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AMAZING battle sequences!!!


as well as most any other wide shot in this film.

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Yes, it looks quite magnificent, but it's hard to deny it's got a heavy undercurrent of racism, much more obvious here than in, for instance, The Bridge over the River Kwai. Not saying the racism destroys the film, but no film maker today would get to do this kind of showcase for the belief in British inborn supremacy.

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Then again, if you make a film about people who were more or less rasist that takes place in a time when racism was accepted... then you have to make it pretty racist dont you.


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Why should it matter if racism was accepted or not? Even if it wasn't, I prefer the movie try to be honest about what happened, right or wrong. Everywhere you look today morons are succeeding in rewriting history and it makes me sick. For example, how can you take away the confederate battle flag and pretend it never existed when thousands of people fought for it, right or wrong...... It's just plain insane to do things like that to history. The minute you lose faith in history's accuracy it falls flat and becomes worthless. BTW, I was born in NY. Just thought I would mention that before someone accuses me of being a crazed southerner living in the past.

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Yakima Canutt was a master. Heston loved working with him.



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They may have been amazing, but I think a lot of horses was greatly harmed during them, resulting in the death of many.

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I didn't see numerous scenes with horses where "many" might have been injured. Saw many more camels. I haven't watched this dvd in a few months, and can't recall any mass cavalry charges or horses tumbling catastrophically.

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I don't know whether this film has the usual post - credit regarding animal safety and welfare that we've come to expect, but there is a suggestion in the IMDB notes on alternate versions of the film, that horses "may" have been injured during the production, which, let's face it, is almost 50 years old.

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There's no doubt that horses died in this film. 😞 I just saw some of these scenes today. A horse can't fall on its neck (straight down) without breaking it, in the vast majority of cases. Trained falling horses fall on their left sides, not straight forward and on their necks! I'm disgusted that Heston, Olivier, et al, were involved in this film.😟

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Horses are dying like flies in this movie. You can see them in the final cut bluray, breaking necks, hitting dirt so hard that they just start convulsing instantly. Canutt said in his autobiography that there were no injuries to a single horse during the filming of the movie. Canutt was obviously a big liar and a piece of *beep*

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You're right, it looks really great, especially in the Blu-Ray/HD release! I enjoyed the battle scene at twilight (great use of livid red!) and especially the scene where Stewart's gunboat runs the Mahdist gauntlet. The Abu Klea scene seems rushed, though.

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Very well-done; well-shot and exciting. Just about the only thing I liked about that movie, really.

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