Wow! This is great!!! I think you've tapped into something interesting about human psycology here! Wish I'd seen Lee Meriwether in her slip! Your coment about the kid in the add is interesting. OK, here's my entry into the collection of women being undressed and made to look silly. I remember somthing simalar on an old episode of SPACE:1999 which involved the actress Barbara Bain (who was the star of the show, together with her then husband, Martin Landau). The SPACE:1999 episode was from the first season and entitled MISSION OF THE DARIANS. Barbara Bain played a doctor (Dr. Helena Russel) on a moonbase. The moon is hurled out of earth orbit by a nuclear explotion and every human being on the moonbase is hurled away with it. The moonbase is called moonbase Alpha and the humans on the base refere to themselves as Alphans. As the moon is moving through the universe it crosses pathes with an alien space-ship that is five miles long! It's inhabited by a race that calls themselves the Darians. The Darians look exactly like humans. However, large portions of their ship have been devistated by nuclear explotions. All this info is transmited to the Alphan's via a distress signal. The Alphan's assemble a rescew mission. Dr. Helena Russel (Played by Barbara Bain)is sent to head the mission. To make a long story short, the Alphans discover that the Darians are split up between a minority of the population which survives on canabalizing mutant survivors and is civilized, and the vast majority who have been mutated by the ill effects of the radiation. The 'mutants' capture Dr. Russel. However, the mutants have no idea that she is from another world and trying to help. The mutants are totaly uncivilized and superstitious savages! They kill her orderly because he has an amputated finger (thinking this is a birthdefect and he's a mutant)and then they examine her. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID MY FRIENDS AND I USED TO WATCH THIS EPISODE and we all USED TO LAUGH AT DR. RUSSELS WIMPERING! Indeed, it's a funny scene because Barbara Bain wimpers and crys and pleeds with them like Miss Soong (No, don't, please!). At first she was so calm and unemotional and a professional doctor in charge of a rescew mission but, later, AFTER SHE IS MANHANLED BY THE SAVAGE MUTANTS (like Miss Soong was manhandled by the guards in KTGAMTD)and she sees her orderly killed, she completely falls apart emotionaly (just like Miss Soong). Dr. Russel is brought before the highpreist who smiles at her (he reminds me of the LITTLE BLOND CREEPY GUY-I SWEAR!)and SLOWLY AND DELIBERATELY caresses her face with his dirty hands (I'ts clear from Barbara Bain's performance that she doens't like being touched by him and she finds him revulting!lol! This guy really is even more creepy then THE LITTLE BLOND CREEPY GUY from KTGAMTD!lol!) and looks at her hands (front and back). He then pronounces her "CLEAR!" They strip her naked (agin like miss Soong) and examine her body further (but the total nudity is off camera) and she is found to be a 'perfect human specimen' and thus worthy for sacrifice. So the mutants seek to sacrifice her to their god (who, in reality, is the LEADER of the 'Civilized Darians' masqurading as a diety and tricking the mutants into providing him and his people with mutant bodies to be used for 'genetic engenearing', organ transplants, and 'food'.). Anyway, the mutant high-priest calls for Dr. Russel and she emerges on camera once again, but now sans her moonbase uniform, and whearing what looks like a cross between a short, skimpy, tatered black slip and a sexy baby-doll nighty! She really looks barely dressed. Her arms, legs and thighs are bare (with lots of cleavage vissible in front) and she meekly walks barefoot (A SYMBLE OF HUMILIATION) toward the CREEPY highpriest who had fondled her in the previous scene. The scene of her walking toward and eventualy stoping in front of the mutant high priest takes a long time and the other mutants (a whole tribe) are oggleing her the whole time (the doctor has been reduced to a sex-object/sacrfice) The highpriest, in turn, examines her further, coments on what a 'perfect body' she has, and sends for the gods (the civilized Darian's in space suits) to claim her. When she emerges in her little costume she's very meek, obedient (and scaired!)and silent, but when the Civilized Darian's show up in spacesuits she starts in wimpering and pleading again (NO...DON'T...PLEASE-NO!"lol!). I think Miss Soong wimpered, pleaded and freeked when they came at her with the hyperdermic because she thought it was full of something that would kill her. That's how they kill criminals after all. But I think Dr. Russel started freaking out and wimpering when she saw the Civilized Darian's in their spacesuits because she probably feared they were dressed that way to throw her out an air lock or something!LOL! She had already seen her Orderly killed, after all. Anyway, I thought it was interesting because, Barbara Bain was on MISSION IMPOSSIBLE aswell. Also, the scenes involved mutant dwarfs who had been befreinded by Dr. Russel prior to her abduction. They aren't little kids (like in the add you mention) but they were pretty short!!! LOL! It's also interesting that Dr. Russel is taken by the Darian's (after she wimpers, crys, and says "NO, don't...Please" several more times!)to their laboratory and placed into, YOU GUESSED IT, suspended animation (AGAIN, JUST LIKE MISS SOONG!). There, a genetic sample would be presumably taken and deposited into a Darian gene bank (to aid the civilized Darian's in their attempts to create a new geneticaly engeneared Darian race [free of mutation]to, in turn, repair the spaceship and carry on with the Darian Mission to colonize a new world) while her organs would presumably be harvested for organ transplants (which keep the civilized Darian's alive for hundreds of years). After that, what was left of her remains would be transformed into a type of synthetic food additive along the lines of something out of the film SOYLENT GREEN!lol! Yes, the civilzied Darian's were canables who let nothing go to waste!LOL! Also, a quick note, it's interesting that Helena Russel is examined and chosen as a 'geneticaly superior specimen'just as Wilma Soong was. It's interesting that the Civilized Darians place Dr. Russel into suspended animation (just like Ardonian places Wilma Soong into suspended animation) and plan to use her genetic material to build a master race via genetic engenearing (just as Ardonian plans to use his harem girls to build a master race via selective breeding-with himself as the only mail sperm doner.). So we have these themes of eugenics and 'perfect female specimens'in both the SPACE:1999 episode and in KTGAMTD. Well, Dr. Russel is rescewed at the end of the episode and the series went on for another season. It's interesting that after Dr. Russel is rescewed she's seen whearing a red blanket (which reminds me of Wilma Soongs Yellow Kimono!LOL!) Anyway, this episode is my favorite SPACE:1999 and just about it's darkest episode. It was written at a time when organ transplants were brand new and people had a lot of fear about the new science. Also, the episode was filmed in 1975, just thirty-years after WORLD WAR II and people still remembered the Nazi's and their practices of EUGENICS or the desire to find 'perfect human specimens' in order to build a master race. So the episode exploits those kinds of fears as well. It also had scenes of a professional woman (like Miss Soong)named Dr. Helena Russle who, in turn, prides herself on being in control, clinicle, unemotional, and a professional physisian, being stripped, humiliated, turned into a sex object and made a fool of (as she's reduced to crying and wimpering like a school girl and pleeding for her life)and sumarily examined and placed into suspended animation (as if she were a lab rat in a scientific experiment). THE PARALLELS TO THE FATE OF MISS SOONG IN KISS THE GIRLS AND MAKE THEM DIE ARE ALMOST TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE. Is this some kind of mass Psycoses here?!!! Again, no children but mutant dwarfs!LOL! SO IT LOOKS LIKE A PATTERN IS DEVELOPING HERE BETWEEN THE FILMS AND COMERICIALS ALL OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED AND THE EXAMPLE I'VE LISTED! Granted, Noone laghed at Dr. Russel in the episode but my friends and I did laugh at Barbara Bain's wimpering when we watched the episode (I think because this behavior was so uncharacteristic for her; she usualy acted so cool, calm and professional as the character of Dr. Russel on SPACE:1999).
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BARBARA BAIN was in her early forties when she played Dr. Helena Russel, so it was kinda odd to see her in this sexy barely there costume that her character was forced to whear in the SPACE:1999 episode MISSION OF THE DARIANS (as if she were some young starlet). Her wimpering and childish behavior made it even more strange.LOL! But, I have to admit, it fit the character (someone who's in control on the surface because she's a Medical profesional, but, deep down, is emotionaly vulnerable and frieghtend). Something kinda sexy in that.lol!
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Hope nobody brings up SPANKY'S MA in the LITTLE RASCAL'S SHORT: "BEGINER'S LUCK!"LOL!(Just kidding. Bring up whatever you like. Just PLEASE try to tie it into the character of MISS SOONG!. THATAWAY WE'LL AT LEAST STAY ON TOPIC!
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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jack-677
18 years ago
Hi Guys ,I'm going to respond with 4 different posts as they cover 4 differnt subjects and I don't want to put a post on that you could read all day.
1.waste 1999 -Mission of the Darians - I remember this episode as I saw it twice on TV.The gentleman in the previous posts said him and his friends laughed at it,they wern't the only ones.Space 1999 was heaily advertised to be better that the original Star Trek and was a flop.
Mission of the Darians was made to show the vunerability of Dr Russell ,as her character was to stiff and aloof.This was done to boost ratings on this epic disaster.I remember her wearing her slip/teddy outfit and her crying and whimpering .But the most bizzare scene eas when she was put into suspended animation they put her intoa small clear box .She was nude but only shown from the shoulders up.She was squatting or kneeling with her head tilted up eyes looking up and mouth open,she looked completly ridiculas.They tried to improve ratings but Barbara was 7-8 yrs past her Mission Impossible role and way too old .
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jack-677
18 years ago
2 Lee Meriwether
About a yr after she did her Mission Impossible episode she appeared on the Merv Griffen show.She went on with her husband who later did the Emergency show ,the grey haired guy.Merv was talking about older actresses having a hard time finding work (consider she was only 35 and considered older at the time).Merv talked about Angie Dickenson appearing nude in a film called Pretty maids all in a row,and wound up getting her own TV show for doing it.
Anyway Merv asked Lee if she would or would consider doing a nude scene or a sex scene,as these were roles that were avaible for women at the time .Lee told the story that she had never done a nude scene and most she was undressed was the Mission Impossible episode.But she had recieved a script for a movie where she would do her first nude scene.Lee said the part gave her artistic character and her husband agreed.She says she was to play a high school teacher ina small town.She fails two kids and they plan their revenge.They drug her and set her up to be made a laughing stock of .At a very large gathering with the whole town there at a formal event.Miss Meriwether was to be wheeled out drugged ,naked on a large silver platter.She was to be in a Sphnix pose.Her body was to be glazed with salad and fruits all over her.Her eyes open with an apple in her mouth.The audience of the Merv show burst out in laughter not with her but at her.She had no idea they were laughing at her and keept on going with the story .She eventually turned down the role as her teenage children asked her not to do it.She said when she turned it down Stella Stevens grabbed the role.The project was cancelled and axed later on.
