again, overreaching. We're only meant to think the story might be a portrait of a woman's descent into madness. The ending confirms she's not.

It gives no proof that Rosemary was attacked by devil worshippers. All it gives are inferences, inferences all supplied by the psychotic Rosemary who isn't thinking rationally.


So, I guess you've never read the book and missed the last ten minutes of the film...

Now, for films told from the point of view of delusional characters, checkout "Repulsion" and "The Tenant" (both great Polanski films), and "Bug" (2007). Contrary to Rosemary's Baby, by the end of these films, the fact that the characters have gone completely insane are paranoid over nothing is doubtless.


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2140844
http://brambledoula.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/pre-partum-depression /

Late Pregnancy pre-partum psychosis leading into post partum is very real. Look it up.

The last few minutes of the film is Rosemary in full on hallucination.

Can't you see how fantastic the film is? It is leading the audience into Rosemary's twisted psyche. Getting to the point of pinpointing where reality ends and where Rosemary's paranoid psychotic fantasies begin is part of why this film is first rate and how it has influenced other horror films.

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You're so dense you’ve actually been gaslit by the characters in the film 🤣

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You've read the story and the watched the film with blinders on. Both play with the satanic angle and the fact that Rosemary is insane.
Are you this annoying and dense in real life?

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Are you this annoying and dense in real life?


I may regret posting this, but you really did make me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing.

... has some pet conspiracy theory that Ro was blighted with some chemical imbalance during + post pregnancy that made her imagine everything.


In addition to the many other obvious reasons why her theory's off the map, in 1968 no one knew about pre- or post-partum depression or psychosis, least of all Ira Levin or Polanski.

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Even though I agree with anyone who says this IS a horror film, I wanted to say that they must have known at least something about pre-partum psychosis.

Guy says to Rosemary, after she gives birth & is sipping beef broth while in bed, that she 'must have had a case of the pre-partum crazies'.
So they did know something about it. Maybe not as much as they do today, though!


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I stand corrected. As soon as I read "You must have had a case of the pre-partum crazies," I could hear Guy saying it. So yes, obviously they knew something about it, just not much and it wasn't commonly known back then.

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Are you this annoying and dense in real life?
 Agreed.

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Rosemary was a superstitious, paranoid psychotic filled to the brim with Hutch's witchcraft stories and looking for drama towards neighbors she did not like.


I disagree.

Since this is about the film and not the book, I'm only going to refer to it and it's crystal clear they are satanists and Rosemary was not a paranoid psychotic. For example, why didn't her alleged mental deficiency show up prior to meeting the Castevets? Why did she have so many "normal" friends who apparently never noticed her alleged psychotic or paranoid behaviour? In the film, Rosemary is the rational one whereas Guy is the one who acts strangely/suspiciously. The film is clear that Rosemary was impregnated by satan, but what it makes it even more chilling (as if that wasn't enough ) is the fact she DOES sound paranoid/psychotic even though she's telling the truth about it to people like Dr Hill.

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For example, why didn't...
That wacky poster has some pet conspiracy theory that Ro was blighted with some chemical imbalance during + post pregnancy that made her imagine everything.

Whatever!

Certainly it's not that standard reading of the film (or the book)...but it takes all kinds to make up this merrrrrrry world we frolic in : )

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Oh ok, I see. Thank you cookiela.

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How is it Crystal clear except in your own imagination which is being lead around by a false narrator?

The movie is on Rosemary's POV and Rosemary is insane.

Of course, Guy is acting suspicious he raped and beat his wife while she was ill.

She has no friends. They are all Guy's friends. The only one she ever meets socially is Hutch and he winds her up with crazy witch stories.

Nope, the hallucination quite clearly shows Guy attacking her before she imagines a demon face. She would rather think she was attacked by supernatural forces than face the fact that her husband doesn't love her, he in fact hates her.

The only thing we can blame Dr. Hill for is that he knew Rosemary was terrified of her husband yet he allowed Guy custody of her. She should have been put under observation since she was endangering herself and her child with her psychotic behavior.

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There is no evidence that Rosemary is insane. It's getting annoying that you're under the impression that this is all Rosemary's imagination. She was completely sane before she got pregnant. Nor did I ever get the impression that she was particularly religious or superstitious. By assuming she only became paranoid and delusional after getting pregnant and suffering from post-partem psychosis, as you claim, without any proof, why couldn't the doctor who was treating her have picked up on this? Why had she lost such an abnormal amount of weight in the early stages of pregnancy and again, the doctor was not concerned in the slightest? You insist on your theories being the hard and fast truth but you have nothing to back up your claims. Was the entire party held by the coven at the end of the movie all in her mind as well? Perhaps the Castevets didn't exist at all and she merely concocted them as well, including hers and her husband's entire relationship with them?

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Exactly, thank you. Kaskait is either trolling or is just an insufferable asshat.

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Kaskait is either trolling or is just an insufferable asshat.
Agreed

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Watch the film!

The film pointedly shows the love scene between Rosemary and Guy when they move into the apartment. Rosemary was pregnant earlier in the film than when she was attacked. So the pre-partem psychosis was already affecting her mentally.

