The trailer for the new re-release has come out and of course, the movie has been tealed and oranged, thanks to Quackolan, one of the worst directors of all time, so we've lost 2001 forever, the same way we have lost Blade Runner, which was teal and oranged and retouched to death for the disastrous Ridley Scott Final Cut. We are on the verge of losing decades of masterpieces, thanks to charlatans like them.
shareDo you have a link for the new trailer?
sharehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR_e9y-bka0
shareWell there's hundreds of comments on that clip saying how awesome it looks :p
they don't know any better, and if I hadn't truly delved into golden age cinema I wouldn't know any better either.
shareWhats the dates on that period?
sharefrom early silent film period to late 1960's.
share What scenes in the trailer have altered white balance? I've only seen 2001 on TV releases (Which I'm sure jacked up the white balance already just to show up on CRT).
it's not a matter of white balance, it's filters that cover the entire image.
share Ok let me ask this way then. Which scenes look teal or orange. I've seen foolish rereleases of films that alter the white balance or the color timings to supposedly make the film more artistic. For example the brett scene in Alien(1979) in the landing gear was shifted from pale blue to a warmer amber color when it was released into the cinima in the early 2000s. I don't know if the blueish color was the original color shown in the cinimas as as I never saw Alien 1979 in the theatre. I'm just wondering what scenes had the colors altered in the rerelase of 2001. I do agree with you people shoulden't tamper with the original works. I dislike this George Lucish approach people are taking with releases these days.
the teal and orange thing happens all throughout the films, not just one scene, and all films do it. There is no such thing as color in a film nowadays, just degrees of teal and orange. This link explains it better: http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html
And don't be mistaken. They may use Transformers as an example but Fincher's awful films look exactly the same. In the trailer I'm seeing the interiors looking bluer and the skins looking orangier, we'll have to see the full re-release but I can see how it will turn out.
Blade Runner the Final Cut is a huge teal and orange disaster. All you have to do is look at the theatrical cut or director's cut and you'll notice the difference.
Yea. I first noticed it with the matrix which used nasty shades of green.
I suspect the choice of teal and orange stems from the fact that that we have special horizontal cells in our retinas that are specialized in differentiating blue and yellow for some reason directors or whoever is confusing the sensation they get when stimulating these cells as some how artistic.
We also have Red/Green horizontal cells to differentiate red and green but their effect on the human brain is less dramatic compared to our bue/yellow horizontal cells. Thank god were not seeing red green movies.
that's not where it comes from, it comes from ignorance, and our eyes have no preference of a color over another, except for brightness and saturation, that automatically gets our attention.
share Well actually you'll notice women in red before any one else and it has been observed that blue and yellow being that we have special ganglia to differentiate the two are percieved to have stronger borders which for some reason is percieved to be pleasing to the eye but it is over used in movies and advertising that its become an eye sore.
I'm hoping this fad wears out and we get back to proper white balanced colorization that better matches reality.
red is a bright color so it will automatically take the eye's attention. Teal and orange is not being used because of science or anything else.
shareI saw it in a theater originally, VHS, LaserDisc and DVD. This isn't the way it looked and it was still mindf-ing awesome. I can see how Dave and classic fans will be really upset about this.
I can see they'll be telling Nolan like he was HAL9000.
https://youtu.be/UgkyrW2NiwM
Probably done for the IMAX 70mm and 4K version coming out in order to sell to today's audiences. Dave Borman looks like he's waaahing in the ending space scene.
I'll still go watch the IMAX 70mm version knowing it isn't the same.
It will still be boring as hell
shareI certainly hope you are incorrect. I have been talking with people over the past few months about this irritating trend in modern films and TV to have a dark, desaturated, metallic look I suppose popularized by directors like Christopher Nolan and David Fincher. I almost walked out of Black Panther in the first 10 minutes because a 1992 prologue sequence was going heavy with that visual pallette (though cleared up somewhat for the rest of the film). I couldn't complete the Netflix series Ozark because of its sickening bluish tint and dark lighting in every shot. It would be a travesty if 2001 has been "modernized" in this way.
share I especially don't like when seens are drained of their color saturation(Bringing the film closer to black and white) then adjusting the color balance to say blue like you've mentioned. I don't understand what motivates directors or who ever to make their films mildly black and white then trying to hide the fact that they did that by coloring the film bluish. At least were getting away from films that used to go cyberpunk lime greenish. That used to make me notious in the cinima.
If you want to see a recent example of what you"re describing, watch John Badham's 1979 version of "Dracula" in its latest version on home video (I think from 2009): Badham wanted to film in black and white originally but the studio wouldn't let him. Many people remember that original print for its vibrant colors. Badham has gotten his way on subsequent home video releases, and the color has been drained from modern versions, but not to full black and white. I saw the print recently and it looks like a poorly remastered version of a movie almost 40 years old. Badham became the vampire of his own movie.
sharethis is truly atrocious. Last night I read that The Leopard had been restored and color timed with the assistance of the director, I knew immediately the film must have been ruined. I would say it would be best to do these restorations after the directors and DP have died but then you have something like Cleopatra where everything was changed for the Bluray, so you can't win any way.
sharethis is truly atrocious. Last night I read that The Leopard had been restored and color timed with the assistance of the director, I knew immediately the film must have been ruined. I would say it would be best to do these restorations after the directors and DP have died but then you have something like Cleopatra where everything was changed for the Bluray, so you can't win any way.
shareNot to mention too heavy in the blacks and shadows.
shareIt's unfortunate that this classic has been teal and oranged.
shareYeah, but it's not like a dictator decreed that every copy be destroyed and replaced with this abomination. We can still see it the way it was filmed originally and will always have that right.
We're not really losing anything.