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Why did Newman have Mitchell taken out of script?


In the movie "Hombre" the mine set was a long journey for the actors ending in desert heat and minimum of services. There was a dispute between Cameron Mitchell and Paul Newman that tortured Mr. Mitchell in the last years of his life. I knew Cameron during this time and he went into details on several occations about the arguement between him and Paul and how Paul lost his temper when Cameron pleaded for consideration of his "fellow actors". Cameron received starring credit at the head of the film and after their dispute, Cameron was written out. I saw the version where Cameron's character got shot with a tacky spaghetti western style blood splatter on the lense. I understand that there is more than one edited version of this film out there. This information is from Cameron to me directly. He would tell these fabulous stories about his past keep my crew fascinated. Did you know his rat pack consisting of Richard Burton, Sid Caesar for starters and the vodka filled swimming pool? Any more details would be appreciated.

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I don't understand your post exactly, but I would like to make some remarks:
(1) I doubt that Paul Newman had no compassion for the other actors. He is known as a great "team player" who has no problems (or even likes it) to be surrounded by other good actors!
(2) In fact, there was one bigger scene with Cameron Mitchell cut out. (I know that this scene was shot, because there are photographs of it on the DVD.) It's a scene in a barber shop after Newman's character went to town, and Mitchell's character (the sheriff) questions him. But I'm sure, that this was the decision of the director and had nothing to do with Paul Newman!
(3) I don't understand what you are meaning with the "spaghetti western style blood" - it's really a very bad effect, but it has nothing to do with Cameron Mitchell: This scene is about the killing of on of the other bandits (Lamarr Dean, played by David Canary)...

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Some of the best screen lines in the movie were said by Cameron Mitchell.
When the gal played by Dianne Cilento (Jessie) confronts him about getting married, he tells her "Every day I strap a 3 pound gun on my waist. Every Saturday night I take a drunk cowboy who wants to outshoot me to jail and he throws up on my only good shirt. I look down this street and it leads to nowhere.
I don't need marriage. I need out."
How can you beat dialogue like that?




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I believe Romanoff's post. I could never understand why a character actor of the caliber of Cameron Mitchell just "disappears" from the film so early. Narratively, he was needed at the mine to play a role parallel to Mr. and Mrs. Favor. Mr. Favor and Jessie in the cabin, their significant others (Mrs. Favor and Mitchell) down below. Mitchell's character was meant to be there, and possibly shot for an act of conscience due to his feelings for Jessie.

Listen: Paul Newman was not a SAINT, he was a man, and he was the greatest draw at the Box office in history after John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Gary Cooper, Clark Gable and Tom Cruise (in terms of performance in the annual list of Top 10 Box Office stars). You don't get there by not being calculating. I mean, have you ever seen THE SECRET WAR OF HARRY FRIGG? As Pauline Kael pointed out in the mid-1960s (I think it was a review of HARPER), Newman had the maturity to now play risky material, and was suited to playing Saul Bellow's Herzog.

Newman did less with his talent than Brando, but not being a genius, he wasn't scored for it.

I say this as Newman as the star of the movie (and a Top 3 box office star who would, in two years, ascend to #1) and he has to be be PROTECTED. The relationship between Jessie and John Russell is the center of the movie; there chemistry, no matter how muted (due to Russell's character) is the reason Russell sacrifices himself -- to save Jessie. He wouldn't have done it for anyone else.

The survival of Cameron Mitchell's character might have complicated the plot line. First off, it's simpler without his character there at the end, and eliminating him reduces the problem of Mitchell's taking the spotlight away from Newman's character, and complicating the relationship of Russell and Jessie.

Besides, Mitchell was giving a fine performance and could have stolen scenes. You already have Richard Boone stealing the film as a whole with his memorable baddie -- having two thieves in the cast was too much.

Ray Walston, in an interview on THE STING DVD, says that in a scene without Newman or Redford, with just Harold Gould, he was doing some "business" to boost his performance and director George Roy Hill cracked down on him. Hill told him to cut the business, as the movie was about Newman and Redford.

Jesus Christ, the cast already had double Oscar-winner Frederic March, at the time considered the great American actor (he was a great stage actor, too; Spencer Tracy was just a movie actor and he eventually inherited the title until Brando's comeback in the early 1970s blew away all contenders for the title). Notice how he doesn't exactly act up a storm, or is given much of a part. He is just there, doing a nice walk-through bit part a hundred actors could have played. But he was Frederic March.

Having Cameron Mitchell at the end would have complicated things.