But what was Lee Meriwether thinking ,after all she was once Miss America and this is before her days with Barnaby Jones.
My friends and I talked about this for a long time as we were amazaed she would consider putting herself up ther nude and glazed like a donut??
Lee really made a complete laughing stock out of herself with this one.Could imagine anyone going on film with a bare assed glazed ass and an apple in her mouth? What was she thinking???
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jack-677
18 years ago
3 Beginner's luck -The Little Rascals.
The previous poster asked for this one not to be mentioned I don't know why but it is revelant to the entire board of girls being stripped and humiliated.
I actually studied this short in a grad school course .This was brought up as a study of power.Spanky's mom rushes to save her son from being laughed at on stage as the gang is pelting him with peashooters and razzing him with noisemakers.She tries to drag him off with a pole from behind a curtain and winds up getting her dress caught on a rising curtain and ripped off.I never fround this one to be erotic but a lot of guys do.I thought she was too old and not that attractive .
Anyway she is frozen on stage with shock as the audience now laughs at her and Spanky rushes this prop the shield her but it has a dogs body on it with her head fitting nicely ontop of the dogs body.
So not only is she stripped but made a complete laughing stock of with the prop and this happens in front of her son.
The professor pointed out that the producers probaly had a belly full of Stage mothers and decided to get even with this outrageous ending.
The most interesting thing the professor said was the pose the mother is in while she kneels on stage behind the prop .Her head is tilted up her eyes are looking up at the cieling her mouth is open,the prop body is a squatting dog with it's hind legs spread.The professor showed us step by step this was all signs of a female in sexual surrender to any man who is watching.He pointed out of course this was exeragrated in this short but everyting was there including the woman being much shorter than th e man.This is going to be addressed agin in 4.
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jt74455
18 years ago
There is an interesting point here.I read an article written by Hugh heffner a number of yrs ago.It seems that in the 50 's and 60's alott of his playmates were actually single moms .This point was hidden at the time just saying the girls were single.Stella Stevens was a playmate in 1960 and agian posed for him in 1965 and 1968.She was a divorced mother all along.When she first posed her son was 7 and when she last posed he was 15 and man did he ever get it bad.He was teased by his school mates and beaten up a couple of times in school.Stella thought her posing would help her career and did offer to do it more times even though her son was a target as his mother was a nudie.
Heffner later found out there was an erotic element if the girl was a mother ,it added greatly to her being nude especially if she had a boy.He said later if he had only known it he would have used this piece of info in their photo spreads.
maybe thats why the mom getting it in front of a young son adds to the eroticism of the scene.
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jt74455
18 years ago
Real good job TX-9 with Mission of the Darians in Space 1999.Dr Helena Russell was a very unemotional character.The producers pulled out all stops trying to put upa real sexy episode ,as far as they could at the time.But it would up making a complete laughing stock out of Barbara Bain.I'll bet she wishes she never did that show.I never realized there was so much coincidences with Miss Soong .
I do remember the Merv show with Lee Meriwether.That was the biggest laughing stock anyone ever made of themselves until Farrah did Dave Letterman about 5 yrs ago.I often wondered if she was serious or was the whole thing a publicity stunt?I actually would have loved to see her do it and I would love to see Stella Stevens do it too!!!!.That would have been great.
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jack-677
18 years ago
It's funny you brougt up Stella Stevens as a playmate and a celebrity nude as she was the one who was to take over the scene that Lee Meriwether turned down.I wonder how her son would have been treated by his schoolmates if she did it and appeared like a stuffed pig at a banquet.Her body galzed and with fruits and vegitables around her with a apple in her mouth nude on a platter.I bet they would have really given him a real hard time as thats worse than just posing nude.I wish both did the scene I would love to see both of them also posed like that -it would have been great.
4 Baretta
I watched this during a blizzard which knocked out TV but we could watch videos,but there was a large group of people watching it with me..It was a 2 hr show done in the last yr it was on the air.People thought they did this to boost ratings.Sound Familar.
It starts with a corrections officer( an old man)driving a bus and opening the doors for another officer (who is a lady).Both are wearing uniforms ,the girl is wearing dress that is about knee lenght with a hat.The girl is a Farrah Faucet lookalike.They greet each other as she boards and she says do you want to see photos of my son .She shows him pictues and says she doesn't like to be away from him as she is a single mom (sound familar) and has no one but her mom to leave him with when she works.The boy is about 6-8 yrs old.
Their assignment is to take a group of 10 convicts to anothe facility.
The convicts board and jump the gurds ata preset location .They have a group of accomplices waiting at a building they all go into and they hit the ld man over the head with a pistol and really hurt him bad.The lady gurd goes right to his aide and tried to help.The police come ,including Baretta and surrond the building.
The head convict comes up with an idea and tell the lady officer to stand up and come over to him ,he grabs her and rips her dress off amid catcalls ,whistles and laughter from the convicts.She is wearing a white slip( sound familar)that has a length a little above her kneees.She crouches down putting her arms crossed across her chest to hide her clevage.
The convicts have no mercy on this girl they are constantly grabbing her feeling her up and one makes her kiss him.
Barretta arrives in the building to negotiate and there is a veiw of the lady guard squattinng down by the side of the wounded old man .Her slip is way up her legs,her head titled back ,her eyes up at the ceiling and her mouth open.
The old man dies and Baretta rescues the girl by escaping down a sewer .The two of them running along her slip way up as she gets dirter and has grease fall on her.Asshe is saved by Baretta she tells him she must reward him for saving her.They wind up at dinner a few days later and she says to him she must reward him for saving her so she can raise her son .And they go off to his apartment.
Again if you notice this female sign of sexual surrender is using again.
The people who watched it all said it was "BONERVISION or JERK_OFF TV".
All said they used this starlet to raise ratings.Again she winds up in her slip ,is a single mom raising a son.All said she raised more than ratings and she was rasing more than her son whith this performance.
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steveb789
18 years ago
Hey TX-9 did you think Barbara Bain was degraded by that preformance?
Man I never heard this Lee Meriwether story before .I wish she had gone forward with it ,man would I love to see that.
And also I wish Stella Stevens did it too.Too bad about her kid ,she had no problems with it why should we???
I wonder how Miss Soong would look with a glazed body and an apple in her mouth!!!!!
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TX-9
18 years ago
Man, I never heard that Lee Meriweather/Merve Griffen story before. I think Merv is going to be on Larry Kind tonight. Maybe we should all call in and ask about it!LOL! I did see the Barretta episode your mentioning. I think it came out arround the same time as the Space:1999 episode MISSION OF THE DARIANS. I also thought the woman was degraded and humiliated by the crooks; a cheap stunt to boost ratings. I ENJOYED EVERY MINUIT OF IT!LOL!
This business of a woman lieing with her head back and her mouth opened (which we would have seen with Lee Merriweather or Stella Stevens had they done the film [and which we did see with Spanky's Ma in "BEGINNERS LUCK")as a universal sign of 'sexual submission' to a man is something I've never heard of before. Interesting theory. Regarding MISSION OF THE DARIANS, I do remember the scene in which Helena Russel (played by Barbara Bain) is taken to the lab and found in 'suspended animation.' She is uncounscous amid all these naked men and women. Helena is still whearing her black tattered Darian slip (which was really short. It went right up to her crotch and gave the impression she wasn't whearing anything under it-no panties!). The alphans discover her laying on her back, on a table. They force the Darian's to revive her with some gizmo that fits over her forehead. That was an interesting scene. When they place the gizmo over her forhead the scene is shot at an angle that shows the top of her head and LOOKS RIGHT DOWN HER BREAST CLEAVAGE! SO AS HELENA IS BEING REVIVED AND STARTS BREATING IN AND OUT WE SEE THE SEXY SCENE OF BARBARA BAIN'S CLEAVAGE HEAVING UP AND DOWN!LOL! I thought this was hot!!!!!!!
Steve, you asked me if I thought Barbara Bain was degraded in this scene. Well, when I was a kid I thought her wimpering and crying like a little school girl was pretty funny. Today, I'm not sure why she played the scene that way since the character of Dr. Russel was famous for being unemotional and professional and perhaps even afraid of showing her emotions (much like Miss Soong in that respect-keeping things on topic here!lol!). However, today, I enjoyed the episode for being so dark and gothic. It was almost a mini-horror movie dealing with mutant savages, RITUAL SACRIFICE, eugenics, illeagle harvesting for organ transplants, nuclear holocosts, NAZI like ideologies, NUDITY (lots of nude uncouscious Darians thrown over slabs like so many sides of beaf in the lab scene) and even (GASP!)CANABALISM! I thought Barbara showed a lot of spunk or courage doing a dareing episode like this (hard to believe this was filmed in 1975!). I have a theory that she was trying to peal back the layers of Dr. Russels personality like one would peel back the layers of an onion. I think she was attempting to show her audiance that the character of Dr. Russel may be cold, professional, and brave on the surface but, deep down, where it counts, she is, in reality, just a frieghtend little girl! (again like Miss Soong in a way). I kinda found that sexy; that these strong women are, deep down, really little girls. Guess thats rather sexist of me. I get tired of all these 'MAN-WOMEN' on TV shows today who are oh so politicaly correct and even tougher then the men! I know women like that-who are tough as nails-but most women are more like Helena Russel or Miss Soong (feel they have to be tough on the outside to be good feminists but deep down they are very much girly girls!LOL!). But while this is not politicaly correct I find it very endearing and heroic that these women would be so frieghtend deep inside but, somehow, they repress it, suck it up, and are able to project a cool, unemotional and professioanal deportment to the rest of the world and compete as professionals. So,no, while I thought her wimpering was funny as a kid, today I dont think she was degraded. I think it was Barbara Bains best episode (perhaps of her entire career!). It was certainly degrading for Helena Russel-the character (which is why I mentioned the episode) but for Barbara Bain the actress it was a great role! (IMHO). As for the gentleman who thought Barbara was too old to play that role, well, I thought she was hot in the role when I first saw it and I was only twelve years old! Today, being of more advanced years, I find many forty-one year old actresses sexy!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY PHOTOS OF THESE WOMEN PLEASE POSTE THEM HERE. I'M GOING TO HUNT DOWN SOME PHOTOS OF HELENA BEING HUMILIATED.
