Sexist?


Hi. I just got through watching this movie with my uncle. I watched "300" in theatres the other day, and I think this movie offended me more. I feel like in todays day we have like really violent movies nad such but they are clearly movies. However, this movie kinda pigeonholes women as secretaries and like the "brotherhood" of business. I guess a lot of older movies are like this. I'm just wondering, anyone else find this sexist?

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Anchorman was built upon being sexist, and it's one of the greatest comedies of our time.

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As NedBeattyForever stated, How To Succeed is a satire about the workplace and should be taken as such. The show is set in the 1950's.

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Actually the Broadway musical was first produced in 1962 and the movie came out in 1967. However, pre-"women's lib" attitudes were still pretty common then. In How to Succeed, all the business executives are male and most of the women are secretaries because that's how the business world was then.

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I disagree about the president. I think it's quite obvious that he was supposed to be Lyndon Johnson, who was the president when the movie was released.

Also, the women's hair and fashions in this are very Sixties.

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Yes, that guy had no acting experience but was chosen because of his striking resemblance to LBJ. He also played LBJ in a Johnny Carson skit.

However, in the original show circa 1961, the line about becoming president was obviously an allusion to JFK who Morse somewhat resembled.

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as far as anchorman goes, in the 70's that's just how things worked.

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To Protomom:

It was a satirical period piece, no more, no less.

As far as your contention that "You couldn't get by with a movie like that today", I would hope that you might consider retracting that statement considering the success and acclaim of "Mad Men".

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Well look at STAR TREK takes place 300 yrs later but was sexist in many areas

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There don't happen to be many female characters in the movie, get over it you insufferable guttersnipe. I am so intolerant of anyone who gets offended by anything that I contradict myself. If you ever get offended by anything you're just trying to substantiate your self respect by finding a reason to be a nuisance.

It was a satire of the work place, so naturally all of the characters will be stock characters exaggerating the quirks and manners of a general stock of personality stereotypical to the workplace, and at this point in time there were not that many women stereotypical to the workplace. As well they only began to live in a culture where you couldn't use gender specific pronouns collectively, you can even hear in the song there's one part where they sing, "Rosemary: Brother! Chorus: Brother! Sister! Chorus: Sister? Sister!"

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It's the way things were back then. The the concepts of "sexist" and "sexism" didn't even exist, let alone the words.

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I get so tired of this PC nonsense...

Women get beaten and raped in today's movies but since they are carrying the guns as well as the men somehow its all a bit better.

To appreciate films you must appreciate the time they were made and then embrace the quality of the film...its music....its dance.....its story....the quality of the acting and the quality of the writing....

Move on...if not, go throw away any books you own by Jane Austen or William Shakespeare...

Thanks for listening.
....yes, I am a female.

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ssweet6, I could not have said it any better than you did. Thank you for posting your comments.

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I get tired of people who slam political correctness. Political correctness is just another term for "courtesy" and "politeness". It's voluntary. Those who never learned politeness are free to fart at the dinner table and pat themselves on the back for being un-PC, but it's not like anyone's impressed.

About the movie, it's already been said: it's a satire and meant to be sexist, racist and narrow. The grand finale about "Brotherhood" was about as tongue-in-cheek as it gets. Like "All in the Family" or "Blazing Saddles" you're supposed to laugh *at* the morons who act that way, not admire them.

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Political correctness is akin to censorship.

Get the facts first - you can distort them later!

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"The concepts of "sexist" and "sexism" didn't even exist, let alone the words."

Quite true, and it's important to keep that in mind. Those words entered the language in 1970 along with the resurgence of feminism at that time (colloquially known as "women's lib"). Before then, if you had called someone a "sexist," he probably would have assumed you meant "sex expert" or "sexologist"!

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you are clearly missing the point. it is mocking the sexiest attitude of the business world at the time. every character plays extreme architypes that illustrate the business world. satire

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You do realize this play was written fifty years ago, right?

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I enjoyed this movie. It was funny and the music wasn't half bad. When I first saw it, I didn't know it was a musical (caught it half-way through). If I had known that it was a musical from the start I probably wouldn't have stayed on the channel. About the movie being sexist, that is PC tripe. It is just entertainment, something to look at and enjoy.

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If I had known that it was a musical from the start I probably wouldn't have stayed on the channel.

Why? What have you got against musicals? For that matter, why does it seem so many of today’s younger people dislike musicals? Can someone explain it to me?



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Get a life. It is satire in its best form. You don't know art from...well I can't say it here.

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This movie isn't merely a product of its time. This is making fun of the attitudes of its time. Yes, the business world is a big fraternity, women are in administrative positions and are sexually objectified. That's exactly the point. That's how it was in those days. That's how it still is to some extent. "A Secretary is Not a Toy"-- that's humor. It's making fun. It's called satire-- get it?

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So when did this movie become a rant for how females are portrayed in movies?

Stay on topic, and if the topic isn't someone needs to delete it!

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