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Italian version

posted 19 years ago by onestooges
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My friend ,who saw this film in italy when he was 12 ,insists there were scenes shown in the italian version that were not in the US version.One is where Miss Soong is taken away and they show Ardonian's henchmen undressing her.Another is when Miss Soong is being prepared for her suspended animation adventure they drop her robe .Our friend says she is shown nude -My friends in the US who saw this film say she is shown nude only down to the very lower back.The first one is not in the American version at all,the other is different than he says .
We have discussed this agmonst ourselves and it seems he could be correcr but no one else has confirmed this .

Does anyone know if the Italian version did show these scenes are not?

[–] TX-9 18 years ago

Yes, I've heard about an Italian version but I don't know if it's for real or not. It would be cool if it were true. However, while KISS THE GIRLS AND MAKE THEM DIE was an Italian film it was filmed with english speaking actors (although most of the actors were European (although actors like Terry Thomas and Raff Valone have been involved in American projects before) with notable acceptions being the American actors Mike Connors and Dorathy Provine (I beleive Dorrothy is an American actress even though she was playing a British agent in the film).). When I saw the video release of this film several years ago (I assume it was the U.S. realease), the scene in which Wilma Soong is 'disrobed' prior to being placed in suspended animation showed her nude from the back but only down to the lower lumbar area just below the sacral dimples. However, when I saw a version of this film on a local cable TV chanel in the 1970's I seem to remember seeing her nude all the way down to her rear end. You could see her anal cleft. But in this era of young women whearing low-rider genes and halter tops you can see that much skin at your local shopping mall!

[–] steveb789 18 years ago

Well I can vouch for the european version as I have seen it a few times.Yes there is a scene after Ardonian's henchmen grab Miss Soong and drag her out of the control room .She is taken to a small room and Ardonian's assistant enters and one of the henchmen starts to unzip Miss Soong's dress ,She has a very wimsycal look on her face as if she cannot believe she is about to be stripped just after she had been betrayed by Ardonian.As her dress is removed she is wearing a black bra and a black short half slip.

The second question is also true in the european version when her robe is dropped she is totally naked as a jaybird.I must add Miss Soong has a great ass!

[–] onestooges 18 years ago

Thanks Steve
You have answered our question- now we are trying to get the Italian version
and can hardly wait

I always knew Miss Soong had a great hind quarters as she certainly wiggles it around throughtout KTGAMTD

[–] TX-9 18 years ago

Amen to that! PLEASE OH PLEASE KEEP US ALL POSTED ABOUT ANY INFO ON THE ITALIAN VERSION (such as where those of us in the United States or else where go to get a copy!). WE NEED KTGAMTD the expaneded DIRECTORS CUT edition on dvd (All Miss Wilma Soong's nude scenes from the Italian version included)! Are you reading this MGM?!! Pardon me, got a take a cold shower!-lol!

[–] steveb789 18 years ago

Well I must admit that i've had a Seyna Seyn fetish since the late 70's.I have about 200 shots of her i've collected over the yrs.Some were sent to me by friends and associates others i found in the internet.There are at least 75 from KTGAMTD ,some still shots of her in the film others were shots of her taken on the set.It's easy to see which part they were filming as you can tell from the different outfits she is wearing.Others come from Casanova 70 and Drums of Tabu ,while others are from different films and i don't know which film it is.There are also some of her in the Med whith other Euro starletts wearing bikinis and having a good time .

My three favorites are from KTDAMTD ,a shot from the film of her in the cylinder in her skimpy silver metalic bikini ,amother is not in the film but on the same scene and she is posing in the silver bikini and lastly as her robe is dropped and she steps toward the freezing device from the european version showing her fully nude from behind.

It is amazing that her looks are quite altered for this film ,in reality her hair is very long and she is wearing a wig in this film and they put extremely heavy eye makeup on her to make her appear chinese.

