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you should be French to look at it


As a French, I think this is the best war movie that shows the action of the Resistance. It really looks real. Of course, some of the footage are not as realistic as the scene on the beach in Saving Private Ryan but the spirit is here. For the first time, it shows the French as they were. Most of us remained silent until ... until the day you came. This was the passive resistance. People survived hopping for something which was the entrance of a liberation army in their village. A small passage displays it really well, the man who goes out in the streets with his pigs.
Of course you can say that Patton / Douglas is a miscast but look at Colonel Rol, look at Leclerc. I grew up with the image of this men as the true incarnation of their character.

6,6 ??? what a pity. look at it in French !!! You would like to see a 1966 movie with good dubbing? com'on, let's be realistic. Sometimes, you want the butter, the money of the butter and to f^^^^ the cheese seller.

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I have heard stories about how members of the French Resistance betrayed their Jewish colleagues to the Gestapo on a regular basis. Care to comment?

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You have heard stories? what about reading a history book and giving us an example?

There were big problems in uniting the different resistance groups but I don't know what you mean by your comment.

Perhaps you mean the French vichy government and police whi helped deport French jews and resistance members?
There were lots of French people who were pro the Vichy government but the film ignores this unpleasant fact.

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There were lots of French people who were pro the Vichy government but the film ignores this unpleasant fact.


do you know any movies who don't?

I mean except "Le chagrin et la pitie"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066904/

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Hey pal, wake up! 2003 was 5 years ago and the crazy US francophobic mood is gone! Try to find some other "bad guys" to bash and let us enjoy the fine movie that "Is Paris Burning?" is...

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I'm not french bashing and I hate this ignorant "freedom fries" campaign.

I just asked if their are any movies showing that many french during occupation were pro Vichy.

Maybe "Monsieur Klein" with Alain Delon? Haven't seen this one yet ...

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Ok, it's just that the Vichy regime was in control of the south of France (the so called "free zone") while the northern part was directly in control of the Germans, including Paris, so I hardly see how a movie about the Liberation of Paris could show the Vichy Regime or anything that was taking place anywhere else.

Perhaps you meant that the movie doesn't show enough individual "collaborationists" in Paris (I must admit I don't remember), but this is an entirely different matter and I'm not sure that there are a lot of movies portraying individual pro-nazis of other countries either to be honest.

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No one mentioned "Casablanca". Or "To Have and Have Not".

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No, I didn't hear that. Maybe that might have happened once or twice, but to say that all the resistance groups routinely betrayed Jews is crap.

What are they doing? Why do they come here?
Some kind of instinct, memory, what they used to do.

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Good movie.

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Excelent!!!

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"There were lots of French people who were pro the Vichy government but the film ignores this unpleasant fact."

Wars are full of unpleasant facts. According to recent research into the topic, there were something like 3,500 cases of rape by American troops in France alone between the Normandy invasion and the end of the war. I doubt most people have ever heard of that; strange how hard it is to find any WW2 movie that mentions that the U.S. military wasn't operating on PG-13 morality.

Or maybe it's not so strange. Like The Longest Day, this is a war movie about a war that's recognized almost universally as the ultimate "good war." Americans like to remember with pride the part their fighters played in fighting the Nazis, and so do the French, even if that part was considerably smaller. I don't see the problem with that.


Keep flying, son. And watch that potty mouth!

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In the novel Cool Hand Luke there's a brief reference to American soldiers raping French women during that time period. I don't know how widespread it was, or what, if anything, the officers did to curtail it. From what I've read, when the Russians entered Germany, the German women seemed to bear a lot of abuse.






"My girlfriend sucked 37 d*cks!"
"In a row?"

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The difference is that Americans were liberating the French a. If you want to know about other war crimes by the allies, why don't you read more about the Dresden bombings, which apparently were worse than the Hiroshima bombing. Listen, I don't think Americans, Russians, French or whatever are better or worse than each other. But people seems to love to remember the sins of the "other" while ignoring looking at their own sins.

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Rape is inevitable when war is happening. You can try to control it and when I think of 3,500 case I would say the Americans did a pretty good job at that. Simple put war is chaos.

The number of cases of German and Polish women raped by the Russians maybe as high as several million. Accurate records obviously do not exist.

Check out the film "The Downfall of Berlin: Anonyma"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1035730/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

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Bonjour mon amie. I gave it a 10/10!

I TRULY MISS STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN!

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Perhaps one does have to be French to buy into the film's sentimental patriotism. It doesn't make the film successful. Not even as a propaganda film. Sorry.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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