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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onestooges
18 years ago
I can recall a scene in a real grade Z movie that I saw in the movies in like the very late 70's .I don't remember the name of the film and none of the actors had household names .Anyway there is a scene with a mother driving her son in a car ,the boy is about 11-12 yrs old.The mother spots one of the boys teachers and tells the son she is going to take him to lunch ,the boy doesn't want to do this and wishes they just go on their way.However the mother insists and tells her son it's a good thing to learn how to "brownnose".They pull up and call out to this teacher,a short,bald man wearing glasses.he agrees and gets in the car .The mother is buttering him up all the way there ,the boy wishes he was anyplace else.Anyway they pull up at this small resturant which is very isolated it seems to be out in the woods.They go in and is set up cafeteria style ,the mother finds a table and they go up and get food.throughout the entire meal the mother is brownnoseing this teacher.The kid finishes his meal and goes of to a game room in the back.The kid is playing video games and the mother periodically looks over to check him out.While he is there a group of about 15 kids a little bit older enter the game room and start to look at the kid.It is apparent that the kid comes from a higher socio-econmic background than the group of kids.As this is going on ,back at the table the teacher is now oggling the mother nad puts his hand on her knee and starts to move it up along her leg.The mother is startled by this but she must be thinking doesshe go to bed with this guy to get her son a better grade?Anyway the group of kids come over to the boy and ask for his blazer ,the kid reluctently gives up his jacket.The mother sees this and jumps to her feet and rushes to aid her son.She comes at the gang very pompousley and demands they give her son back his blazer.The gang refuses and now demands that the mother take off her dress.She looks for someone to come to her aid but noone does.The mother is then shown removing her dress amid the laughter from the gang ,the employees of the cafeteria and the teacher watching as his eyes bulge with a huge smile on his face.The mother is standing there wearing only a white slip and being taunted by the gang with food from the counter.They put something into her mouth maybe it was an apple ,I don't remember.And they take icecream and rub it over her chest some drips down into her clevage.The head of the gang looks the mother over and says now lets get down to serious business.The next shot is from outside the resturant ,you hear howls of laughter comming from inside and the next thing you see is the door burst open and the kid and his mom emerge running out of there, both are totally naked.They run to the car and the mother falls in a pile of wet leaves and she gets covered with leaves and mud.The mother looks like lightning was shot up her butt.They bolt out of there at top speed.
The theater audience was erupting with howls of laughter at this scene .I never thought it was that funny seeing some womans 40 yr old T and A run accross the screen.I've talked to the people I saw this film with and no one remembers the name but everyone remebers the scene with the mother.I remembered this after reading the posts ,the apple in the mothers mouth,her loosing her dress ,her wearing only a slip as her kid stand s by watching this humiliation befall his mother for her stupid idea of buttering up this teacher.
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tommix-1
18 years ago
I remember that film too.I don't remember the name of it .But I will never forget that scene.The first thing that went wrong for this woman was when the teacher puts his hand on her knee ,she really didn't know what to do .She never expected that happening and the look on her face suggests that she was thinking she was going to let this creepy geeky teacher do this and thinking she was going to wind up sleeping with him to get her son a better grade.
Then for the classic when she stupidly goes over the the kids and demands they give the boy back his coat.She goes from an authority figure yeilding a lot of power to a laughing stock .The shot of the teacher ,eyes bulging and a huge smile on his face as he is really enjoying watching this woman get hers.Then she becomes so meek as she takes her dress off.
What a scene !!!!!! I had no problems watching the mother's 40 yr old tits and ass run across the screen.Man that was the most humiliating and degrading scene I hav ever watched.I wish this was on cable but no one I know has ever seen it on TV.
The laughter or should I say Howling laughter I think add greatly to the complete humiliation of the mother .When the leader of the group says to the mother now lets get down to seriuos businnes he has this wicked smile on his face and she looks like she knows what they are going to do next.
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onestooges
18 years ago
The one thing that I find so strange about this is when the mother goes to the gang and demands the jacket back ,why does she agree to do as they ask by removing her dress ? After all they don't have weapons ,what were they going to do to them if she didn't agree.Why doesn't anyone come to her aide? Why does the mother go from her figure of authority to allowing herself to have this done to her,she sheepishly starts to take her dress off.
Another point why did the producers only show the initial scene of her removing her dress and the kids playing with her with food.
Did they put more food on her as she removes all the clothes?How did they strip the kid?
I agree the the howling laughter really makes this scene .
But I have to agree this is the mosthumiliating scene I have ever seen.
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tommix-1
18 years ago
it's fuuny this was a real bad movie with one unforgetable scene,just like "Excalibur" no guy has ever forget the rape of Egarine scene buy Uther,no one ever forgets him raping her as she is nude and he is totally clad in armor.
There was one guy who was a movie buff and I worked with him about 10-15 yrs ago he remembers the scene as well .These are some of the things he remembers.
He thought the actress whp plays the mother was Melissa Dillon ,who a couple of yrs later played the mother in the Christmas story.I've checked this and she doen't seem to ahve done a movie like this around that time,so I believe he is mistaken.
He said as they run out of the resturant the mother's body has a gleem or a shine to it.He speculates that the gang ,as they were playing with her with food gave the mother a body rub down with butter.It could be but no one remembers her body having a scheen to it .So no one really knows if they made a buttered woman out of her.His speculation said that is the reason the mother falls down as her body is all greased up.
He speculates that they cut away from the scene inside the restursnat/cafeteria and let the imagintion go to work as what was done to the kid and his mom.So what was done to them later? Well they had to make both strip as they leave th e place nude.This guy speculated that once the mother was stripped nude they would have had to do something else .They wouldn't rape her as that was too severe but he believes that the mother was forced to her knees and made to preform an oral presentation on the gang leader.Could yoy imagine the kid looking on as his nude mother must blow yankee doodle on that guys organ????
Of course this is all speculation and no one knows but it could be.
The reason the mother goes from an authoruty figure so meekly and sheepishly is she is afraid they will hurt her or her son.
But I beleive it is a socio-econmic scene where the wealther people are degarded by the poorer .It is real working class hero stuff.
Finally I agree it would have been sexier if the kid was with his gorgeous 20yr old sister and this scene happened but seeing his mom ( who could have been 35 maybe) have this happen to her was great!!!!!!!Maybe her body was all greased up and it made her look even sexier as she ran to their car T & A all moving so so nicely as she runs and then falls in the leaves.
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TX-9
18 years ago
OK, IN CASE ANYONE IS INTERETED, L0TS OF PHOTOS OF BARBARA BAIN BEING MANHANDLED, FONDELED, GROPED, HUMILIATED, AND FORCED TO WHEARE A VERY SKIMPY TATERED OUTFIT. Just google: Space 1999 catacombs:Mission of the Darians Episode Guide. Then just scroll down to the bottom of that webpage and click on 'emages' and you'll see all the screen captures from the episode!
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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steveb789
18 years ago
Wow is all I have to say ,I can't beleive the things you guys have come up with.I remember the Baretta episode and I agree with TX-9 it was a cheap way to get ratings but I enjoyed every minute of it!.It is great but I never thought it was that great.I think JACK has made a mistake on his Mission of the Darians ,he doesn't seem to be on the same page maybe he confused it with something else.This untitled movie seems vaguely familar ,I've called some of my friends who love this stuff too and they all are saying the same thing something sounds familar about it,but if any of us saw this i'm sure we'd remember it.Someone said is it possible that this scene was removed from the TV film? I think the guy who had the friend who speculated about what happened had a very vivid imagation.Then again if the scene was cut the way they say I guess they left it to the viewer to add anything he wants.But giving the mother an all body butter massage seems wild.But anything could be done and she did wind up without any clothes on and they were playing with her with food.I wish I had seen this scene or at least someone could come up with a title so I could look for it.But the guys I spoke with today all say the same thing they put this in as a comedic scene with a silly woman being taught a very degrading and embarrassing lesson for being pushy and trying to brownose a teacher and having him grope her as sex object,then to have her interfere with the older group of kids as they bullied her son only to be made a complete laughing stock of herself.Hey maybe she was actually buttered up to make light of her trying to butter up the teacher.But again this is something I definatly want to see ,as it sounds like it tops the charts and a striped and degraded scene.
It is definatley an interesting point that was brought up about having a girl being striped and degarded and having her son watch helplessly making the entire scene more erotic.I have been discussing this point with some people and most agree it does make it more erotic but no one is saying exactly why?
I had never heard the Lee meriwether story before but man would I love to see that.Stella Stevens is one of my favorites and i'd love to have seen her like that too.
Another very interesting point that no one has brought up is sometimes very successful, powerful and beautiful women( Miss Soong & Dr Russell) want to be degarded and humiliated.Most of the above stories involve women being stripped ,some only to their slips some nude ,but I know it sounds crazy some actually really get off on it.there is a woman I know from my neiborhood who is a very successful corporate lawyer she is also extremely beautiful ,anyway she got divorced after 10 yrs of marriage and 2 kids.About 2 yrs after her divorce she voluntered for ameteur nite at a strip club .No one knew except some of her girlfriends every guy wished they were there to see that.But there she was bumping and grindimg away and she loved every minute of it.Seems strange,but true.
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jt74455
18 years ago
I never saw the "untitled film" but certainly after reading the 4 posts I wish I did it seems to be a howler to be sure.Man having hs mother come to his aid only to have it backfire and she winds up stripped and the two of them running nude out of the resturant amid howls of laughter it sounds like it tops evrything .
I read TX-9 's post where he saw the Baretta episode too and said it was a cheap way of getting ratings and it made me think of another.There was a movie used as a inticer for a TV series and it was shown at the beginning of the season.The TV show was dragnet and the film was called Dragnet 1967 or 68 .Anyway Dragnet had been a very successful show in the 50s but when it aired again in the 60s it had a terrible first season.This movie was the start of the second season and they pulled out all stops to make people watch it .
The movie opens up with a very pretty young girl saying to her family "oh my date is here " and she scurries about kissing her mom and her very young son ( may 3) and dashes out the door .The date ,even thou it was a blind date ,only pulled up in his car and honked the horn.
The film does into different directions and when they come back to this story the girls brother is filing a missing persons report on his sister.He tells the police his sister is a widow as her husabnd was killed in Vietnam and she was looking to meet someone and this was her very first date.
The police inform him there are now four missing girls .The brother tells the police that his sister met this guy at a dating service or lonley hearts club.The club owner is the obnoxiuos woman who refuses to help the police and won't reviel who the girl dated on her last night she was seen.
When the police finally capture this guy he tells them everything,he wanted to get married and lured the 4 girls to a studio he set up in a cave .The girls went thinking they were going to pose for publicity photos and this guy was going to make them models.He does take millions of photos of each girl then he proposes to them and they think hes kidding and he winds up strangeling them to death.He shows the police photos her has taken of each girl and then shots of them being bound and gagged lying on a blaneket he has placed on the cave floor.The first girl that was shown leaving her home to go out with this guy is shown first with a shot he took as she is posing for modeling the second is her bound and gagged and sitting on the blankrt ,the third she is shown wearing a slip and lying bound and gagged on the blanket.He inform the police he has taken a 35 minute long film of this girl.
