avoid this movie


I am a Kirk Douglas fan and was extremely excited about the cast, but still this was one was a waste of time. Very boring, terrible writing/dialogue, and very flat characters, and at one point you can see the clapperboard is in clear freaking view and its just casually pulled away! lol so bad editing too, just dont waste your time on this one

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I agree. The movie is really lame in ways too numerous to mention. They must have spent most of their money on the talent because it doesn't look like there was much left for the production.

Yul Brynner was pretty good. Sinatra and John Wayne were OK--except for Wayne's breakdown in the camp. No American General would ever do that. "Duke" should have said no.

Angie Dickinson and Senta Berger were really beautiful, though Senta was a bit on the chunky side. I'd be happy with either one. :-)

Michael Douglas had an uncredited bit part as a jeep driver.

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It was pretty much what I expected. Decent, but nothing great. I think it went about 40 minutes longer than necessary.

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Well I liked and the wife who saw it for the first time last night did as well.



Yul Brynner was pretty good. Sinatra and John Wayne were OK--except for Wayne's breakdown in the camp. No American General would ever do that. "Duke" should have said no.


Oh er do you know any generals?

Duke should have said no? He said the lines he was told to say


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This is an invidious film, but I thought the casting made it far more than watchable. Sinatra's Joisey presence really livened things up, Wayne had some good comic moments, and Brynner looked suitably Dayan-ish. Berger was not chunky but juicy - there is a difference - and never lovelier. She acquitted herself well in the role of an intelligent, devoted sabra fighting for a cause.

Your judgment of what an American General would or would not do is excessively confident and perhaps unduly influenced by the movies. But it's besides the point, anyway. It works as a dramatic device underscoring the FACT that American generals who were present at the liberation of the camps were emotionally overwhelmed by what they saw. Wiki:

After his visit, Eisenhower cabled General George C. Marshall, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington, describing his trip to Ohrdruf:


. . .the most interesting--although horrible--sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'

Seeing the Nazi crimes committed at Ohrdruf made a powerful impact on Eisenhower, and he wanted the world to know what happened in the concentration camps. On April 19, 1945, he again cabled Marshall with a request to bring members of Congress and journalists to the newly liberated camps so that they could bring the horrible truth about Nazi atrocities to the American public. That same day, Marshall received permission from the Secretary of War, Henry Lewis Stimson, and President Harry S. Truman for these delegations to visit the liberated camps.

Ohrdruf made a powerful impression on General George S. Patton as well. He described it as "one of the most appalling sights that I have ever seen." He recounted in his diary that

In a shed . . . was a pile of about 40 completely naked human bodies in the last stages of emaciation. These bodies were lightly sprinkled with lime, not for the purposes of destroying them, but for the purpose of removing the stench. When the shed was full--I presume its capacity to be about 200, the bodies were taken to a pit a mile from the camp where they were buried. The inmates claimed that 3,000 men, who had been either shot in the head or who had died of starvation, had been so buried since the 1st of January. When we began to approach with our troops, the Germans thought it expedient to remove the evidence of their crime. Therefore, they had some of the slaves exhume the bodies and place them on a mammoth griddle composed of 60-centimeter railway tracks laid on brick foundations. They poured pitch on the bodies and then built a fire of pinewood and coal under them. They were not very successful in their operations because there was a pile of human bones, skulls, charred torsos on or under the griddle which must have accounted for many hundreds.[4]

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Good response. Good work.

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Thanks.

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Not a problem and you're welcome.

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Why do people let the Germans off the hook by describing these atrocities as "Nazi" rather than German? That's like saying that in 1846 the Democrats went to war with Mexico or that in 1876 the Republicans were defeated at the Little Big Horn.

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Sinatra stole the movie when he squirted seltzer water at the enemy fighter plane.

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Sinatra stole the movie when he squirted seltzer water at the enemy fighter plane.



that was brilliant


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I like the scene where Ram shot out the searchlight with a long burst from his Sten gun.

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Just caught it again on TV - I agree!

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Well, I'm not really a fan of Kirk Douglas (nothing against him, I just don't count myself as someone who is overly enamored with his acting, his son Michael is a MUCH BETTER actor).

But I am a history buff who is fascinated by the Middle East Wars of the 20th century. This is a very low budget feeling slap dash telling of the founding of Israel. Too bad. I'm VERY interested in that time period and the wars and the history of the people and the area. But this did look like just another schlock 1960s movie..... too bad.

They got a lot of A list talent of the time to make appearances, but it just wasn't a very good movie.

I jokingly called it the first GOLAN/GLOBUS film of the 1960s (being that Cannon films cranked out such crap in the 1980s)..... LOL....



Dr. Kila Marr was right. Kill the Crystalline Entity.

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