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the OG man-hating feminist movie


There were aspects of this movie I enjoyed (namely Jeanne Moreau's performance), but I couldn't past the third-wave feminism-esque man-hating attitude throughout the whole thing.

Before you start throwing shit at me, keep in mind that I'm not the type of guy who calls every movie with a strong female lead "liberal propaganda". Hell, Kill Bill is one of my favorite movies of all-time. However, this movie really irked me with its morality and its portrayal of the male antagonists.

Aside from Julie's husband, virtually every man in this movie is portrayed as a one-note sleazeball whose only motivation in life it seems, is to get into every woman's panties they see. They all lose their shit at the mere sight of Julie (whom honestly, is not the least bit attractive) and immediately try sticking their dicks in her upon being in her presence. Julie doesn't even do much to seduce them, they just start drooling over her upon first sight. It's like it was written by those crazy feminists who think every man will rape them when given the chance.

Yet, despite how cartoonishly perverted Julie's targets are, none of their killings feel the least bit justified as none of them are straight up evil (with the exception of maybe the bald guy). They were just normal guys who got accidentally caught up in one man's killing, but aside from the guy in prison, none of them can be held responsible for Julie's husband's death as it wasn't their intent to kill. It can't even be considered manslaughter, as it was only one man pulling the trigger. The rest can't be held accountable.

In comparison to another revenge movie, The Crow, that movie's killings felt earned as not only were the Crow's victims directly responsible for his wife's death, but they were also portrayed as violent, sadistic psychopaths all the way through with not a shred of humanity. The victims in this movie were nothing like that. Their only crime it seems, is their constant desire to pound the pussy. But is that really worthy of death?

I suppose I could be reading the film wrong, and it wasn't really Truffaut's intention to have us side with Julie despite the title alluding to her. But the way the movie spends so much setting up each one of her victims as some sexist, chauvinistic pig seems to me, that Francois really thought those traits alone were enough to make the bride's killings feel justified. It doesn't, Truffaut, especially not coming from you.

Anyone else feel the same?

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You forgot to mention that some of your best friends are feminists in your mysogynist rant.

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Which best friends? You don't even know who I am. And what did I say that was "mysogynist"? Are you a troll?

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The whole notion that murder can be justified is an insane assumption.

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Did you not read what I said? I was arguing this whole time why I thought this movie's killings were NOT justified. When I said the ones in The Crow were, I was speaking in the context of the movie, not as if they were events occurring in real-life.

You still haven't answered my question. What did I say that was "mysogynist"? And which best friends are you talking about?

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A question: Is this movie meant to be the kind of shoot-em-up revenge fantasy that has the audience rooting for the protagonist to blow 'em all away, or is it meant to be more complex and morally ambiguous?

And are you the kind of viewer who could tell the difference?

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If it was trying to be morally complex and ambiguous, then it fails for all the reasons I listed.

Did you not read? Do you know how to?

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You sound disappointed that it wasn't more like a John Wick movie.

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That's how it advertises itself, a straight-forward revenge thriller. Is that my fault for what I expect?

It's more or less what we got anyway, just one with a really confused sense of morality.

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I wonder if men in the 60s were as fragile as they are today.

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