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Not sure what I was watching


I thought I was watching a movie about revenge. All of a sudden, I'm watching a movie about the hanging of cattle rustlers. It changed so quickly. And for a quick moment, it tried to be a love story. The story telling was too choppy and didn't flow very well.

This movie was just on the verge of being really good. I think I criticize it more because I watched it right after watching the Sergio Leone movies. It's too bad he didn't get his hands on this one. His touch to it would've been great.

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There is a report that Eastwood offered Leone the director's chair, but that Leone turned it down because he was instead going to make Once Upon a Time in the West, which Eastwood had just turned down a few months earlier.

Whether or not that's true, I don't know.

Basically, what you're saying is that Hang 'Em High is plot-heavy, which is accurate. The Leone movies could also be plot-heavy, but they were more stylish and less conventional.

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The Leone movies could also be plot-heavy, but they were more stylish and less conventional.
You're right. They were a little plot-heavy and very stylish, but they were much, much more enjoyable. Very cohesive when compared to Hang "em High.

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I felt this movie had huge potential with the end result turning into a bit of a mixed bag.

Clint Eastwood said he wanted to make a movie that examined the pros and cons of capital punishment and in this respect the movie is very effective. The brutal hanging of Eastwood at the begining of the movie is horrid, visual and very effective. The scenes with the Tumbleweed wagon are eerie and the killing of one would be prisoner by a guard (the ever brilliant Ben Johnson) is dirty, gritty and highly effective. The scenes of Eastwood battling with the judge are like a snapshot of what Eastwood would be doing in a few years time as Harry Callaghan and again in these scenes the movie impresses. The killing of the first lyncher is brilliant, the cattle ruster subplot is very well done as is the town hanging which is really the highlight of the movie.

Where the movie falls apart is the romantic subplot which was a complete misfire and should not have been included, the unfinished business at the end in relation to finding some of the lynchers is unsatisfactory since the movie went to the trouble of including two significant subplots.


Overall it was a good movie which nevertheless had some flaws.

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I felt this movie had huge potential with the end result turning into a bit of a mixed bag.

Clint Eastwood said he wanted to make a movie that examined the pros and cons of capital punishment and in this respect the movie is very effective. The brutal hanging of Eastwood at the begining of the movie is horrid, visual and very effective. The scenes with the Tumbleweed wagon are eerie and the killing of one would be prisoner by a guard (the ever brilliant Ben Johnson) is dirty, gritty and highly effective. The scenes of Eastwood battling with the judge are like a snapshot of what Eastwood would be doing in a few years time as Harry Callaghan and again in these scenes the movie impresses. The killing of the first lyncher is brilliant, the cattle ruster subplot is very well done as is the town hanging which is really the highlight of the movie.

Where the movie falls apart is the romantic subplot which was a complete misfire and should not have been included, the unfinished business at the end in relation to finding some of the lynchers is unsatisfactory since the movie went to the trouble of including two significant subplots.


Overall it was a good movie which nevertheless had some flaws.


... pretty good analysis.

As you suggest, the core elements are quite strong and the film does a good job with both the visceral, visual dynamics of lynching (and some other matters) and the thematic debate. But I think that the potential was always limited by the television backgrounds of director Ted Post, writer-producer Leonard Freeman, and writer Mel Goldberg. To scrape away some of the episodic television encrustations and give the film a rawer look and a leaner shape, Eastwood may have needed to have been another year or two into his career as a Hollywood star (this film, of course, constituted his first American vehicle as a star). If Eastwood had made this film after beginning his association with Don Siegel (which occurred later in 1967 with Coogan's Bluff), Siegel may well have directed it and reshaped the script with a writer such as Dean Riesner.

In an ironic, extratextual sense, the romantic subplot proved important because it constituted Eastwood's first as a star. In the three Leone movies, he had had no romantic transactions with women whatsoever and played an essentially asexual character, so here Eastwood was wetting his feet, so to speak. Of course, whether that relationship and its portrayal made for a better film is another question.

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In an ironic, extratextual sense, the romantic subplot proved important because it constituted Eastwood's first as a star.


Also it perhaps helped Cooper realize his own quest for revenge was somewhat Quixotic after hearing about her own quest for revenge. And ditto for her.

It was't really much of a "romantic subplot" anyway - Cooper spent more time with Jennifer than he did with Rachel. I thought it was more about a couple of wounded people connecting.

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I actually thought it was very good and well put together yeah it was choppy, but life is like that, so for me it worked really well.
I watched A Fistful of Dollars followed by this and personally preferred the latter, just found it easier to get into and for better viewing, but the Sergio Leone films are classics but not my cup of tea at all.

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Yes, the movie had different subplots, but who cares? It was easy to follow. Inger Stevens was a gorgeous and likable blonde, so her romantic relationship with Eastwood added to the attraction of the film. (It made Clint cool and more human.) And the way Clint captured the dirtball Bruce Dern character was cool. If anything, these two subplots added to the attraction of the main plot, as they were enjoyable just by themselves. And the two subplots and main plot were easy enouhg top follow, so that noen confused any of the others.

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I agree with this; and I agree with the other post about this, too - that I felt like I was watching a TV western. But I agree completely with what you said: "This movie was just on the verge of being really good." This one just doesn't quite make it for me, and it peters out at the end.




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Not sure what you were watching?


A good western movie, that's what it was.

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