I read a review of this which went into great detail it said the reason the girl was missing her dress in the last shot was because he had raped her and thats what the film was him raping her.But generally it blasted the producers for using this lurid tale to raise ratings .
I myself felt very sick after watching this and of course reading the review and getting a better unstanding.I actually hated it as it was so sick.
Atleast the others were all comidies and enjoyable .
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jt74455
18 years ago
Steve and Tx have brought up interesting points about woman who are powerful are really little girls and somethings they love being degarded.Well ,from my experiance I think all women want to be humiliated sometimes and some women want to be degraded all the time.
Steve brought up the successful lady who is a corporate laywer and did an ametuer nite appeareance at a strip club .Well I know a very beautiful woman who is extremely successful and very happily married.She is alos a lawyer and she about 43 .Her husband ,whom she's been married to for about 8 yrs is an assistant mechanic at a garage.It strikes everyone strange that this girl is married to such a dud .But they are very happy together.Their secret ,he is into S& M and so must she too.Anyway he does have her wear the black stockings and all the garb and she is given frequent spankings .He does make her wear very very sexy clothing ( of course not at work) but at social occasions.She will say to people " My husband made me wear this" .This case has perplexed a lot of people we know but she must be into being scared of her husband and he is THE BOSS and she does as she is told and really enjoys it.The reason everyone knows about it is the both talk about all the things she is made to do .And of course she wimpers and cries alot .
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steveb789
18 years ago
Ok I believe we have heard all the stories about girls being humiliated on screen ,some I love ,others I consider OK and some I wish I saw.
It's now time for our leader to give us his ideas of some posts.Tx-9 is the specialist who really runs this board and gives great posts and great insight.
Whats your read of the Lee Meriwether scene she only spoke about and of course what do you think of the "untitled movie".
I know it's difficult as one scene was never shot and the other no one except these 2 guys ever saw.I know it's hard to do as I did it last nite.
Also which scene of all those listed is the best and which is the most degrading and which is the funniest and which is the most erotic?
It's a big order for you TX but you can do it pal!
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steveb789
18 years ago
Well I may had gotten something .Since this guy asked me to gethim a copy of KTGAMTD I been contacting a lot of people .I also since yesterday have been asking anyone if they have ever heard of this "untitled movie".Someone reminded me of this guy I used to know a long time ago ,he is definatly an excentric ,to say the least ,when I knew him he never saw the light of day.This guy could tell you all nude scenes and underwear scenes by any actress.He was a little scary.
Well I called hin this morning and yes he remembers the scene ,he told me the movie came out in 1979 and ran only about 3 wks in the movies.He said a friend saw it and knew he would love it and told him he had to see it.He also cannot remember the name and cannot remember the actress but says it is not MELINDA dillon.But he did give me the movies she appeared in nude.The movie has never been on VHS or DVD.
So everyone who saw it had to see the scene at the movies.I read him the posts concerning it and he agrees it is only anyones speculation as to what they did to her after her dress came off.But the one thing that he belives is true after not seeing this for almost 30 yrs! is the fact the mother was given a "lube job" by the gang.that is he thinks they did butter her up.He said it ranks up there as one of the most degarding scenes in history and whatever actress did it must have really needed the money.He said adding a son to a girl being humiliated lends a perverse erotic element to it.A mother is suppossed to be sacred and off limits ,this fim has the mother going to aide her son and wind up getting herself into a mortifying position,the son has to stand by helpless and watch as everyone laughs at her.
He was able to tell me more about other parts of the film .he said the mother made herself look like pompous ass throughtout the film.He thinks the son went to an elite prep school and the blazer was the prep school blazer .So the gang taking his jacket symbolized the poor taking something special away from the rich.These kids went to public school and wanted to give it to the prep school kid.He said normally the mother should have just grabbed the kid and run out of the diner instead of comming on like gangbusters at the kids.It is a symbol of the poor getting away with it.The mother is an authority figure who is reduced to a sex slave and oggled as a sex object.he said the kid would wind uo in analysis for years after seeing that.He told me this whole scene ran in about 10-15 minutes and could have easily been cut out for TV.
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TX-9
18 years ago
Hey Steve, thanks for the complements! I don't think I run the board however. I'm just extreamly enthusuastic (not to mention 'long-winded'!LOL!). The 'Untitled film' with the obnoxious mother being stripped and humiliated along with her 'richie-rich' prep-school blazer whearing son might be errotic (if the mother was attractive). I don't really find mothers being stripped in front of their sons erotic persay. However, look at all the sordid news coverage of these beautiful young teachers having sex with their under age students. I think a lot of us remember what it was like to be horny kids and how we would fantasize about making it with a teacher. Hense the press (which is in the business of making money) sensationalizes such stories. But we know its just pandering because they only cover the stories in which the female teacher is attractive. If it's an ugly teacher who has saduced an underage student the press almost never covers the story. SO THE PRESS IS JUST PANDERING TO MALE FANTACY'S (in order to boost ratings). Society is sick; the press is sick! BUT ALL OF US ARE NORMAL!!!!!!!!!LOL! So the public eats this stuff up. So I think the whole idea of a kid seeing a beautiful adult female authority figure (either a mother or teacher or someone else) as, sudenly, erotic, is a theme that shows up in films as well as in the media. This idea that the kid is realizeing his secret fantacy. MAYBE WE ADULT MEN RETAIN THIS FANTACY AND THAT IS WHY WE LIKE SEEING WOMEN WHO ARE AUTHORITY FIGURES BECOME SEXUAL!LOL Now, Sigmond Freud always insisted that all boys secretly want to kill their fathers and merry their mothers or mother figures. I don't know. But Freud said it so maybe there is something to it (the Oedipus Complex for boys and the Electra complex for girls). So I think, true or not, thats why you see these types of things in films. I think thats why these stories about beautiful teachers saducing underage kids (which I'm sick of hearing BTW) are pushed and exploited by the greedy tabloid (and even mainstream) press. But, IF YOU'LL PARDON ME FOR SHIFTING GEARS,ONWARD TO ANOTHER TOPIC. With respect to Lee Meriweather's proposed (but never filmed) nude scene: Any oportunaty to see Lee Meriweather in the buff is erotic (IN her day the woman was a GODDESS!). Having her served naked on a silver plater is, well, REALLY A STRANGE THOUGHT. A main stream actress and former Miss America;well, that would be disturbing. Would it also be erotic? I don't know. I'd actualy have to see it to make up my mind (but I would suspect it would be simply because the prospect of Lee Meriweather nude is erotic period!). But it would definately be disturbing. It reminds me of a scene from a movie entitled GALAXY OF TERROR in which a spaceship crew from earth is traped in an alien structure that forces the crew members to confront their worst fears. Well, this one woman (a scientist played by a lovely blond actress named TAFFE O'CONNEL)named Dameia who is rather attractive but afraid of her sexuality (she's a bit of a prude) has a fear of insects. However, the fear of insects is merely an uncounscous metaphore for her actual fear which is a FEAR OF SEX. So while she is exploring this alien structure on this other planet she happens accross the dead body of one of her fellow crewmembers. The dead crewman has deep wounds in his body that are infested with magots (remember what I said about her fear of insects and how this is a metaphor for her deeper fear of sex!). Well her reaction is predictable;SHE FREAKS! She's no longer the logical and disaplined scientist. She's scared out of her wits. One of the magots starts to grow, and grow and grow into an enormous larva. The larva is slimy and grotesque and looks like a giant mutant phalas! The larva develops legs and pincers and chases her down. Somehow the thing gets Damia down on the ground and starts excreting a slimy substance all over her spacesuit. It's mandible like arms begin carresing her as it countinues to excreate slime all over her. First her space-pressure-suit and then her uniform begin to disentagrate untill she is completely naked and covered with slime (while being vigerously rubbed down and washed in slime by the mandible legs of this giant slimy slug). We ACTUALY see the thing sexualy lubricating her with its slimy tenticals violently wipping and rubbing between her legs. It was disgusting and erotic all at the same time! The Dameia character is being raped and murdered by a giant worm! The woman ends up dead (her heart my have given out from the shock). It's intersting how the lady scientist's unconscious is pealed away one layer at a time untill she faces her real or 'core' secret fear. On the first layer-the more superphicial level, she is afraid of insects. But the fear of insects is merely a mask for her more profound or deeper fear of sex, and lastly her fear of sex merely masks her deepest, most more fear of all; HER FEAR OF DEATH! This was very disturbing. It makes you wonder about the people who write this stuff. They're coming from a very dark place indeed.