She only saw her first doctor once and he requested another blood test from her. So perhaps he did pick up on something wrong with Rosemary but she then transferred to another obstetrician. The new doctor was full of himself as a society doctor (regardless whether he was a witch doctor Rosemary hallucinated about), so was quite lax in all procedures.

The Castavets exist. Everyone in the film exists. But whether or not they are devil worshippers are unknown due to the film being only in Rosemary's POV.

In regards to Rosemary being superstitious. You only have to go by her first nightmare about her past in a Catholic pariochial school. Not only that, she took immediate offense when Roman was dissing the Pope. So she was primed to think the worst of the Castavets.

I'm not saying there is no devil story. There is and it exists with the psychosis story. The film supports both.

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Watch the film!

The film pointedly shows the love scene between Rosemary and Guy when they move into the apartment. Rosemary was pregnant earlier in the film than when she was attacked. So the pre-partem psychosis was already affecting her mentally.



I think you need to watch the film.

That love scene took place when they first moved in, which was summer. She didn't have the baby until the following summer. She would have had to have been pregnant for a year if your theory were correct. She had the baby exactly 9 months after the attack.

Also, they made it crystal clear that Rosemary was not pregnant before the attack. Guy had even worked out what days she was likely to get pregnant based on her cycle. That wouldn't have been possible if she had already been pregnant, as there would have been no cycle.

I'm so sick of people claiming that it was all in her head. Nothing in the book or the film even hints at that. It would be the dumbest storyline ever for that to be true and for it not to be revealed at the end or even hinted at.

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The love scene in the beginning was to imply that Rosemary and Guy had a regular love life. All the baby begging as the film progresses indicates that their lovemaking was irregular or even non-existent (which isn't the case).

So it is still possible that Rosemary was already pregnant before Guy raped her (and she hallucinated this as an attack by a demon). Also don't go by the scene in which Rosemary says she has her period. Many women still spot during early pregnancy. Meaning all Rosemary's charts were most likely WRONG.

Don't take the timeline listed on this site on faith that was from the book and Polanski added in his own ideas. And he outright admitted in an interview about this film that he created the film to be a dual narrative...Rosemary is psychotic and Rosemary is persecuted by witches. The director SAYS THAT BOTH ARE INTENDED! Why ignore the Director? Because you like the horror fantasy version more?

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... she took immediate offense when Roman was dissing the Pope. So she was primed to think the worst of the Castavets.


The only proof of this is the poster's statement - there is no proof of this in the film. How do we know what she is primed for? - it is only conjecture.

I'm watching the film right now, and it seems pretty clear that the majority of commenters here are correct & everything that is happening to Rosemary is exactly what is being shown.

I think it makes for a more interesting film, than just a story about a lunatic.

Also, I think the main problem with this thread is the question itself - "why did Terry kill herself?"

We don't know that Terry did kill herself. All we really know is that she died. The real question should be, "why did Terry die?"

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I believe she had already been impregnated when the Castevets informed her about the ritual. Her suicide was likely due to her not being "open-minded" to carrying Satan's child. Remember when Guy and Roe are kissing on the bed, and the ritualistic sounds and music come through the wall? I think that was when Teri was being implanted with Satan's seed. It is ironic that when she met Rosemary in the laundry room, she said (about the Castevets), "at first I thought it was for some sex thing...". As it turns out, that is exactly what their agenda was for her!





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Yeah, I doubt she was pregnant when she died because it would've shown up, or ~something weird would have. I assume they told her to get her ready for the ritual except she freaked. Her being a depressive drug addict was relevant to the Castavets because it made her an easy target to take her off the streets, nobody looking for her (the Castavets are obviously trying to stop the police looking for anyone related to Terry before Rosemary shows up and slightly spoils matters by telling them about her brother), make her care for them and then isolate her into doing the cult's bidding.

It's definitely left up to interpretation whether she committed suicide or the cult killed her because she was going to expose them; the first time I watched it, I assumed that it was suicide, but the cult are shown to be murderous (Hutch), and it seemed a little convenient that Terry's note wouldn't mention anything of the Satanic plot. That's another bonus with her being an ex-drug addict, though, because if she tried to tell anyone about the Castavets, she would have undoubtedly been dismissed as an addled nut. Still, the Castavets "letting" her kill herself seems to leave a lot up to chance, which seems pretty unlikely.

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Who says it didn't? Maybe something did show in the autopsy, but since the movie is from Rosemary's POV, we don't get to know anything about it. Besides, if we find out about Terry's pregnancy, it might give too much of the plot away ahead of time.

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Once Rosemary moved in, they had found a better womb so Satan pushed Terry. It's my theory anyhow...

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Terry was definitely told. We hear (albeit somewhat muffled) Minnie say to Roman: In my opinion, we shouldn't tell her at all! That's my opinion!"

Terry was likely told she'd be used this way. I suspect she tried to leave, and they killed her by casting a spell.
Ro & Guy hear the chanting through the wall the day before.



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