Westerns back in?


Does anyone think westerns like John Wayne did them will ever come back?


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it's a good question that sounds almost like will there be another John Wayne or Clint Eastwood?

really hard one to answer!

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I would really like to see Westerns return in a big way, really I would. But one day, a thought came to mind and I'm not so sure I want it to happen.

The thought:

I just know that if/when Westerns return to style, Hollywood would embark on remake craze (sort like they are now with other films) and start trying to remake all the good ol' Western classics.


but I don't think they will return. Take in mind, Westerns during the first part of the century were simply our action movies from the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s.


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I grew up watching the great western classics (most of them with John Wayne) and I don't think we're ever going to see another one like him. Just like we'll probably never see another Clark Gable. There's no way the studios would attempt to remake some of the great western classics. They would have to be crazy to try because they can't be topped. I may not have been born when these movies were made (I'm only 21), but the quality of the movies now is so much lower than it used to be. I thank my dad for getting me to watch my first western(El Dorado). This one is still my favorite. I also agree with what was posted above, I think that the action movies since the westerns went out of style replaced them.

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alde, it's good to see that you enjoy westerns and other older films and that you grew up on them, like I did.

However, the point about you stating that Hollywood would never dare remake some western films I'm going to have argue.

Just take a look at the past 5 years alone and you will see countless, countless remakes. From great, cult hits like "Planet of the Apes" to Award Winning films such as "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" Hollywood has proven that they just don't really care that much about their older films and their past history. Plain sad.


I shouldnt complain too much though, because at leat many good, older films are getting nice releases on DVD. Now if only some studios would care to re-release some of their classics on the big screen again,,, that would be awesome




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to be honest i hope they wont remake any of the old classic westerns, i grew up watchign john wayne and robert mitchum, kirk douglas, burt lancaster, gary cooper, it wouldnt be the same with our nowaday actors.
or can u imagine leo di caprio in a cowboy outfit? omg hang on they did that! see what i mean ;)
those golden classics should remain classics, i never get tired of watching them!

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I hope they do come back in, but it would almost be an act of sacrilege to try and remake any of the old classics. John Wayne is almost legendary and replacing him would be like trying to imagine someone else other than Marlon Brando as the godfather. Robert Mitchum is another it would (in my opinion) be impossible to emulate. If any of you have seen him in The Good Guys and the Bad Guys you'll know what I mean. While the other actors aren't bad, Mitchum makes them look like robots, as much by what he looks as what he says. I think he is what makes El Dorado so damn good (sorry).

Todays actors, even the so-called rebels, are sadly lacking in the tough man image needed to play a rugged western hero.

Like flashman said, Leo in a cowboy outfit, ARGH run away!!!

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I don't believe Hollywood will ever make another 'good' western. Part of this reasoning is at the time, the Old West,...wasn't really that old in the 1900's. Even when this was released, the West was still glorified and tales retold til' there wasn't anything left to say. The same will happen in another 40-50 year's,...the 'crap' movies of this era' will be glorified (to some extent),...but as the Old West is Long Now Dead,...so are all the stories and heroes of that time. But I tell ya Pilgrim,...I sure miss the Duke.

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I have to agree, I don't see a return to the popularity of western movies. These days the closest thing you get to a blockbuster western is Brokeback Mountain, and that's certainly a far cry from El Dorado!

I don't think that there are very many actors today who can fit the bill of the tough and rugged gunfighter/cowboy that John Wayne and Clint Eastwood pulled off. I think that Tom Selleck is maybe the best, as I've always enjoyed his westerns and think that he's a very credible western hero. Although I don't like him as much, Sam Elliot is another one.

I enjoyed 'Open Range' with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall, but that's probably the last western I've seen come out that had any publicity whatsoever. Costner I think is very good at making westerns, but he's obviously not a John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, or Lee Marvin.

Hollywood changes, as time has shown, but these days it has become so youth oriented. The concept of an actor being "rugged" is almost forgotten. What we have now are a bunch of pretty boys who are in touch with their femenine side in most of the leading rolls. Most of your older actors are stuck playing second fiddle to the young upstarts, or doing Made-for-TV movies. I use Selleck as an example of that.

What a previous poster said is correct. The days of the Old West are long gone, but they are also not quite long gone enough. Look at the number of films we're seeing every year based in the medieval period, most of which have a lot more success than today's westerns. Medieval is en vogue right now, and westerns will be too at some point... although it's doubtful that they'll ever return and be like the Duke's films. They'll all be 3 hour epics like Dances With Wolves starring 20/30-something year old pretty boy types.



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Yeah, about every Western made for the last 20 or 30 years has characters that nobody could even care to watch. They show all the cowboys wearing long black coats and shoulder length hair. They never speak but go around with stern looks on their faces and chips on their shoulders. When I watch these Westerns I'm hoping they'll all get gunned down so the movie with end as soon as possible releasing me from the torment of having to watch it. :)

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Sure they will. Hollywierd just came out with a peach of western called "Brokeback Mountain". Talk about rugged ! I am real sure that the Duke would be proud...

/sarcasm off

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Robert Mitchum and John Wayne as the two coyboys in Brokeback Mountain? (That is a genuine typo, but thought I would leave it as is.)

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Westerns never really went away. They changed in style, but they have always been with us. And always will be.

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Imagine how political correctness would require a re-write of Western film conventions, which is essentially what audiences were treated to with BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN albeit taken to an extreme degree. The mysogeny, racial insensitivity, patriarchal power structures, sexism, violence against women and minorities, not to mention on-screen smoking: All of it would have to go.

I do expect to see some classic Western remakes pop up, particularly of the more highly regarded Spaghetti Westerns that maybe never got the kind of wide distribution at the time which would have resulted in genuine box office success. What you would need to precipitate the movement would be a defining effort that becomes a financial hit on it's own. I think we can thank our lucky stars that BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN probably won't serve that role -- an ambitious young filmmaker like Christopher Nolan or even Quentin Tarantino could probably come up with a Western that might spark a craze, but the problem would be studio executives deciding who should be the star names, what sort of inclusiveness would be needed to make the film appealing to diverse audiences, and how you would franchise out the merchandising rights to Burger King for their french fry cartons.

Somehow I don't see that happening, but a revival of the Western is long overdue: Perhaps the classics could be restored for exhibition again. I for one would make a point to see EL DORADO on the big screen and would blanche at the thought of anyone trying to remake it. Who would play The Duke??

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If there was any movie NOT to be re-made, it's "El Dorado!" How could any new version recapture the chemistry between those four men, plus the co-stars.

Who would want to anyways when you have the best, already.

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I certainly hope that one day they'll return again! I'm a big Western fan myself! Just don't do any remakes. Focus on new material and try to be original is all I can say.

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Not a chance. Who would make them? There are no actors like that anymore. Nobody in Hollywood understands the thinking of people like the characters in the old Westerns. I would hope they never try myself. They'll just mess it up the way they did with the remake of "True Grit".

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Nobody "messed up" True Grit; the Coens' film, while not exactly amongst the brothers' best output, is far superior to the thing Hathaway made in 1969. And The Dude made for a better Rooster Cogburn than The Duke, too, suckers.



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Today they all have to be gritty, miserable, graphically violent revisionist crap. No, unfortunately the days of westerns like we had in the '40s through '60s are gone.

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Hollywood should leave this genre to people who actually enjoy it.

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