Pauline Kael


The film critic Pauline Kael worked behind the scenes in this film to study how a film gets made. She then wrote about it. Very fascinating stuff. Does anyone remember what she wrote about each actress in the film?

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I only recall she really trashed Candice Bergen. Kael pointed out that the others were hard-working actress but found Bergen lackadaisical and getting by on a pass because her beauty eclipsed the others workaday prettiness. (Though newcomer Bergen agrees she didn't take it all as seriously as the other girls, I feel she gave a very creditable performance nonetheless).

I would be interested in seeing the article Bergen herself wrote at the same time. In her autobiography, Ms. Bergen wrote that one of her fellow actresses in The Group stole her notes for the article she was writing and then threatened Candice with serious problems if she pursued writing it. I would love to know which actress that might have been !

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I really don´t know at all but could it have been Jessica Walter? I´m just guessing because she seems very determined. What do others think?

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Bergen 'eclipsed' the others' 'workaday prettiness'?

Compared to Jessica Walter, Bergen looks like one of her dad's wooden puppets.

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so true.

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HA! Joanna Pettet was the most beautiful actress in this film, with Joan Hackett a close 2nd.

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I completely agree with you. Pettet was amazingly beautiful, her role in the Bond spoof showed that. Hackett was very under-rated.

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<< The film critic Pauline Kael worked behind the scenes in this film to study how a film gets made. She then wrote about it. Very fascinating stuff. Does anyone remember what she wrote about each actress in the film? >>

She does not comment on each performer.

But Kael points out that as the most established actress (with two Academy Award nomination behind her), Shirley Knight was offered her choice between the two largest roles, Kay and Polly. Kael thought the film would have been better had Knight played Kay, as she had "the strength" to make the "impossible" role work, while she also thought Joanna Pettet was a giddy-type blonde better suited to light romantic comedy. So she considered the film off-balance from the start.

Beyond that, as I recall Kael doesn't single out anyone specifically for discussion, except for commenting on Bergen's physical beauty ("a goddess upstages the girls") and blasé attitude.

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Pauline Kael's essay, "The Making of 'The Group,'" can be found in her book Kiss Kiss Bang Bang published in April 1968 in hardcover by Little, Brown & Co. The mass market paperback edition was published by Bantam Books in April 1969. There was also a book club edition issued by the now defunct Film & Television Book Club in September 1968. These books are readily available today on sites such as eBay and abebooks.com.

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Yes, Pauline Kael wrote about her experience filming "The Group" in her essay "The Making of 'The Group", from her book Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

She also wrote a short article for Life magazine called "A Godess upstages the gilrs". It's about each of the eight actresses in the film. It is fascinating to read. Quite spot on, even though I don't agree with her view of that the parts of Polly and Kay should have switched actresses. Kay is unsympathetic but I think Joanna Pettet was good in the part. Shirley Knight as Polly is also good.

The article must have been publized just before the film was released in 1966.

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