Another film I remember, was the 1970 Lovecraftian horror film: THE DUNWICH HORROR. It's on the IMDB (as is GALAXY OF TERROR for that matter) so I'll let you all look it up if your interested in the details (BOTH "THE DUNWICH HORROR" AND "GALAXY OF TERROR" ARE OUT ON DVD!!!). But one scene (possibly the best scene in the film) involved a tall, dark (long beautiful raven tresses!) and extreamly beautiful graduate student who looks to be in her early twenties (and played by actress Donna Baccala). I MENTION IT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK THE ACTRESS HUMILATED HERSELF IN THIS SCENE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES HER BEING STRIPPED NAKED WHILE BEING WIPPED AND PELTED WITH RUBBER TINTICLES AND SNAKE HEADS! However, I personaly thought the scene worked BECAUSE OF THE EARY STROBE LIGHT EFFECT, MUSIC AND SOUND EFFECTS (and Baccala's terrific acting as a rape victom!). This gradute student (Baccala) is named ELIZABETH HAMMILTON and she hales from prestegious MYSKATONIC UNIVERSITY (a prestegous North Eastern Ivy leage college). Elizabeth drives up to this creepy old house looking for her roomate; a girl named Nancy Wagoner (played by the late Sandra Dee). The house and its occupants (a family of ocultists) have a bad reputation in this little Christian comunity of Dunwich. The ELIZABETH (BACCALA) is really pushy and disrespecful. She just barges in to the house demanding to know where her friend is. She is really obnoxious. She suspects something isn't quite right (but little does she know just how un-right things really are about to become!) but instead of getting help she goes barging over there alone (super-feminist to the rescue!). She finds out from a frail old man that the Sandra Dee character is off with his creepy nephew. Well, the Donna Baccala character just doesn't beleive the old man when he says her friend isnt there, and goes barging upstairs. She comes to a locked room. The old man is terrified for her (for the beautiful but obnoxious Bacala) and frantic to save her life. He warns the grad student not to open the door. The ELIZABETH grabs the old man and litteraly throws him against a wall. I thought this was really cruel (a tall, young, and healthy woman abusing a frail old man)! So she pushes the old man aside like a rag doll, opens the door and barges in. To her horor the door closes and a strobe light effect occures (which is psycadelic and scarry but also wonderful filmaking; a wonderful effect that's worth the price of admition. I can see kids and young adults in the movie theaters of 1970 dropping acid durring this scene!lol!). The strobe light effect represents brilliantly the non-corporial and utterly alien and terrifying nature of her assailent. As the frames rapidly progress in lightning fashion from light to dark (in a strobe fashion, really) we see her in various stages of undress (as the creatue is violently ripping her clothes from her struggling and body!). First she is whearing her trench-coat and a long scarf and screaming as the strobe effect occures for several frames. Then black. Then we see the long scarf being pulled off from around her neck as the strob light effect continues to shift from an emage to darkness rather intermetently. We see her trench coat being ripped from her amid more strobe lighting, untill she is whearing her blouse-rapid strobe lighting for several more frmes-then black-then nothing but her bra, then black, lastly she's naked (you can see her breasts/nipples {which are magnificent BTW])and screaming. She's screaming and terrified durring the whole rape (I can't impress enough how realistic and terrifying Bacala's performance of being violently violated and terrified is). I don't know how she gave such a realistic performance unless it had something to do with her being stripped on campera amid strobe lighting and being pelted and wipped with long rubber tenticles and rubber snake heads!LOL! It's pretty silly and humiliating. THe only thing that saves the scene for me (I actualy think its the best in the film)is Baccala's honest terror, the strobe-light (similar effect used in the RAPE/MURDER SCENE IN THE Diane Keeten film "LOOKING FOR MISTER GOODBAR"). After the rape scence- the door of the previously locked room bursts open and this thing that is half human and half noncorporial entity, bursts out like a bat out of hell (the thing is the brother of the old man's nephew. Aparently the old man's two nephews were the offspring of an antidulivian creature from another dimension that had been summond forth some thirty years before to mate with a human woman (the old man's sister and the mother of his nephews). One of the old mans nephews-played by a young Dean Stockwell (He would play Al On the SCI-Fi show QUANTUM LEAP in the 90's), the one saducing Sandra Dee (Bacala's roommate), appears human but the other-the one that raped the Donna Bacala character-is totaly otherworldly! The Dean Stockwell character is attempting to saduce the virgional Sandra Dee character into participating in some blashemous ceremony to sommon forth creatures from another diminsion (useing Sandra as a virgion sacrafice I supose). Anyway, I was struck by how arrogant, presumptive, and obnoxious Donna Baccalla is (and even abusive towawds the old man) and when the old man trys to warn her she, very cruely and violently, pushes him to the floor (or against a wall. Can't remember which). She barges into the room and then she's raped by the 'entity'. But, I have to admit, it was the best thing about the movie! (Simply because Donna Bacala-in 1970-was sooo hot!). On the other hand, neither of these films were comedies yet the scenes were very disturbing (and erotic). So you have a sexual prude realizing her deapest fear (being raped to death by a giant phalic worm) and another woman who is pushy and well educated, perhaps weatlthy and used to being in control being victomized. Does her power and strength over the old man symbolize how agressive accademic feminism has contempt for men, seeks to emasculate men, and how men have become week and frail (and yes, even impotend) in its wake? Probably not, but she really pushes that old man arround. Maybe it's a comment on how the elderly are misstreated by the young. Does the Bacala character secretly want to be dominated by a male figure? We don't see evidence of this in the film. Donna Bacala does a wonderful job of acting terrified. You really beleive she is terrified out of her wits durring the rape scene. BUT SHE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SHE IS ENJOYING IT. SHE DOESN'T HAVE A WILMA SOONG TYPE ORGASM IN THE SCENE. JUST SHEAR TERROR ON HER PART! So,I'm not so sure we could make the argument that the Bacala character 'wanted' what happend to her (is she the product of being brainwashed by militant feminism into thinking its OK to push an old man around; even slap him around, in his OWN HOME? Perhaps. Does she get off on her own power? Defineately. But being made powerless does not seem to be something she is enjoying durring the rape scene! BACALA WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN ACADEMY AWARD FOR HER PERFORMANCE OF A WOMAN COMPLETELY TERRIFIED DURRING A RAPE had DUNWICH HORROR been a better film and worthy for oscar consideration. YOU REALLY BELIEVE SHE IS SCARRED!) but I somethimes think that the lady scientist from GALAXY OF TERROR secretly wanted sex; that she desired what she feared the most. The 'worm' is merly a metaphore created by her unconscious for what in reality is her deepest fear; the fear of an angry male phalas (a fear that is, in reality, her deepest desire!). So such films explore the link between sex, death, and pleasure. Do I think all these things are linked on some primal level. I really don't know, but I think the guys and gals who write this stuff enjoy tormenting the viewer with this possibility!LOL!
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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jack-677
18 years ago
Hi TX-9
I must apologise as I really got the wrong episode of Space 1999 I had her scene in suspended animation all wrong .I knew after after you told us to look on google the first time I looked at the photos I knew i blew it bad and gave a completly wrong post.
I just read your last post where you are talking about teachers and their students having sex and the media jumpimg all over it.
Well if you look back to my story about Lee Meriwether appearing on Merv you will see that I mentioned Angie Dickinson doing a film called "Pretty Maids all in a row".In this film Angie is a high school reacher and very interested in another teacher Rock Hudson .Rock has his plate full as he is involved with about 20 girl students.But he knows Angie is after him and asks her to tutor a student so he will graduate and go to college.He knows the student is turned on by Angie and She agrees to get herself in the good graces of Rock.She begins to tutor the kid and winds up in bed with him .Angie is shown the next morning laying nude on top of the bed acting if she is in total extascy or euphoria.There are numerous nude scenes .Angie got flak for doing this but it pushed her career into the stratosphere.No one at that time complained about teacher male or female having sex with their students.The picture was written by of all people Gene Roddenberry.
You may have been too young but at the time of the early 70's any actress that would not appear nude or in sex scenes was written off to oblivion.The older main stream actresses either complied like Angie Dickinson ,who profited greatly for it or were pushed to the sidelines.
thats where the Lee / merv story starts
If it was just a publicity stut ,which someone pointed out and may have been the case,then ok she tried.But if this was true then everyone one listing was shocked by it.She was not just doing a nude scene she was going to be served like a pig at a banquet.It almost reminds me of Nicole Kidman when she did a theater act and posed nude in it the audience was sold out in a short time.
If it was true Lee was making an attempt to really launch her career.This was at a time she was still a beautiful woman,before her Barnaby Jones days when she started to look matronly.
Again I'm sorry for giving bad info on Spave 1999
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TX-9
18 years ago
Hi Jack! Thanks for looking up those photos on Space 1999. Glad it helped you correct your mistake. No need to apologise. We see these things twenty or thirty years before and its understandable our memories play tricks on us. Happens to me all the time.
Thanks for putting the whole Lee Meriweather thing into historical and social context for me. Yes, I remmeber a lot of mainsteam actors (male and female) being expected to do nude scenes in those days; it was a time of transition. Still I was just a kid in the late sixties and early seventies so I didn't have an adult perspective on it. Thanks for providing that.
Yes, I've read a couple of Gene Roddenberry Biographies so I've heard of this film, I think. IT sounds familer. But I've never seen it. Now I'm curious! Angeie Dickenson was one fabulous babe (and then some)!
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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jt74455
18 years ago
I'm glad you explained that JACk as not everyone is old as us and remembers those early 70s.
My impression of her was she was a terrible actress in the very early days and it was known she was nervous and she was just used as eye candy.I can remember her being made to model swinswits on shows she was on in the 50s .The 60s saw a change and she got silly little parts like being Andy Grifith's wife in a film where he was the town minister.And Don Knotts girlfriend in another .The late 60's she came on strong the first TV show where I believed she became a good actress was her Star Trek episode.Then her memorable Mission Impossible shows.
I believe whether it was publicity stut or not I believe it backfired on her and she made a complete laughing stock out of herself.I believe if she had gone ahead and it was filmed it may have worked but it may have backfired as it was such a bizarre scene.
