Restored Version?


Does anyone know if there IS a restored version of this film available on DVD?

Most of the budget DVDs out there look like they were struck from the same beat-up public domain TV print -although the dollar store Double Feature DVD which pairs it with the obscure SABAKA does seem to have better quality than most.

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I'm not sure how much it costs (I'm assuming very little) but my friend bought me two dvd collections called Zombie collection and Walking Dead collection for my birthday. On the Zombie Collection one it claims to have a "Fully Restored and Enhaced Digital Masters" version of all of the movies on it. This movie is one of the 5 on it.
Considering the time between your post and mine you probibly have found a version or have forgotten about it, but none the less I thought I would tell you.

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I appreciate your post and your enthusiasm is admirable, however the words "fully restored and digitally enhanced" are essentially meaningless terms slapped onto anything that has been copied onto a dvd these days as an inducement to sucker you into buying them. Think along the terms of "natural" and "organic" or even "NEW" when applied to consumer goods.

As proof I direct you to your local dollar store or budget DVD bin where countless battered, faded, completely unrestored public domain prints, untouched in any way other than being transferred to DVD, are touted with those very words. They can get away with it because the definitions of "re-mastered" and "restored" and "enhanced" are vague and completely subjective.

I take such generic phrases with a pillar of salt, unless there is some sort of SPECIFIC documentation noted on the package such as "taken from the archival nitrate print" or "remastered from the restored YCM fine grain masters" or some similar verbage to take the claims above generic puffery.

"Re-mastered" simply means that you've made a copy from one medium to another. There does not have to be any improvement or restoration done in the process.

"Restored" simply means that something have been given back, as in a person being "restored" to life. Again no implication of improvement.

"Enhanced" is even more nebulous. Enhanced how? In what way? The packaging never tells you.

Finally, unless it's a major label, I am very suspicious of the quality of films offered in those collections. They tend to be inferior quality prints and often suffer from extreme pixilation and/or muddy sound.

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It's true that people will tout something as "new and improved" when in fact it is not. Let me throw in my two cents about the DVD version of this movie. First of all, I saw this movie many years ago, well before DVD and VHS. Here is my story. I hope you find it interesting:

After aquiring a VCR in 1985 and renting/purchasing videos, I wanted a copy of Snake People. For years, I kept an eye out for it. Eventually I accepted the fact that there simply was no available VHS copy. Even though Karloff was in it, this was not a well-known movie. Too bad...

Then around 1990 I found an obscure place that was selling it and I bought a VHS copy. There was no DVD yet. The tape quality was not terribly good, but I figured that this was the best there was, and I was grateful to have anything at all.

A few years later, I found another VHS copy of this movie, arranged in a totally different box. I decided to buy it, and discovered, to my delight, that it was a much better quality picture. What a thrill! I had gotten what I had wanted, finally.

Now after 2000, I discover there are DVD versions of this movie. I buy one, and find that it looks like it was made from the "bad" VHS copy, and not the good one. Later, I discover another version of this DVD, different packaging and all, and I buy it. To my delight (again), I see that this is taken from the "good" VHS copy.

Okay, so you now know that I have four copies of this movie: two VHS and two DVD!!

How good is the "good" DVD? Well, I will not use terms like "new", "improved", or "enhanced". I cannot say. But I can tell you that the picture is really clear, and the sound is very good. In fact, in the "bad" versions, there are times when you cannot make out a few things. Just a little fuzzy. When I got the "good" version, I was able to make out everything perfectly, and this answered a few questions of the 'what was that?' variety. I would go as far as to say that the "good" DVD could really not be improved upon. The picture is great.

My reason for dragging you through the time line is that this has happened with me for other movies. I would how common this is? In any case, there are movies that I saw in my youth that I *still* have never gotten a VHS for. That is the hardest. :-( Then, there are movies that I did eventually get, after a lot of looking, and they are washed out or otherwise of low quality. That is no doubt the best I will ever get, and so I am extremely thankful that there exists a copy at all.


John

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Thanks for the testimonial.

However, you left out some critical information that people like myself look for: On what label were the "bad" and "good" copies in both formats?