[–] TX-9 18 years ago

Right, I spoke with someone who said he had an old Europian celebrity magazine from the mid 60's which, in turn, contained an artical on Seyna Seyn. I think it said that she was born in 1941 (so she would be 65 years old this year! She was probably about 24 or 25 when she played Miss Soong in KTGAMTD)and that her mother was from Burma and her father was from England. So she's only half Asian. She said in that artical that she had come to Paris to study in the early 1960's but ended up becoming an actress (weather she had come from England or Burma I don't know). The fact that she was half asian helped her get asian parts but, your right, without the heavy eye make-up she wore in KTGAMTD she looks almost as much Europian as she does Asian.

Well, that's quite a photo collection you have! Especially the shots from KTGAMTD! I've got a Seyna Seyn fetish myself (the woman's a goddess!). Could you tell me how I could start my own collection? Are these stills still being produced or are all your photos ultra rare studio origionals or one of a kinds? I envey your collection!
You should start a website dedicated to Seyna Seyn and post these photos on the internet!

[–] steveb789 18 years ago

It's easy to start collecting - when i first started it was before the internet ,now it's easy
Put her name into as many webservers as you know and check all sites but also put her name on ebay and you can download straight off Ebay for free.
You must check ebay twice a week because they put new ones up all the time.
I was given a euorpean magazine by my friend which had a whole article on her ,alot of shots came from that ,especially KTGAMTD.That is where i first saw the nude scene .I believe it was a french or Spanish magazine men's magazine from 1967.The shots of her away from the studio are great as they show you what she really looked like.

I think she was a poor actress but was used as eyecandy .If you see her in Casanove 70 or the drums of tabu you can see she has a great body as she is dressed in very skimpy clothing in Tabu and she plays a airline stewardess in Casanova who is picked up by the leading man and takes him to her home where she strips down to her bra and panties .

I heard she met someone and fell in love between 1966 -67 and quit acting but that is the last i've heard.

it's too bad she wasn't really put into deep freeze so we could all see her beauty today as she was at 25

[–] TX-9 18 years ago

Thanks, I'll try the webservers and eBay. Do you have all your Seyna Seyn photos down-loaded on a computer disk? I don't know a lot about computers but You could theoreticaly make coppies onto other computer disks and sell them on eBay couldn't you? I've got some money saved up (hint! hint!). Come on, have a heart; WE Seyna Seyn fans have to stick togeather (right?)!lol Seriously, let me know.

Anyway, since you've seen 'behind the scenes photos' of Seyna Seyn in KTGAMTD (and the Italian version of the film), I was wondering if you might be able to answer a couple of questions that have been nagging me over the years. First, I know that Seyna Seyn was filmed inside the freezing tube in the close-up shots (where she's pretending to be frozen and they have used hair spray on her hair to make it look like it is floating in the transperent preservative fluid that has frozen solid around her body) but I was wondering if, in the long shots (when the cable clamps onto the tube containing Miss Soong and the tube is hoisted into the air and carried off), they might have used a dummy. I realize a maniquin wasn't used in the close up shots of her in the tube but it looks like one might have been used in the long distance shots (the tube was kinda fogged up anyway so it would be hard to tell from a distance). Studios rooteenly make life-casts of actors faces, heads, even their whole bodies in some cases, in order to perform make up tests or what ever (so that the studio make-up artist's don't have to force the poor actors to sit in the make-up chair for days while they try to get the make-up design right). These life casts are highly detailed (right down to the poors of the skin). It would be an easy task (even in the sixties) for the studios to assemble a maniquin that looked just like the actress useing this method (and I think this has been done in other films). So, I was wondering weather or not you knew if a maniquin of Seyna Seyn might have been fashioned for the long-distance shot of the tube being carried up and away (I could certainly understand why they wouldn't want Seyna Seyn being hoisted up in the air by a cable; why they would use a maniquin for safty perposes!). What do you think? If this were true, you realize what this means don't you? That is, in some studio vault or whear-house or in some private collection somewhere there might actualy be a 3-diminsional reproduction of Seyna Seyns face and body made out of fiber-glass and assembled into a special effects statue (that's what the studio special effects departments make these things out of!) and painted with life like flesh tones! So maybe, in a sense, your dream of Seyna Seyn being frozen at the age of twenty-five might be true! Man, now that's something I'd LOVE to see on Ebay!!!!!!!!!!!!lol Something to think about anyway.