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TX-9
18 years ago
Just remember this little Hammer film from the early 1970's starring Christoper Lee, Edward Woodward, Britt Eckland, and Ingrid Pit (THE LATTER THREE ALL HAVE NUDE SCENES IN THIS FILM!). In this film Woodward plays a police sargent from the Scotish mainland, named Neil Howie, who recieves a teligram that a girl has been missing for several months on the island of Sommerisle (just off the West Coast of Scotland). Sargent Howie flys a police plane to the island to investigate. He encounters a culture in which the inhabitants have adopted the 'old pagan' religion. Howie is a devout Catholic and is saving himself for marrage. Both the men and the women on the island have no inhabitions against nudity or free love. Young teenage girls are lead by their teachers to leep naked over a firery brazure as a furtility right that will suposedly result in 'parthanogenesus' or their being imrpegnated by Nuana the sun god (or somthing along those lines. I must confess I don't have all my pagan dieties straight!LOL!). Howie confronts Lord Summersisle (the owner of the island and leader of its inhabitants) about this 'decandent pagan practice' and how superstitous it is. Lord Summerisle (played by Christoper Lee) responds that this is no more superstitous then Sgt. Howie's Chatholic belief in 'the virgion Mary who gave birth to a child consieved by a ghost!" Howie is also propositioned by the 'innkeeper's daugter', Willow, (played by sexy Britt Ekland who does this highly erotic and entertaining naked song and dance number trying to seduce Sgt. Howie. Howie would like nothing better then to take her up on her offer of free love but he remains faithful to his Catholic religion.). Howie tell's her it isn't personal; that he just doesn't have sex outside of marrage. One of the things I liked about this film is that it depicts Christianity as just another religion; no more nor less rational then Paganism. However, the Pagan's on Summersisle island practice 'human sacrifice'. The crops haven't grown on the island for several years in a rowe. Howie belives that the islanders first attempted animal sacrifice. Now be believes, out of desperation,they have kidnaped the missing girl named Rowan, and plan to sacrife her on May I, a Pagan holiday. Howie, turns the town upside down looking for the girl. He is intrusive and abusive toward the inhabitants at times. He is also judgmetal of their religion (AS IF IT NEVER OCCURES TO HIM THAT HE IS OUTNUMBERED ON THIS ISLAND and should be more cautious!). He eventualy believes most of the people know something and he threatens to go to the mainland for re-inforcements. But the inhabitants have sabataged his plane and he's cut-off from comunicating with the mainland. To make a long story short, Howie finds the girl but discovers that, he had been manipuated and tested by the island inhabitants and found to be a perfect human sacrifice. As Lord Summersisle tells it "sacrifce an animal that's good. Sacrifice a child that's even more acceptable to the gods; but sacrifice the right kind of adult that that is the best sacrifice of all!" Howie ask's him what he means by 'the right kind of adult' and Brit Ekland tells him they are looking for basicaly a 40 year old virgion!LOL! Howie trys to run away but the people of the island subdue him, strip him naked, anoint him with oil (while the pagan women [Ingrid Pitt as the 'Librarian' and Britt Ekland as 'the end-keeper's daughter] dry him off with their sexy long hair! [a scene reminsent of the prostitue who washes Jesus'feet and drys them off with her hair IN THE BIBLE. Howie is treated as martyer and venerated as a sacrficial savior by the pagans, for whom Howie has become somthing of a Christ figure!]) and he is forced to whear a shift or rather virgional and efeminate looking white dress (which is rather humiliating for him I should think!LOL!). Then, to add to the humiliaton, a very large man throws him over his shoulder and carries him up to and locks him up in a giant Wickerman. The Wickerman, containing Sgt. Howie and several sacrificial animals, is set ablaze. I thought this was a rather humiliating end for a man who was too pious to have sex with Brit Ekland!LOL! If ONLY HE HAD BEEN A MAN AND STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND LET O'L BRITT HAVE HER WAY WITH HIM HE MIGHT HAVE LIVED!LOL! Seriously, it was a humiliating scene for Edward Woodward (who went on to star as TV's THE EQUALIZER in the late 1980's) because he not only had to where a ladies slip/shift and be thrown over the shoulders of a large burly man and carried off like a young Scottish maiden on her wedding day but, he had to suffer the further indignity of being uraniated on by some ghoats who had (in real life) been locked in the Wickerman along with Woodward (goats become agitated and afraid when arround a large fire and when they're affraid they tend to lose control of their bladers and releave themselves. Unfortunately for Woodward they releived themselves all over him [while the scene was actualy being filmed]!LOL!). SO I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF A MALE CHARACTER WHO IS BOSSY AND PUSHY AND PRUDISH WHO ENDS UP BEING STRIPPED AND HUMILIATED. I MENTION THE FILM AS A CURIOSITY BECAUSE IT IS SO RARE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS TO A MALE CHARACTER; USUALY ITS PRUDISH OR PUSHY FEMALE CHARACTERS WHO 'GET THE WORKS (Think Margaret Hulahan's shower scene in Robert Altman's M*A*S*H*)!" It's also interesting what this film says about religion. The inhabitants of Sumersile are discribled accurately by their leader Lord Sumersisle as "an extreamely religious people." WEll, the messege of the film is that being religous isn't always a good thing (especialy if your religion involves human sacrifice!)" So I've mentioned tree films that involve ritual human sacrifice: SPACE:1999 EPISODE-MISSION OF THE DARIANS, THE DUNWITCH HORROR, AND THE WICKERMAN. You know, to keep this on topic, the scene in which WILMA SOONG is placed in suspended animation has an almost ritualistic air about it; as she is turned toward the box and then disrobbed. It's something I've noticed anyway; as if Wilma Soong is being treated almost like a virgin sacrafice (although Wilma Soong was probably anything but a virgion!LOL! I think we've all come to the conclusion whe has no scruples and would perform any sexual act if she thought it would advance her career as a Red Chinese Commie chick!LOL!).
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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jack-677
18 years ago
I've come up with 3 more humiliating scenes
1 Lisa and the Devil-Elke Somer- Elke was coming down fron her star status and did this odd Italian movie-She goes on vacation to Spain and has some pecular encounters at the resort.She goes to bed one evening and wakes up in bed in a forest and she realizes she was wearing PJs and is now nude she has flashbacks that she ahd sex the night before.Other strange things happen and she decides to leave early .She boards a plane and is so happy that she is getting away .The next thing she has all her clothes taken away in a flash and wind up squatting on the floor trying to cover herself up.
2 I don't remember the name of this film but Britt Ekland is in it.Anyway she is engaged to this man who was married before and had kids.One of his sons is about 12 or 13 and Britt needs him to do something and comes into his bedroom and asks him he refuses and tells her he will only do it if she removes her dress.Britt refuses but the kid insists ,she does as he asks but then she is told she must remove all her clothes she gets angry and oblijes then she is told she must climb into bed with him.She does this and she starts fondeling her.
3.The last one really shows the darker side of man.It was a made for TV movie and I can't remember the name or the actress.But a single mom is raising her son and looses her job.She has tremondous difficulty finding a replacement job and is forced to become a exotic dancer.The first night she has to preform she is shown crying hysterically backstage ,as she is so embarassed at what she has to do to keep her head afloat.She has warned her friends that her son who is about 10 not know what is mom is doing and pretend she is working in a office in a regular day job.She goes om and is greated by the male audience with degrading remarks and obscene jestures.It is filled with real lowlives.After she stage preformance she is again in tears as it was much worse than she ever expected.She is even accosted by patrons in the parking lot.All the time she works there she is constantly looking for a real day job.
She keeps the secret but one day while driving her son to the store a car pulls up next to hers and the two men inside recognise her and start saying things to her.She despartly pulls away .Word gets out and soon the kids in her sons class start to tease him about his mother the nudie dancer.Eventually the son comes to the strip club and the owner knows it is her son and lets him in .AS his mother is about to preform .The owner thinks the son seeing hhis mom dance nude will be a very erotic scene and great for business.The mother starts her act and doesn't realize her son is watching her.The boy watches for about 3/4 of the act with tears comming down his face before he can't take it anymore and runs out.The mother then sees him and tries to run off the stage to go get him,but the owner steps in and announces to the patrons that she just preformrd for her son ,which really puts a stir into the patrons.She tries to climb down but the owner says she must finish her act.The patrons start to jeer and make silly remakes and the girl is forced to get back and dance.
This is the lowest spot any made for TV movie ever went!It was positively ridiculas .It was made for little boys in puberty who must have loved it and for some loder men who are deviates. It was just palin sick!!!
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tommix-1
18 years ago
Yup I've seen those .Elke was probably 5 yrs past her prime for that one.Britt was great ,she had to dance for him as she stripped!.
The mother who was forced to dance at the strip club really pandered to the lowest element.I remember people saying how awfull that was that some was forced to do that,they felt very sorry for anyone in that position .Other people I know loved it and really had themselves belly laffs over it and they really got thier jollies off .
One film was a british film I saw about 5-10 yrs ago.I saw it on TV but it was made 80-85 .Some of my friends thiught it had a very erotic scene .I didn't I don't know why I may be getting to old.
But it inolves a british company,this very attractive girl works there a a seceratary ,she is informed she is getting a new boss.The guy arrives and is taken by the girl.The girl just sees him as her boss and thats it.She goes about her daily work trying to find a husband.The guy is doing everything possible to engracate himself to her all to no avail.The girl is despartly trying to get a boyfriend.One day the girl brings her young son in the office and introduces him to the boss,the boss does everything he can to get on the kids good side.The guy is totally frustrated but has the one scene that my friends love.He is sitting at his desk on day daydreaming a sexual fantasy about the girl.She is wearing only bra and panties and od course high heeled shoes.She is kneeling down tied up at her ankles and her hands tied behind her back.She also has an apple in her mouth.The guy comes to her and is holding a large carving knife and sharpening it.She is pleadimg for mercy but it is hard to tell what she is saying as there is an apple in her mouth.Some of my friends thought it was very erotic .I didn't as it was a dream scene.Just wanted to bring this one up incase anyone remembers.
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jt74455
18 years ago
Well we now have a whole bunch of films that people don't know the names .This is something that is very annoying as it is hard for the reader if they want to check out for themselves.I find this very annoying.There was a film I wanted to discuss as it has all the elements we've been discussing but for the life of me I can't remember the name.Even thou I have seen this at least 10 times.However not since the mid 70's.This film is very very similar to KTGAMTD.It has alot of the things that that film does.It is one of those very campy flying saucer films from the late 50's .With aliens comming to earth to snatch earth women to repopulate their world.
It has a husband and wife and a young son-9 or 10- living in the western US desert.The husband is a scientist whose specility is meteors.They are out for a drive one night and they spot a meteor but the husbad says it moves in very pecular motions.The boy cries out do you think it's flying saucer? The mother starts to tease him about his imagination running wild.
But the boy is correct .
The aliens first capture two couples in a lovers lane .They kill the two boys and destroy their car with a ray and move the girls into a cave labortory to be prepared for transport to another world.First the girls have their dresses removed and then they are placed ona table to be prepped where the remainder of their clothing is removed and they are then placed nude into plexiglass cylenderical tubes (which has a mist or steam to hide variuos body parts)and beemed to the aliens planet.
The small town is very concerned over the missing couples and everyone is talking about what happened .Of course no one knows that aliens are the real reason.The mother ,who is an incredible beautiful woman is talking to her best friends about it.The first is a very attractive brunette who is the school teacher and does teach the son,the second is another very attractive woman a blonde who is a police officer.
The husband is working with the town officials to help come up for a reason for the disaperances.More woman start to disappear but they are not shown.The next girl that is shown is the teacher and later the policewoman are all beemed back to the home planet for sex with the aliens.
The town is in a panic as about 20 girls and ten men are missing.There are patrols combing the area for any trace of these people.The mother who is wearing the very tight skirts and dresses of the day is also given torpedo tits or thats they way she always looks.The son is the first with an idea that aliens are responsible and starts to try to find their hiding place on his own.The mother then panics and jumps into her car to find him.As you may have guessed the aliens capture the mother.The bring her to the cave as she pleads with them to let her go and she acts very very subservant to them .They then take the mothers dress off ,of course it takes much longer than any of the other girls ,the mother is wearing a bra and a half slip and she looks great.Instead of putting her on the prepping table right away the take her to an alcove with some beam so she cannot escape.In reality it is a ploy to get this girl more screen time half dressed.The boy now discovers the cave and sends a message for the sherriff to come and bring help.The mother is brought back for the prepping and put on the table to be stripped .She is then placed into the cylender she seems to be in a state of suspebded animation as were the other four girls who were shown.There is another wait as the aliens recieve a message from their home planet .They want them to stop operations with the mother being the last one sent .One thing about the mother's scene in the tube is there is much less mist and alot of the mother's body can be seen.Of course they don't show her nipples but you can see a great deal of her cleavage and there is a shot from the back of the cylinder and I swear you can see the crack of her ass.The rescue party arrives and starts to skirmish with the aliens.The boy runs into the area with the tubes and sees his mother bare assed naked and about to be transported to another planet to be boinked by ET!!! The mother is in the tube with this idiotic facial expression on and frozen.The boy breaks the cylinder and saves his mom.Just as the others ,who have come into that area after killing the spacemen.The mother has no clothes on and she is shown trying to hide herself and one of the rescurers give her his jacket.Man does she look realy wearing that jacket as it shows off her legs .She magicly is wearing high heels which she wasn't when she went into the capsule .