Having that info would be a great help to others.

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my friend bought me two dvd collections called Zombie collection and Walking Dead collection for my birthday. On the Zombie Collection one it claims to have a "Fully Restored and Enhaced Digital Masters" version of all of the movies on it. This movie is one of the 5 on it.


Cool gift, your friend hooked you up with some good trashy B to Z horror movies there, but those box sets were made by Diamond Entertainment which are one of those companies that specializes in buying fairly decent quality VHS copies of movies that aren't currently protected by copyright laws to make DVDs of an sell cheaply in retail outlets. Your buddy is a friend to have hooked you up with like 15 hours nonstop horror, but they are not "digitally remastered" from anything other than maybe a prior rental SP mode playback VHS.

SNAKE PEOPLE is a "lost" film in that whoever owns the original rights and presumably the elements as well is apparently completely uninterested in resurrecting it in what might be considered an archivally sensitive manner, and I believe the film has passed into the public domain since every PDM company on the planet specializing in horror films has made a point to release it at some point.

This going to sound crazy but I have seven DVD versions, all of the same edited TV print: Diamond Entertainment (backed with SCARED TO DEATH with Bela Lugosi, another perennial public domain title), Brentwood Video (from their "Killer Snakes" collection, which also has Bruno Mattei's BLACK COBRA WOMAN to recommend it), a Platinum Disc Corporation four movie "Horror Classics" collection (with CHRISTMAS EVIL and Riccardo Freda's THE GHOST to give it some gravitas), two different pressings by Family Dollar (one with the 70s sleaze classic STANLEY and another Karloff film called SABAKA that's a historical drama set in India). And I also ended up with SNAKE PEOPLE on the Mill Creek 50 movie "Chilling Classics" box set that is on a disc with more public domain regulars SISTERS OF DEATH and WAR OF THE ROBOTS. They are all universally pathetic, but if it's all you can find and the price is right (a couple of dollars) any one of them will do, since they all show identical versions of the film. There is also a DVD release by Eclectic Cinema but I won't touch it, those people are notorious commercial bootleggers.

The two DVD versions in existence that actually aren't THAT bad are one by Retromedia that actually is digitally remastered from a 16mm positive print, and then Something Weird Video's DVD of RATTLERS which features SNAKE PEOPLE and also appears to have been transferred from 16mm by SWV, who are usually pretty good about using their own prints from their libraries rather than just ripping off somebody's old VHS.

That much I can also confirm because I have one of SWVs VHS tapes of SNAKE PEOPLE which is exactly the same print though without much in the way of remastering. And I also have a British PAL tape by a company called Cineplex that has the slightly shorter version called CULT OF THE DEAD that is apparently identical to the North American "Boris Karloff Collection" VHS of the same name.

However, if there was one version I would recommend seeking out above all others it would be the vintage VHS release by Unicorn Video if only because it is very collectible and more than was the source of ALL the public domain DVDs aside from Retromedia's -- who's digital "enhancement" of the picture gives the movie a kind of odd digital haze that purists might object to -- and the Something Weird DVD RATTLERS DVD is out of print and their VHS releases are plagued by quality control issues.


The end verdict however is that it appears that the only surviving transfers of SNAKE PEOPLE for home video utilized what is probably the television censored syndicated print; even Unicorn was notorious for sourcing television prints and rumor has it that as much as 17 minutes of footage was removed between the original release in Mexico and the print that eventually turned up on television during the early 1970s. You might try finding a Spanish language version (Unicorn usually made both English and Spanish language versions of certain films, i.e. THE WITCHES MOUNTAIN and NIGHT OF THE SORCERERS) but my own personal opinion is that the original elements and/or master assembly prints are hopelessly lost, and all we have are the crummy transfers on these DVDs and various video releaes. The only saving grace is that since the film is identified as a 1:37:1 "open matte" shoot you don't have to worry about looking for a widescreen print, and aren't missing any picture information on the fullframe versions known to exist.

Except of course, the picture information on whatever segments were cut.

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There is a decent print posted on youtube.com from a commercial channel that has put a lot of b movies there. check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBNltUsdTA

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