Alan Arkin


Tell me do think he did a O.K. job as Clouseau we all know he not as great
Peter Sellers but do think he a O.K. job?

Charles

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The genius of Peter Sellers was tragicly taken from us too soon, so it's inevitable that people will have an emotional attachment to his movies, but please don't let that color your judgement of this movie.

I just get the feeling that people start watching this movie determined not to like it. I once saw a review of the movie in a TV guide which was just four words: "No Sellers, No good".

Looking at it objectively as I can, as both a Sellers and an Arkin fan, I certainly don't think it was the best Pink Panther movie, that belongs to "A Shot in the Dark", but I personally think it holds up well with the 70's Pink Panther movies, and is certainly better than any of the 80's ones.

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I totally agree. Martin and Arkin are imo both great comic actors. In their own field! They should have stayed away from the Clouseau character.

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"I just get the feeling that people start watching this movie determined not to like it. "

Your feeling is wrong.

I am watching all these movies to evaluate, or re-evaluate them - I remember them as boring, stupid and silly waste of time, but often I have changed my mind once I have matured and seen things from a different perspective.

I am hoping, half-expecting and seeing whether that will happen again with these movies, so I have no eggs in any basket or any dog in the race. I certainly don't watch any movie determined to not like it - what would be the point of that? I WANT to enjoy movies, so I ALWAYS hope I will and can like a movie when I start watching it.

The rest is up tot he movie.. only IT will determine whether I will like it or not. If it's good, I will like it. If it's bad, I won't like it. Sometimes there have been exceptions, but your feeling is definitely wrong - in fact, it's almost the opposite for this movie for me; a reviewer trashed this movie and said it doesn't work, and I was - IF ANYTHING - 'determined to prove him wrong by finding something delightful about this movie' - perhaps they aren't mature enough, perhaps they can't appreciate certain things, perhaps...


...yeah. This movie IS trash, sadly. I wanted it to NOT be, so you are completely wrong.

When a movie you REALLY want to like and prove you can find something good about, turns out to be complete trash, it's a pretty big proof that the movie IS trash. If there WAS something good to be found about these movies, I would definitely have found it.

I guess in that sense, Steve Martin's movies are actually congruent; their quality is very much like this movie's. This movie might get a smile or chuckle out of me at some point, but those modern remakes were so bad, only the second one got one (1) chuckle out of me, the first one got nothing but 'I want to vomit and run through my window simultaneously just to escape the boredom and unfunny cringe of this movie'-reaction.



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It's sort of miraculous how they got things SO wrong with SO many movies.

The first movie is ridiculously boring, it's very, very hard, if not impossible to watch it from beginning to the end without skipping anything or falling asleep or both. I would probably skip it in my dreams after falling asleep.

The second movie is better, but still very boring and doesn't quite work - it doesn't entertain enough, and even though some people seem to hold it as some kind of example of a good 'The Pink Panther' movie, I just can't see it.

This movie is boring, unfunny, un-entertaining and complete trash in pretty much every way possible, except of course the gorgeous 1960s sets, houses, cars, and so on. Sadly, the 1960s didn't ooze the kind of electric energy as the 1980s, so movies made in the 1960s tend to be boring in any case, unless someone expressly makes them energetic somehow (plus, the musics are really slow).

The modern remakes are just poor man's Johnny English - and those movies are nothing to write home about to begin with.

The 'clip show' movie is just weird, boring very annoying - Peter Sellers' random scenes from random periods and other movies, or so it feels. It doesn't quite mesh, pretty awful exploitation.

The Return of the Pink Panther is the only one of these movies I would consider 'good', and even that has boring bits you absolutely need to skip, but Sellers' magic comes through loud and clear in that one.

The.. what was it, 'Strikes Again'?, where Dreyfus becomes a supervillain, is quite ridiculous, and still manages to be a bit boring, and is no longer the 'best Sellers' - it's kind of hard to watch if you have ever had a toothache as well, and it's easy for your attention to wander.

The 'son' movie.. I just don't like that actor for some reason, he comes off as a poor man's Steve Martin that tries to look like Laurel - or was it Hardy?, and Steve Martin himself is awful on his 'The Pink Panther' movies. The female characters..





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... well, let's just say that's 'feminism at its finest', while still doing the whole 'let's exploit men by showing scantily clad female bodies'-bit.

I seriously can't get into any of these movies, or understand why they made so many of them, when CLEARLY the humor didn't work most of the time even WITH Peter Sellers, and NEVER without him.

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I like Arkin as Clouseau. I'm a huge fan of Peter Sellers, but that doesn't mean I must dislike Arkin. Sure, he isn't as good as Sellers, but he has another style which works well.