But this has a lot of the same elements of KTGAMTD.And has always reminded me of it.
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tommix-1
18 years ago
I've seen this one and I completly forgot about it till I read you post.Your comment that the mother had torpedo tits made me laugh as I can remember thinking the same thing but it's obvious after her dress is gone thats it's only the dress that makes it look that way as she does have a nice set of tits but not gigantic.This film is so bad the only reason anyone would watch it is for the girls.I acn remember seeing this with a large group of guys when we like 14 or 15 in my friends baasement on a friday nite horror show called creature feature.The mother brought howls from the guys even in the early parts just seeing her .Everyone was begging for the spacemen to capture her as they wanted to see her stripped!!!!!It;s funny only 4 girls are shown before the mother .the first 2 are ok looking but those 50's styles really make them scary.Then they move to 2 nice lookings women with the teacher and the cop.But they saved the best for last with the mother some guys said they couldn't breath as she was getting it and the way they drew out the mother's transportatin .This wasn't a sci fi film but an oppournity to show off beautiful scantuly clad women.When they put the mother inside the transportation cylinder one of my friends said "Man I hope they send her here to his basement " which brought howls of laughter.
You are right it is very similar to KTGAMTD .I also believe that you could see the crack in the mother;s behind .For the 50s this was really something wild!!!
She did look great wearing that jacket a lot of her legs were showing and we did notice she is wearing high heels after the aliens alwys destroyed the girls clothing .Where did she get the shoes from????
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TX-9
18 years ago
The only film I've seen that you guys have mentioned is LISA AND THE DEVIL. The film director MARIO BAVA wrote this film especially for Elke Sommer. Their are two versions of the film out; the best version is the unedited. MARIO BAVA had a tendency to fall in love which his starlets. I think this film is actually his very own fantacies about Elke Sommer brought to the screen! I agree, Elke was a little past her prime (think A SHOT IN THE DARK!) but she still looked good.
IN CASE ANYONE IS INTERESTED my research lead me to a website called www.badmovies.org. This has tons of bad movies on it with screen and video captures. This might help you guys find some of those bad movies you keep talking about but can't remember the names of!LOL! It's not very extensive but maybe you might run into one or two. At anyrate, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VIDEO CAPTURE OF DONNA BACCALLA AS ELIZABETH HAMILTON being raped by a non-corporial entity in the film THE DUNWICH HORROR, go to www.badmovies.org and look up THE DUNWICH HORROR and scroll down near the bottom of the DUNWICH HORROR page and you'll see a picture of ELIZABEATH (BACCALA) about to open the infamous 'locked door'. You can't miss it. Next to the picture of Elizabeth and the door reads the caption "ELIZABETH GETS TO MEET WILBUR'S BROTHER IN THIS SCENE AND DON'T THINK SHE OIS VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT. BEING FLOGGED WITH RUBBER HANDS AND SNAKE HEADS IS PROBABLY PAINFUL." JUST CLICK ON THE PHOTO OF BACCALA IN FRONT OF THE DOOR OR ON THE AFORSAID CAPTION AND A SCREEN WILL POP UP AND YOU CAN SEE PART OF THE RAPE SCENE. It doesn't seem to include the topless part of the scene (bare breasts and nipples) pressent in the DVD release but you do at least get to see Baccala's scarf, coat, and blouse ripped off! Also a really cool and colorful strobe light effect; psycadelic man!!!!LOL!
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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steveb789
18 years ago
Eureka !!!! My friend who is really into this stuff called at 6 am this morning,he has located this flying saucer film.He sent me two reviews and approx.100 still shots of the film.It is said in both rewiews the film is called "Destination Outer Space " 1959 .The first review ,which must have been done around the time of the films initial release stated "The light honey haired actress Karen Scott steals the show with her performance.I checked IMDB and no such title is listed and no Karen Scott is listed either.
I wasn't quite sure what they ment she stole the show ,was it her actting ,her looks or that final scene? The second review was probably done in the 70's and is a bit harsh on the whole flying saucer 50s movies and is critical of this film for the amount of flesh it peddles to make abuck.It is also saying the film looks more like a late 60s film with the amount of skin thats shown.
I was very busy here today(mother's day) and had a lot of people over the house but i did read the reviews (Twice) and did look over the pics )several times).I never saw this film as best as I can remember but reading JT's and Tom's posts everything fell into place when I looked at the pics .you guys did a nice job and I really understood what was going on.The torpedo effect ,I believe is caused by the belt ot belts the mother is wearing ,it seems to be at least 3 inches wide and very tight,I think that caused the torpedo effect .I'm very surprized that no one mentioned the mother's behind ,the belt also creates and effect that it is like a very ripe tomato.Maybe thats why girlsin the 50's were called tomatoes.I see what your talking about the mist in the cylinders there seems to be a good deal with the first 2 girls and then gets thinner with the teacher and the cop and with the mom there a lot less.I cannot believe what is shown for that day of the mother in the cylinder scene.I saw 3 shots from behind and I really studied them to see it I could see the woman's crack.Honestly i'm not sure.The thing that stuck me is this actress ,Karen Scott,was a very very beautiful actress.
The later review blasted the film for the luridness of the boy comming to the rescue and finding his mom about to be sent to be ravashed by space aliens.It says she might have to be rescued from the male audience as they may treated her worse.It also says the male viewer is hoping the last 3 girls are caught and processed by the spacemen ,as they will be shown undressed.It rips the pure sexploytation of the film in general.
My friend recieved these shots from another party and will not realease them to any one he doesn't know so I am unable to share them.Sorry!
He did promise to send me the following
Wilma Soong 50 shots
Lee Meriwether Mission Impossible 50 shots.
Baretta 100 shots.
Spanky's mother ( Beginner's Luck) 100 shots
He believes these are from something he downloaded and I can share with you guys.He is still looking for others that people have mentioned on this board especially the one we call the untitled movie.I definatley want to see what this woman looks like.You guys have to understand ,I have not spoke to this guy in yrs and after a couple of phone calls he is helping us out.He is avery busy guy and a bit scatterbrained but he is on the case.He is reading this board and enjoys it .So maybe you guys can think of pics you may want to see and hopefully he can get them and we can all share out thoughts.
I may take time to get these as his files are huge and he is a very busy guy.If any of the above titles you don't want just say so and i'll tell him not to waste his precious time.If yo want to see any of these let me know . Ok guys.
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tommix-1
18 years ago
Hey Steve
I'd just like to thank you for the job you did.But ,man alive, would I love to see those pics myself.That girl is gorgeous!!!
I'll think of stuff I'd like to see and post it later on.Of the ones hes sending the first three I can't wait to see,but Spanky's mother gets a thumbs down .
Asfar as the reviews I believe these type of films were just made for the young male fantasy.Those girls were exposed for pure male excitement ,plain and simple.They were sexually exploiting the male viewer with these scenes of scantilly clad girls .It's not science fiction but sex fiction.
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jt74455
18 years ago
Hi Steve
I too wish to convey my thanks at least you got a name and the girls name.I would just love to see Karen Scott's TITZAPOPPIN scene as she gets caught by the aleins.I understand thou ,as I have had friends who sent pics to others and the stuff winds up on a websight a couple of months later.
As for the pics your friend is going to send ,I say send them all.I know TOM voted against Spanky's mother but I love that scene,myself.
I never told anyone before but I have always felt it is extremely erotic .The part where after her dress is gone and the prop goes into place ,WOW that is a major sexual turn on .The funny thing is I don't know why? I really can't explain it .If any of you guys can fill me in on what you think let me know as I would love to know why I feel this way.I never thought she was a good looking woman.I love to see her loose her dress and that prop sends me over the edge.
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TX-9
18 years ago
Hi Steve, all those options sound agreeable to me (especialy CAPTURES OF Miss Soong!). THANKS MAN! Also, please see if your freind can find MISS SOONG as she appears in the 'deleted scenes' from the Italian version.
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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onestooges
18 years ago
Ok guys I have found the film Destination Outer Space in a book I have about the Flying Saucer films of the 50's .I saw pics of it and Karen Scott.You guys are correct she is a hottie ,indeed.I was surprized that I never saw this film,and never heard of it at all before this.I was shocked that it was in this book.I never paid any attention to it before .
This was about the end of this type of film in 1959 .Also Karen must not had made any other films .This film is not listed in all the searches I did and also she is not listed in all the searches I did.I'm really surprised that this was the only film she ever did as she was so very beautiful,maybe she met a rich guy and that was that just the same way Senya ended it too.
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steveb789
18 years ago
Hi Guys
I know it's been a long ,long wait!!!
I called this guy everyday ,sometimes multiple times ,tryin to get an answer as to when I would get those shots so I can post them.He still has not forwarded them to me yet.But I have spoke to him ,he said he got very busy and hasn't started to look for them yet.
He did ask me 2 things ,first is to say if you want any shots of any actress either nude or in her underwear just list them
second- I am to run poll here on the scenes we brought up
1 which actress was the most beautiful ( top 3 answers)
2which scene was the most degrading (top 3)
3which scene was the most erotic (top 3)
4 which actress got it the worst(top 3)
5which scene would you have liked to see more of (top3)
6which actress was the biggest or greatest MILF (top 5)note any actrees that is a mom in real life counts .
7.which scene was the greatest done as a cheap stunt to get ratings (top 3)
second note theres a lot of films that people havn't seen just do your best after reading the write ups if you wish to vote for a scene that you have not actually seen.
