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Crenna's acting in this is so underrated


Don't get me wrong, Hepburn and Arkin are phenomenal and deserve every accolade they receive, but the more I rewatch this movie, the more I appreciate Crenna. He didn't have as showy a part as his other top-billed co-stars, but he does such great work balancing sympathy and a subtle menace that makes you wonder if he will eventually get fed up enough and hurt Susy. His "role within a role" stuff is great too. His voice is so soothing and reassuring while his face is constantly assessing the situation or scanning the apartment.

Also, I love that little moment where he opens the door to let "Roat Jr" in and he gives Arkin's nebbish disguise this "what the hell are you supposed to be" look. Makes me chuckle every time.

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His "role within a role" stuff is great too. His voice is so soothing and reassuring while his face is constantly assessing the situation or scanning the apartment.

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Its a tricky role, and Crenna was well up to that "two things at the same time" nuance.

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Also, I love that little moment where he opens the door to let "Roat Jr" in and he gives Arkin's nebbish disguise this "what the hell are you supposed to be" look. Makes me chuckle every time.

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Yes, Mike seems to split between being afraid of Roat and being just contemptuous of him...its a good, deflating dynamic. Mike's weak enough to be blackmailed (with pal Jack Weston) into this crime, but you always feel he's waiting for an opportunity to take Roat down.

In 1966 and 1967, after about a decade toiling in TV roles, Richard Crenna seems to have gotten an agent who made him a movie star...but pretty much for only two movies: The Sand Pebbles with Steve McQueen and Wait Until Dark with Audrey Hepburn. Its possible that Crenna got his roles because McQueen and Hepburn were so expensive and therefore "cheaper talent" was necessary, but Crenna was rewarded with over-the-title billing and a certain respect for his talent.

Crenna's more of a jerk in "The Sand Pebbles"(a warboat captain with too little smarts and too much pride for the job), so Wait Until Dark is his legacy. Crenna was handsome enough...but a bit pock-marked and a bit flawed in the face(that's why he worked more in TV.) What's key about his casting is that even though Hepburn can't see Crenna's face -- WE can -- and its a nice, reassuring face, just like he has a nice, reassuring voice.

But he also shows just enough menace that indeed you wonder "if he will eventually get fed up enough and hurt Susy." Yes, that's a possibility, it seems -- but then he turns hero. And, of course, gets killed.

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After Wait Until Dark, Crenna got a few more big movies(Marooned was one) but then found TV movies to be his bread and butter. (Crenna also said that "The Hollywood Squares" kept him fed during a career downturn.)

In 1981, Crenna got a small, good part as Kathleen Turner's tough, mean, crooked husband in ''Body Heat" and that paved the way for a "character star" career. (Funny, in 1979, two years earlier, Nice Guy John Forsythe played a tough, mean, crooked judge in "And Justice for All" and THAT gave Forsythe "Dynasty" and his own rejuvenated career.)

But in 1967, Richard Crenna was up there, over the title for Wait Until Dark, next to Audrey Hepburn(a longtime star) and Alan Arkin(a newly minted star) and...he held his own. We felt he belonged over that title.

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Crenna was a great actor with a lot of range.

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Agreed.

Its funny...his first role was in the fifties as an "adenoidal"(squeaky-voice) geek of a high school student on "Our Miss Brooks." Then he took the "dad" role on "The Real McCoys" supporting cantankerous old Walter Brennan as "Grandpa" -- but projected that kind of "virile dad-li-ness" (handsome husband, caring father) that a good TV series back then needed.

Our Miss Brooks and The Real McCoys were officially comedies, but a short-lived show called "Slattery's People" allowed Crenna to play it straight as a politician -- a State Legislator -- who got involved in the "issues of the day." The show was respected(I doubt a show about a State Legislator would be respected today) and...Crenna got the "push" into movies.

From then on , Crenna got older but always in demand over the decades-- movies, TV series, TV movies. A great career from "adenoidal" beginnings.

And somehow...I think Wait Until Dark has HIS most famous role." "And Susy, I just want you to know that..."

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And somehow...I think Wait Until Dark has HIS most famous role." "And Susy, I just want you to know that..."
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It's definitely his biggest role among movie buffs, though I think the general public is more likely to remember him as Col. Trautman in the Rambo movies.

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And somehow...I think Wait Until Dark has HIS most famous role." "And Susy, I just want you to know that..."
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It's definitely his biggest role among movie buffs, though I think the general public is more likely to remember him as Col. Trautman in the Rambo movies.

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Whoa! KABOOM. You certainly got me there. I just sort of forgot -- the first Rambo was long after Wait Until Dark, in the 80's.

Rather than delete my original contention, I'll just leave it there for my embarrassment.

Though you gave me a "save" -- perhaps Crenna's empathetic work in Wait Until Dark IS most known -- and loved -- by movie buffs of a certain age.

I'll also say this. Wait Until Dark is one of maybe only two movies -- The Sand Pebbles being the other one -- where TV star Richard Crenna was sold as a movie star. By the eighties, Crenna was more of a "supporting character player" in movies.

Indeed, the year before Crenna made "First Blood"(the first Rambo movie) in 1982, he had made "comeback" in a surprisingly oily role as Kathleen Turner's rich, crooked husband in "Body Heat." That movie put Crenna's career back on track for supporting roles.

Crenna noted once: "The Hollywood Squares" saved his career during the lull.

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Lol, nothing to be embarrassed about. I've actually never seen a Rambo movie in my entire life. And another confession: I actually did not know Crenna was Trautman until after I saw Wait Until Dark.

Crenna did have a brief "star" thing as you said-- he was also in Star! with Julie Andrews in 1968. He appeared in some westerns in the early 1970s too, I think-- that and a crummy TV remake of Double Indemnity best left forgotten.

Another Hepburn connection: he was in the 1995 remake of Sabrina in a supporting part.

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In 1971 Crenna did the western Catlow with You Brynner and held his own with Yule, no small feat.

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