Isn't there a documentary like "Dont Look Back" with Dylan full on changing from acoustic to electric? There's a scene where he's crying because he got booed off stage and Lennon tells him something like "f... 'em it's all about the money!".
What film is that from?
perhaps it's Eat the Document?
shareThere is no scene like that with Lennon that I know of. I think you are mixing up two different, but very famous epsisodes..
At Newport Folk Festival 1965, Dylan first performed electric live, there was booing (also cheering) in the audience. Dylan leaves the stage after three songs (the only ones he and the band had rehearsed)--he is called back to the stage to play acoustic by Master of Ceremonies Peter Yarrow. Some said Dylan was crying backstage, others say no.You can see that episode (and the many contradictory eye wtiness accounts) in No Direction Home; also some of it, without commentary is in Murray Lerner's old doc "Festival". The footage Scorcese uses in NDH is Lerner's. To my eyes, there are tears on Dylan's face when he is back on stage playing acoustic, others tell me they don't see it.
The other episode is in "Eat the Document" (only available on bootleg). Lennon and Dylan are in the back of a limousine VERY drunk, stoned, wasted, or some combination thereof. Dylan is chattering away happily (at first), Lennon is being very snide and superior. Its hilarious for awhile, then gets painful as Dylan starts getting miserable and sick (literally). If my memory serves the scene is at least ten minutes long. Lennon may say something like "It about the *** money", he makes various sarcastic comments (mainly at Dylan's expense), but I don't remember.
I can see why someone would think those were tears, but theres a couple times where the light shines right and you can see his forehead is quite moist and wet too, which could mean he was just sweating quite badly as well...that ETD scene is interesting, the way at first how Dylan and Lennon are playing off each others sarcastic and snide remarks, and how as it goes on Lennon is still wanting to "play" but Dylan is obviously getting more and more sick.
share I know, I thought it was sweat too, but at one point he turns, and you see the other side of his face, and what looks like a very distinct tear coming out of the inner corner of his eye. Not definitive, I know.
ETD generally I find pretty painful to watch. Dylan and Howard Alk edited it (the footage was shot by Pennebaker) and the idea Dylan seemed to have was to portray himself in the least flattering light possible. I keep thinking--wasn't anyone concerned that this guy seemed to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown/ drug overdose/anorexia combination? I have to wonder how Albert Grossman could have had Dylan booked for 60 more concerts for the late summer and fall of 1966 (all cancelled after Dylan's motorcycle accident). I wonder if he thought Dylan was driving himself into an early grave and he figured he should squeeze everything he could out of him while he had the chance.
Yeah, I wonder that too. I mean Grossman was right there, always around Dylan, so he clearly knew what kind of shape Dylan was in, so what does he do? Book him for a couple more months of shows. Dylan was so close to being gone. I read that around this time Robert Shelton the writer was hanging out with Bob and co in a studio or something, and Shelton said "I'm gonna do a biography on Dylan"...and someone said "You better hurry up, or your going to be doing an obituary on him".
shareI just finished reading "positively 4th street" by David Hajdu and around the end of the book they mention that ride with Lennon. Shortly after that limo ride they had to basically carry dylan up the stairs to his hotel room.
pennebaker: "we laid him down on his bed, and he looked really weird. we sat on his bed and just looked at him. he looked dead. we went downstairs and back outside, and john said 'well, i think we just said goodbye to old bob'"
It also mentions how not only did Grossman do nothing to stop Dylan's drug abuse, but he was the one who supplied him the drugs. He encouraged it among his clients because it made them even more dependent on him. What a smart, filthy rich, sleazebag.
Yeah, Grossman was the manager for Janice Joplin and Jimi Hendrix, so his track record was not good in terms of the life spans of his major acts! His career as a manager really suffered after the deaths of those two great artists. Dylan broke it off with him around '69 or '70 I believe, and was involved in legal wranglings over earnings Dylan believed were due to him until Grossman died in the mid-eighties.
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Grossman wasn't Hendrix's manager. That was Mike Jeffery and (at the beginning of the Experience) Chas Chandler.
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Yes-
there was a follow-up documentary made
called "Eat The Document"
it's hard to find- but you can track down
a copy on Ebay.... or... Ioffer.com
There's a 20 minute bonus scene
of Lennon & Dylan riding around
in the back-seat of a car.
Lennon makes a joke-
something along the lines of:
"Come on, boy- keep your head up
There's no time to waste-
Money, Money"
I think they re-created it for the movie
"I'm Not There"
Anyway-
it's not quite as you described
It's more or less just the two of them chatting,
while Dylan is very, very drunk!
Check out this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8OkqwY0tvc
I love when Dylan shuts up for a second, stares outta the window at a couple on the sidewalk and mumbles: "Aw look at those two lovers over there."
I'm not very fond of the whole Lennon/Dylan car footage though, it's pretty nasty to see him THAT high (he ain't drunk, he's on heroin) and also being a bit of a tool.
I don't mean to impose, but I am the Ocean.