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Were REAL animals killed?


When they slaughtered the pig it looked so real. If it was, how could Godard get away with that?


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The animals were REALLY killed, because of a few factors:

1 - during the 1960s animal death was not uncommon to be filmed, such classic like Ruggero Deodato's Cannibal Holocaust are proof enough that even throughout the 70s this continued until animals were given rights for films etc..

2 - it's the French New Wave, almost anything goes really... so expect everything to either be real or almost real.

3 - Godard wouldn't have spent money to make fake animals be killed LOOK realistic he was much more concerned about his film in terms of the idea and the visuals.

4 - the movie although one would not guess is low-budget, WAS a low-budget movie and therefore they used what they coudl make do to make the film function, i.e. a friend's apartment, the forest, roads in the countryside, some country town and even live animals etc... to get their message across in the film.

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While I don't know 100% sure one way or another if the animals were real or fake, I suspect (98% at least) they were real. Considering this is Godard and we are watching a movie featuring cannibalism, rapes and catostrophic traffic jams, the slaughtering of a few animals is not so bad. Since the movie has a bent towards disturbing the viewer, and in many ways a call for them to remember this is a film ~ but still a reflection of life. What I personally dont get is why a lot of people are so offended, as I understood, the animals were meant to be killed that day anyways and Godard sayed "lets film it." Are we so sensitive that we cant see, from a distance, how we get that delicious pork and chicken at the supermarket? Of course, now im stepping onto one of themes of the movie.

Dont hate me, its my opinion.

PS: considering animatronics are both expensive and invaritably date the film (think Jaws), the real animals hold a timeless authenticity that is just as disturbing in 2005 as in 1967.

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The whole animal cruelty in movie production thing personally annoys the hell out of me. It's not as if pigs and chickens aren't killed on a massive level every single day in order to feed the mouths that go on and on about this crap. What's one more pig and chicken in one film with an important statement got against McDonalds? I simply don't understand why it's okay to eat animals yet it's not okay to kill them for entertainment. I don't agree with either, yet in context of the film and of modern attitudes to other life on Earth, I find the whole argument absurd.

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That was a real pig killing and farm animals are butchered daily in the thousands. I doubt this would have been covered by the regulations of the usual animal welfare officials.

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Something that comes to mind for me is Pink Flamingos. There is a scene in there where there is sex with chickens.
Theres also Salo: theres a ton of disturbing stuff (not just murder) in that movie that almost seems real.3
As far as the pig in weekend i think it was real.

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agh. i have yet to see pink flamingos but i dont really want to after hearing wonderful things from my friends.

but ya the pig was real. who cares really. they prolly used it for food or something. that is not sad or anything. it is nature. what is said is factory farms that everyone buys meats from. the animals dont even get to live. they are hung upside down since their birth and are killed with no mercy.

at least in that shot they killed the animal quick and painless by chopping his spine off and THEN draining the blood. and the animal was probably about to be slaughtered in the farm anyways. wasnt loaded with hormones like the factory farms do. stop crying about it kids and realize it is nature. he filmed nature, so what. u should all be out there protesting against factory farms and not organic slaughters.

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The pig auditioned for the role. It knew the consequences. It signed a contract. It was probably suicidal anyway.

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You're absolutely right. I read this book recently titled, 'Four Legs Bad: Animals in Film'. There was a whole chapter on the pig and the duck from WeekEnd. Apparently they were old pets of Godard's god-niece. The pig at the time of the shooting, was already a C-list actor with a failing liver from years of alcoholism. The duck was a self confessed, masochist and holocaust denier. The pig signed a contract that awarded him 40 Francs, a pound of porridge and a trust fund to be set up in his name for his less fortunate pigs. (Ronald the pig from 'Babe' is one such beneficiary of the Sir Bacon Basil Pork Scholarship). The duck was tried and found guilty of treason, blasphemy and credit card fraud and sentenced to death by beheading, to be filmed on celluloid, that future generations of his progeny may witness the punishment in store for potential trouble makers.

There is also a lengthy passage about the poor Jack Russell from The Mask. Anal rape is terrible on a dog of that size and Jim Carrey is lucky to have escaped that trial with community service and a fine.

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Yes the animals were real.

Apart from there being quite different sensibilities about the treatment of animals on film forty-five years ago, what is shown are the actual slaughter methods of the day. Godard was filming an event that was repeated with great regularity on farms for a long, long time. Compare these scenes with the very long scene of Gérard Depardieu butchering hogs in Bernardo Bertolucci's Novecento. I think you could probably butcher pigs yourself after studying that scene. It begins with the hammer and the knife and goes right on through to wrapping the cut pieces in string.

Oh, and about the rabbit--Fur had to be left on the rabbits' feet in French butcher shops so that you would know that they were not cats. Cleaned rabbits and cleaned cats look very much alike. Corinne's mother had left the fur on the rabbit's feet.

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Get a grip young-ons, if you had exposure to great grandparents from the old or 3rd world who showed you firsthand how to slit the chicken's throat or if are/were rural enough to have been farm-raised, you might have gotten the opportunity to witness slaughter for the table. Meat didn't just magically appear neat & square as filets that you see on your plate like they might from a box of Mrs Paul, McNuggets or a ballpark frank.

There simply wasn't an industry-wide consciousness to animal rights just like there wasn't one for actors smoking tobacco like chimneys on-screen at one time. That said, I'd say no animals on film before the 80s were safe, from snake skinning, birds in flight shot from the sky for hunting scenes to horse tripping in westerns. Cruelty was filmed even as recent as that jungle oxen sacrifice in Apocalypse Now.

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There is a difference between killing an animal for food and killing one for entertainment. The same way its different when a soldier kills a man and when a serial killer does.

And to say it was acceptable at the time is BS. It wasn't illegal back then like it is now, but it wasn't acceptable either. People always found it objectionable. Many actors who worked on those Italian films in the 70s have told stories where entire casts and crew walked off the sets due to animal cruelty.

Also, If you read Godard's own statements on killing the pig, its pretty clear he did it for shock value and nothing more. It would kind of kill the shock value if people in the 60s and 70s were like "Animal being killed... thats cool, man."

I personally don't care. I could care less if thousands of animals were slaughtered for no reason. But there's too much BS where people compare it killing animals for food and how it was okay to do it back in the day.

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I personally quit the movie in disgust when the pig was slaughtered and proclaimed I'd found the most offensive, worst movie ever made. I've seen some crap too: The Auteur, The Wolf of Wall Street, A Zed and Two Naughts, Rubber, various random wacky Japanese art films. But this one decided to throw in actual footage of a conscious mammal being killed.

I've been a vegan/vegetarian for most of my life and I consider the killing of mammals to be sickening. Being subjected to this wretched filth is not a pleasant experience and, at least over the past day, has caused me to have that image imprinted in my head. When will it go away?

This movie shouldn't be legal to watch unless you sign a waiver that you want to see carnage. Screw the filmmaker, seriously.

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I've studied Godard and this WeekEnd farce was a disaster. First, it had a lot of uncredited resources and actors (Jeanne-Pierre Lėaud). It is not of his silly French New Wave ethos; it's mean and garbled with no reward. Nobody to identify with because everyone from referenced historical society to the film actors themselves. Just boring as hell. I had to FF through much of the latter third, starting with the nonsensical cannibal scenes. And then there was the rabbit scene, the hog scene, and the chicken scene... That's as far as I got.

This is a corny film with obligatory violence and shock value. Godard was trying to be relevant and he ended up being repulsive and hateful.

You can not justify killing those animals being filmed for shock value. You just can't.

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Looked quite real and it disgusted me.

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