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Sellers = Funnier
Arkin = Cuter :)

Not that Arkin isn't funny, mind you. I don't think Peter Sellers was that cute IMHO.

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Arkin = Cuter :)

hahaha YES. ^_^ i love Alan (even if he might as well be my grandfather, and his son Adam my dad ...)!

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On a MOONLIGHTING commentary Glenn Gordon Caron said that out of 3000 actors (maybe an exageration) that they saw to play David Addison only 3 "got it." Dennis Dugan, Adam Arkin and... of course, Bruce Willis.

I love the Arkins. Alan is a national treasure in my book. Always amazing. Always!

I shall owe thee an answer for that...

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OMG I thought I was the olnly person eho ever thought he was cute! I'm not alone! YAY!

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Tell me do think he did a O.K. job as Clouseau we all know he not as great Peter Sellers but do think he a O.K. job?

Alan Arkin is a much better actor then Peter Sellers. But the best Clouseau is Steve Martin.

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I came in on this film while flipping channels and was not previously tainted. Arkin does a great job. This film has many holes but on it's own, with no attachment to the Pink Panther series, it could be viewed in a better light.
Arkin was funny.

"This is not a world of men, Machine!"

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"But the best Clouseau is Steve Martin."


Lol, yeah, and Plan 9 From Outer Space is the best movie ever made.

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Alan Arkin is probably the George Lazenby of the Pink Panther movies.

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No, this is the Casino Royale of the Panthers.

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"No, this is the Casino Royale of the Panthers."

So wouldn't that make Alan Arkin the Peter Sellers of the Bonds? That's weird.

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Yes, it would, and yes it is weird.

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He can't match Sellers, but I thought he did a far better job than Steve Martin. Arkin at least seemed like Cloesau. Martin looked like Steve Martin wearing a fake mustache.

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He's humorous but for whatever reason it just did not come through on this movie. Screenplay? Director? The movie is not okay. The money could have gone into a different concept altogether. This IS a mistake.





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I agree. I'm a big Alan Arkin fan, but while watching this movie I just kept waiting for him to drop the accent and just be Alan Arkin. They just should have stopped at Sellers... and Steve Martin can go eat some balls.

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There was only one Inspector Clouseau, and only one Peter Sellers. Both are irreplaceable.

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In 1968 Alan Arkin played Inspector Clouseau while Peter Sellers played a shlebby West Coast Jewish guy in "I Love You Alice B. Toklas". There's a paradox for you.

Arkin's comedy stylings were never big. He was the master of slow burns and growing frustration, slowly building into something manic. Clouseau is all big gestures, big attitude, very broad and very slapstick. You can see the strain in Arkin as he tries to deliver something of the Clouseau formula while staying true to his own acting style. It doesn't come off but in a couple of places, his first meeting with the British police head and when he first meets Beryl Reid's character.

I don't think Arkin did such a bad job. He was badly served by his agent and an unusually poor script from the Waldmans. If he hadn't played Clouseau, and Sellers had, it would have likely been as big a bomb and have finished the series.

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The irony is, with Arkin's brilliance at "the slow burn and growing frustration" (right on target with that one, slokes), Arkin would have been the best foil in the whole series as the poor put-upon police liason who typically had to deal with Clouseau's antics.

I would have loved to have seen a Sellers/Arkin pairing along those lines.

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Arkin would have been an interesting Dreyfus, no doubt. I can see him blowing up now when Sellers tells him about the "chimpanzee-minkey" outside the bank in "Return".

But caveat that with this: part of what makes Dreyfus so funny is his sense of decorum and restrait getting shot to hell by what he has to put up with. Herbert Lom played that part of Dreyfus very well; Arkin seems too realistic an actor to get across that undercurrent of strait-laced zaniness.

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Honestly, just like Sellers playing Clouseau, I simply can't see anyone but Lom playing Dreyfus. I was thinking more along the lines of the police official on-site that Clouseau "works" with. Something like the role Frank Finlay played in INSPECTOR CLOUSEAU, only not corrupt.

Just as an example, what if Clouseau had been assigned a case in the U.S., and Arkin had played his American police liaison?

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Yes, I see what you mean. But I agree it's hard to see anyone but Lom playing Clouseau's foil in any of those movies, especially the over-the-top '70s ones. "Pink Panther Strikes Again" is as much Lom's film as Sellers'.

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He doesn't seem quite as natural in the role as Peter Sellers or even Steve Martin, but I don't mind him.


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I'm an Arkin fan so I might be a little biased, but considering that I went into this movie expecting it was going to be pure cringe, I ended up thinking it was not that bad. Arkin does a decent job with middling material and is good at making the part his own. If anything, I miss Blake Edwards' more inspired direction more than I miss Sellers, genius that he was.

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