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Love letter for pretentious people


This is one of those movies that have deliberately been made 'incomprehensible', because it's much easier than actually writing an interesting story that's compelling and doesn't have too many plot holes.

Kubrick's own explanations aside (no extraterrestrial spacefaring civilization would treat even as lowly beings as people of Terra THAT coldly and lovelessly, unless they are the hivemind-type 'scientist'like, more 'neutral' Zeta Reticulians or something.

A higher civilization would welcome a visitor on their level, and explain things to them in plain [their language], using [their own words]. You can't debate with a dog or a monkey, but you can communicate with them using body language and energy (instinctual level). The same way, higher beings would communicate with us using mere words (that they can learn easily and quickly) instead of their usual telepathy and energy flow)..

..this film is pretty pointless and plotless. I think it IS rather cool, especially for the time, that they created a very surreal section in there, but ultimately, it fails to achieve poignancy due to being utterly devoid of anything meaningful, contextual or elevating. There is no MESSAGE, there is no MORAL, there is no CHARACTER (besides HAL-9000), there's no progression, except the silly 'a regular dude becomes a galactic superbaby because he was put in a zoo'-stuff.

I mean, does a dog, giraffe, monkey or a cute piglet become a professor of Harvard and starts giving lectures, just because you keep them in a zoo?

The whole thing is so stupid. Why would E.T.s need a 'cosmic burglar alarm', when they already monitor everything in our solar system constantly and directly all the time? When they have been with us since the beginning of this planet's birth and even before?

This movie claims it's extraordinary that there has been evidence of Extra-Terrstrial life (I am paraphrasing, can't remember the exact words used), but that evidence has been on this planet for millions of years, and still remains. It's ridiculous that moviemakers deny the more interesting reality just to make their dull 'vision' (if this can be called such) more credence.

This movie is the clothes of the naked Emperor; pretentious people don't want to seem stupid and pedestrian, so they praise the movie endlessly with flowery words, whereas honest and direct people see it for what it is; a pretentious, dull mess.

I mean, over 25 minutes of just 'raging apes' should NEVER be part of any movie, ever. There should be a point to it, some dialogue, some kind of plot progression, SOMETHING.

Is this a screensaver or is it a movie? I think it's actually more of a screensaver - lots of 'pretty' stuff happen without any meaning. Sure, you can retcon a stupid 'almost-story' for the flying toasters, but that doesn't make them interesting.

This movie is indeed a love letter for the pretentious people, because now they can peacock around in their infinite narcissism and put other people down for their stupidity - how those unwashed pedestrians can't see the brilliantly flashy clothes the Emperor is wearing..

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You're right. I "get" the movie, and the novel, about as well as anybody does, yet I still find them boring, especially the movie. But saying that out loud or writing it is like laughing at modern conceptual art--you can't do it if you want the pretentious people to accept you. Fortunately for me, I don't care.

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