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steveb789
18 years ago
I'll start it
my list of actresses i'd like to see in nude or scantilly clad scenes1.Seyna Seyn 2 Carol Lynley 3 Shirley Eaton 4 Elizabeth Taylor 5 Lee Meriwether 6 Stella Stevens 7 Sharon Stone 8 jennifer connelly 9 Lea Thompson 10 Tea leoni
1 from the list of films 1 Karen Scott 2Lee Meriwether 3 Britt Ekland
2I didn't see it but the mother with the preppy kid has to be the most degrading
b Spanky's mom c Lee Meriwether's scene on the platter that was not filmed
3Miss Soong b Lee Meriwr=ther (misson Impossible )c Lee meriwether if it was ever done
4the mom of the preppy kid b Spanky's mom c Lee meriwether on the platter
5a Lee Meriwetrhr platter scene shuld have been done b Miss Soong c Karen Scott
6MILFS 1Stella Stevens 2Kaern Scott 3Lee Meriwether 4 Britt Ekland 5 Mom from commerical who looses her dress
7 1 Baretta 2Misson Impossible 3 Space 1999
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jt74455
18 years ago
1 Karen Scott,Lee Meriwether,Barbara Bain
2 and 4 The mother who gets striped by the kids has to be the top one,Spanky's mom ,Karen Scott
3Spanky's mom for all 1 2 3
5 Spanky's mom ,Karen Scott Lee Meriwether if that crazy scene was done
6 Spanky's mom,Girl with kid in commerical ,Lee Meriwether,Karen Scott Stella Stevens
7 All of them !
PS I know this sounds crazy but I always thought Spanky's mom should have posed nude for Playboy ,I know there was about 20 yrs between her acting and the start of PLayboy but I just through this in
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TX-9
18 years ago
1. Seyna Seyn, Barbara Bain, and Barnaby Jones' secretary.
2.Most degrading. Taffie being raped by a giant worm in "GALAXY OF TERROR".
-Sorry but making it with a slimy worm is about as degrading as it gets.
Barbara Bain, and Seyna Seyn are next, not because their scenes were that
degrading persey, but because they both begged beged their captives to
have mercy on them. That made it more degrading in my opinion; their
begging: "No-Don't...No..Please"-Wilma Soong. And "No, please, stop, we wanted to help you...please, No!" for Dr. Russel. Oh brother, just pathetic!LOL! Show some pride girls!LOL!
3. Most erotic had to be Barbara Bain (but Seyna Seyn was a close second).
I'm sorry again, I know a lot of you guys find 'mom's' getting the works
to be hot. With me its doctors. Doctors are authority figures and plus
they are always forcing us to take our clouthes off and pokeing and proding
us as they examine every oraface. But in the Space:1999 episode we see a
middle aged lady doctor forcably stripped and supbjected to a physical
exam and forced to whear skimpy clothes (the same kind of treatment doctors
have been subjecting other people to for years)!LOL! This was a turn on
somehow. Smart, pretty lady doctors just turn me on period. Barnaby Jones'
secretary rounds out my top three.
4. Again, Taffie in Galaxy of Terror. Man you could see her getting it between
the legs with nasty slimy tenticles! Yuck! Very violent. Barbara Bain
was ruffed up quite a bit, Seyna Seyn was not roughed up so much as
man-handled and disrespected. Those are my top three.
5. Definately Seyna Seyn. I would have loved to see all the missing footage
from the Europian version. Barbara Bain actualy being stripped and
getting the phyical exam (to determine for certain she wasn't a mutant or
deformed) would have been grate. I read the 'novelization' of the
Space:1999 episode MISSION OF THE DARIANS and it included a scene in which
the Darian priest has her stripped and then he caresses and probes
Dr. Russel's entire nude body from head to toe with his grubby hands, looking for imperfections.
When he finds her body to be 'perfect' he only then has her dressed in the
skimpy, tattered Darian shift and readied for sacrifice to the Darian gods.
The movie with Lee Maryweather being served naked on a silver platter
rounds out my top three.
6. What does MILF stand for? Barbara Bain was a mother when she played
Dr. Russel on Space:1999. That is, Barbara, not her character, was a
a mother in real life. She had two teanaged daughters back in 1975.
One of her daughters is about my age and is an actress now (Juliette
Landau).
7. Definately the Barreta episode. That scene was uncessesary (but cool!).
I disagree, respectfuly, with those of you who think Barbara Bain's skimpy
outfit was a ratings ploy. Her nudity and vulnerability were esential to
the plot. How else could the Darian's tell she wasn't a mutant unless they
removed her clothes and examined her? So that made sense.
The Seyna Seyn scene in Kiss the Girls... was gratuitus, however.
It would have been more beleivable to have Wilma Soong show up whearing her metalic silver
bikini and then sumarily marched into the machine rather then have her
disrobed and 'dressed up' by the machine while she's being frozen. I loved
the disrobing scene but that should have been done a different way. The
Lee Maryweather scene was obviously done for ratings and for laughs (but
I'm sure she looked hot so who cares).
"AM I MAKING YOU RANDY?"-Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
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burtcooper
18 years ago
Hi fellow posters
I'm new to posting here.I've read all the posts on this board.I loved KTGAMTD but I did not see this in the movies just TV from a long time ago and have not seen it in 20 yrs! But the whole thing is an amazing erotic turn on ,especially all the scenes with Wilma Soong.
As for the other films I have seen most of them,Baretta and Barbara Bain are close to the top but not as good as Soong.MI with Lee Meriwether is a great one too .She was an incredibly beautiful girl and being shown off in that sexy attire was right up there.The story about her on Merv shocked me as I had never heard it before ,I did ask people if they remembered it and it Three of them did.All say that she made a howling laughing stock out of herself by telling this story.One said he agreed it might be a PR thing .But all agreed how could she allow herself to actually be filmed like this ?Served up like a pig at a banguet ,bare assed naked glazed like a donut with an apple in her mouth?WHAT ARE YOU KIDDING?And her and her husband saying it was artistic purposes???I really wish thay had made this film.I think she would have been the laffing stock of Hollywood.I don't know if I would have found it funny or erotic ?
I can remember two scenes on Barnaby Jones wher I believe they used her looks to increase ratings .The first one she was comming down a ladder and got the hem of her dress caught as she came down her dress went up .Of course Barnaby reaches over and unhooks the dress from a nail and saves her.The other is where she is tied up ,really bound and gaged ,she is trying to free herself.Her dress hikes up quite a bit as she is in this process.
I never found Spanky's mom to be attractive but I have to agree her stage debut is very erotic.I must agree with the poster who said the prop scene tops it off and the body has it's legs spread and her head is tilted back with her mouth open.
I remember the TV commerical and yup it was right up there .A beautiful girl stripped to her sexy slip ,can't beat it !
I had trouble finding the flying saucer film ,it took one of my friends several days to locate it that it was real.Never saw it ,but I wish I had.
Another strange scene that no one mentioned is in Forrest Gump.When Sally Field wants her son in a better school.She asks the principal if there is anything that could be done to get him in .The man puts on a devilish grin and asks her about her husband.Mrs Gump gets very submissive as she looks at the man.After he is finished and leaving the house he turns back to Forrest and says"Your momma really wants you in a better school.I saw this in the movies nad it brought about an incredible amount of laughter.
This bring me to the "untitled movie".Four guys Iknow saw it and all said they will never forget it !Again no one knows the name of this film,sorry.
But all say I really missed something great.
I believe from what i've read and was told the 2 all time toppers have to be Lee as the high school teacher served up at the banquet and this woman from the unknown named film.The guys laffed when I told them about some poster having trouble watching 40 yr old tits and ass run across the Screen.All said she was probably in her thirties ,all agree that she had been buttered or given some kind of grease job and all said seeing her run to that car and falling down was one of the most erotic scenes ever shot .All say that this actress was a real nice looking girl.
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ae36
17 years ago
I realize I'm coming late to the party, but the Space: 1999 episode "Mission of the Darians" is not the only episode of this series where a pretty women loses her clothes and is humiliated.
The first season has another episode titled "The Full Circle". The plot of this episode doesn't make a lot of sense-- there's a jungle planet that has a strange mist. Anyone enveloped by it is reduced to to a primitive state-- memories wiped clean, instinct only. Even their clothes are transformed to animal skins.
After the main landing party goes missing, a rescue is mounted.
Sandra Benes, the pretty dark haired communication specialist, goes down in an Eagle to help in the search. To make a long story short, she is kidnapped by a "cave man" (actually one of the missing landing party who has been transformed) and taken to a cave where all the transformed Alphans are hanging out.
Sandra is carried off on the guys shoulder. Upon arrival in the cave, she is groped and touched. Later, she is given a leopard skin as kind of an "offering" by the cave man who originally kidnapped. This causes a fight between the leader of the cave people and the guy who carried her off. He rips her tunic right before the fight.
The action now centers on the fight. Sandra is off camera. When the Chief wins the fight, he goes back to where Sandra is. She has now changed in to the skimpy Leopard skin.
In the context of the show, one assumes that she changes because she fears that she might be stripped by force and that could lead to something worse-- rape perhaps. She simply reasons that by changing willingly, she can avoid this.
Of course, in real life she changes because the director wanted to give the viewers something to oggle-- this was, after all, 70's SCi-Fi television.
I've always found this a little erotic for some reason. Here's this modern girl wearing her tight uniform pants and boots-- her "space age" Alphan uniform. And now she's barefoot and helpless, reduced to to wearing primitive skins.
She's gone from a modern, self sufficent equal woman to a barefoot sex kitten, chattel to any man strong enough to take and keep her.
It always seemed to me that wearing pants is the ultimate equality for women-- it put them on the same level as men. To lose them is the ultimate humiliation as its a much more difficult prospect than losing a skirt. It takes more effort.
Being barefoot is humiliating as well.
Anyway, Sandra is shown kneeling in a submissive position wearing her skins and you can see her now discarded modern uniform cast off to the side. I've always found this sort of erotic as well-- her modern girl clothes that make her an equal are within her sight but she's now basically not allowed to wear them.
Sandra manges to slip away and we are treated to seeing her make a mad run through a nightime forest.
She's barefoot, wearing her skins. Lost in a stange environment. Free for the moment but being pursued. This formally independent modern woman has now been reduced to a primitive savage.
The actress who plays Sandra is Zienna Merton. Coincidently, she was also born BUrma (one of her parents was from Burma, the other Spain). So she has a lot in common with Miss Song.
Does anyone else find this episode of Space: 1999 intriguing? fans of the show generally credit this episode as the worst of the first season. I think its the best for seeing Sandra in the leopard skin bikini
Go here:
http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/epguide/t15tfc.html
to read about the episode. Scroll down to the bottom where it says "images" to see Sandra in her fetching cave girl outfit.
One final thought: at the end of this episode, everyone is transformed back but do not have any memories of what happened. Everyone down on the planet is back to normal, restored to their modern selves to include uniforms. Sandra is the only one then still wearing her skins. In the context of the show, she must have been embarrassed to be standing around dressed in skimpy furs while everyone else was fully dressed. She had to go back to the base and to the medical center dressed like that! how humiliating!
AE36
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