My feeling is that Newman, to protect his part (which is being overwhelmed anyways by the great Boone and the wonderful Frank Silvera -- Martin Balsam was a fine actor, too, but he was playing a mouse), had Mitchell written out. HE DIDN'T BECOME AMERICA'S FAVORITE MOVIE STAR SINCE THE DEATH OF GABLE BY NOT BEING CAREER ORIENTED.

Burt Lancaster had Barbara Loden fired from THE SWIMMER and replace dby Janice Rule as Loden acted him off ths screen. The scenes were reshot. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE STAR.

Mitchell is very fine in his early scenes. So, it was time for him to go. Having Boone, Silvera, and Mitchell at the end is one good actor too many, as Newman already is surrounded by Oscar-nominees Diane Cilento, Martin Balsam (soon to win his trophy), and double-Oscar-winner Frederic March.

Mitchell probably gave them an excuse by feeling some sense of equality and asking Newman, who had the power on the set, for better conditions. Anyone who has been on a set that must come in on time and budget and faces multitudes of breakdowns, mishaps, needs for reshooting, etc. knows that things can get pretty heavy for the cast (as well as the crew).

So Newman had him written out.

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I respectfully disagree. First, Mitchell is not written out of the movie, as he plays a major role as the town sheriff. Mitchell is important to the film because he represents the death of morality in the Old West. Instead of enforcing the law, he goes bad and becomes a criminal, justifying Russell's negative view of white people and white civilization. Don't forget, Russell is a reservation police officer and he kills the bad sheriff. Russell retains his morality.

Newman was not afraid of surrounding himself with great actors and this movie proves my theory. Boone, March, Balsam, and the women are all great. Newman understood that to create a compelling drama you must have compelling bad guys. And Ciscero Grimes is a compelling character.

Just look at the stars Newman shared the screen with: Steve McQueen; Orson Welles; Robert Redford; James Mason; Joanne Woodward; George C. Scott; Jackie Gleason; George Kennedy; Fredrick March; Strother Martin; Lee Marvin; Tom Cruise; and the Hanson Brothers!

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Hey gverdin he also made a movie with the great Henry Fonda.

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You are absolutely correct. They were in the film version of my favorite book, "Sometimes a Great Notion." I know the critics don't like the movie but I do and Newman was very proud of the job he did in directing.


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I don't know if Newman had him written out of the script. A lot of times scenes are deleted after all the shooting and it is put together by the director and film editor. Either way the movie probably helped Mitchell's career as he had a good television and movie career and right after this movie he had a starring role in the popular tv western series The High Chapparel.

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Mitchell did have some of the best lines in the movie;

"I don't need marriage, I need out!" (already mentioned)

And my favorite line in the movie;

"What are you doing here Frank?"
"Going bad honey."

I consider that one of the best lines in a western ever, love it every time I hear it.

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re mccadoo's opin on 'going bad, honey'

could not agree more one of the great lines in filmdom
and t/y for reminding me of it
im always so blown away by boone's cicero grimes i forgot
this line

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Since Fonda and "Sometimes a Great Notion" are mentioned, I'd also like to point out another very good actor that Newman shared that film with - Richard Jaekel. The scene when Jaekel is pinned under the log in the rising water is excellent, in so many ways.




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re newman jaekel death scene in a great notion

yes the single most powerful scene ive ever seen
matter of fact i cannot watch this scene anymore
it is simply too intense and too heartbreaking

if memory serves jaekel earned an oscar nom and well deserved

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Paul Newman was well know for being a self center movie star who really didn’t care much for other starts unless it was someone as liberal as himself like Robert Redford. And these two men almost destroyed the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Read what the director had to say about these two. By the way he did the same thing to Lee Marvin in Pocket Money, cut many good parts so he would have more screen time. But in my opinion Marvin stole the movie anyway.

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I know this was eight years ago on another website and you'll probably never see this, but I doubt George Roy Hill had much regret about working with Paul Newman and Robert Redford on Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid considering he shot The Sting with them a few years later.

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naw serge, i dont think i believe you

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Since this hasn't been definitively settled, maybe there's someone out there who's read Leonard's book?

Almost surely, if this account of Mitchell's umbrage is correct, there'd be a bigger part for his character in the novel. I mean, it's not a certainty, but it might be a good indicator.

Maybe I should just read the damn thing myself -- I re-read Riding the Rap last week and really enjoyed it.

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In Leonard's book, there is no role of sheriff, sulky wife, or of a sassy landlady. These were added to "juice up" the film. An important character from the book was also eliminated, a young woman who was recently rescued from captivity among the Apaches. And the "inside man" was named Frank Braden, not Cicero Grimes. It's a great book, and in spite of the changes, a very good film adaptation.

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