Does someone have an idea of what this movie is about? Or at least some of its details? I think the big hole at which they were standing, had the form of a heart and Lis called for Fando from it. Also close to the end, when he cared her body on his back, they were like the dao figure (black and white)
There were many other more obvious symbols used, but most of them remain unclear for me, so I'd appreciate some help! Thanks:)
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my interpretation was that no matter how much we search for the answers...at times they are within themselves. some react different with this knowledge. lis was able to accept this. fando freaked out.
i like the adam and eve reference too.
It's hard to try to explan the hole movie, because there are just too much symbolisms in there, and many things have more than one interpretation.
Trying to make a general idea of the movie, I'll have to say that this movie is about the innocence of the main characters, and their conflicts with the perverted world. And about trying to get in touch with the escencial being (in this case by the name of "Tar"), while Fando and Lis struggles with all their traumas (rape by the racional thinking, conflict with father and mother,etc).
My ideas about this are based in what I have readed in Jodorowsky's books
"A quien llamas bestia, bestia??"
Ill give it a try, but I seen it a long time ago.
The first scene, with Lis eating a rose, is symbolizing the circle of life.
The strong man-hands smashing the eggs are the symbols of sexual molestation on a child.
The famous paint-scene, where they paint their names on each other, is obviously the act of making love passionately. A lot of symbols are reflects Fando's past and his problems with the past. (Like his mother who sold out his father to the political party/war) the temptation, etc... and the things why he can't feel free. (Taking care of the paralyzed Lis)
The people with the scissors at Lis's grave, are cutting out their part of her, which symbolizing the mourning in a sort of cannibal-ist way.
And the beautiful ending is obviously about the real Tar: Paradise, which exists outer this sinful, agonizing, and barren life.
But these are in only my opinion.
Its surrealism in the classical sense. There is not meaning. Its art for arts sake. Its a little more obvious if you see El Topo or The Holy Mountain. Do not read into it, you will be wasting your time. But if you would like to exercise your intellect prowess knock yourself out.
shareI do not believe for a moment this film has no meaning, and is art for art sake. To say not to read into it or you will be wasting your time and if someone wants to exercise their intellectual prowess knock themselves out is ludicrous. Your approach is ludicrous and shows you exercising your brain dead prowess.
Every photograph or painting or film can have a different meaning to every different person in the world.
For instance this film to me is very straightforward in it's core story.
The world is destroyed and laying in rubble. The rich (bourgeoisie) are holding onto their old lives despite the rubble around them as evidenced by the scenes of them dressed up with their waiters and band members conducting business as usual. This is all metaphorical of course and in fact could be the symbols of the ghosts of the past society that once ruled the land.
The world is corrupt and perverted and evil. Traits which even leak into our main protagonist Fando. He is a man that can go into fits of rage that even lead him to the worst sin of all, brutal murder. Even he is a victim of this cruel world and is no better then the rest, but he also is no worse.
Lis has been molested as a child and Fando has an unusual scarring past with his mother. Their pasts haunt them as they search for freedom and peace of mind from this terrible world they are cursed to. The mythical place they search for can really only be obtained by leaving the world they are in.
If this was done conventionally it would be about two lovers fighting against an apocalyptic world of savages, cannibals, and perverts of every kind. Trying to journey toward a paradise city to fall short because after all they are human beings as well and are of the same infallible nature as the rest. But in their failure lies the answer, the peace they seek where the world of human weakness can not touch them. Where Fando and Lis can be together perfectly and without human frailty. Paradise.
Seems to be a lot of meaning in this film to me, but then again that's just me.