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Excusable Destruction of France's Railway Heritage


I'm as much of a railfan as the next guy and I hate to see steam scrapped, wrecked, or left to junk... but I'll make an exception for The Train. The year was 1964 - steam was on the way out, but there was no shortage of steam worldwide; indeed, parts of France were still in steam when the movie came out, and would remain so for a few years after.

Today, of course, I would object to destroying such railway artefacts, as the number of steam engines in the world has tapered dramatically over the past four decades and what's left is worth saving. At the time, however, the engines were but a few of an unremarkable class. (And the freight cars, and that coach too.)

Ultimately, I think the results on film speak for themselves; the film would lose nearly every last bit of the gritty, real effect it had if just models were employed... you just couldn't come up with the astounding scenes that make the movie what it is. (You know, where the engine jumps the rails and throws rocks and steel everywhere, with the spinning wheel ending up right above the camera? Or the wreck panorama, two engines colliding and sliding along the ground, with soldiers and railwaymen running all around on the ground?)

Speaking AS A RAILFAN, I think that the trains lost making the movie were well worth the unique results on celluloid, which do just as much - if not more - justice to history than simply retaining the trains.

(But perhaps I'm just another "Excentric Crank.")

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I feel the same way, you would have to be out of your mind to think the hadfull of locos that were destroyed to make this fantastic movie would still be around today had they not been.They were destined for the scrap heap anyway, at least they are imortalised in this movie for many to enjoy for ever.

Now if someone wanted to derail say, The Flying Scotsman at speed in current times just to make a movie it would be an entirely differant story!

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Now if someone wanted to derail say, The Flying Scotsman at speed in current times just to make a movie it would be an entirely differant story!

I'd pay a dollar to se that!

Not really....I belong to the Pacific Lococmotive Association (we restore railroad locos and rolling stock to museum quality perfection) and use them on our 15 mile RR for the public to enjoy. Both steam and diesl locos are used. Not a big fan of diesel, but steam rocks!

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Destroy the Flying Scotsman for a film? Hell no!



Once Upon a Time in the West...there was a man called Sergio Leone

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Right. Heritage that anyone might've enjoyed is less important than the fleeting stimulation of audiences via a now obscure movie.

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The trains destroyed for this film were all Lionel scale models.

Bet that's a relief to know, isn't it!

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The trains destroyed for this film were all Lionel scale models.



Wrong, no model trains were used in this film, it's the real deal.

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I think he was kidding.

Headly Lamarr

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I too am a railfan and hate to see steam being destroyed, but consider that at least they were preserved on film whereas the vast majority were scrapped with no record other than a roster recording the fact.

Regarding the Flying Scotsman, I recall it being on tour and saw it at either Penn or Grand Central in NYC back in the 60's. Being a geeky kid I got the engineer's autograph and still have it somewhere. I don't recall his name at the moment but perhaps someone here knows who that may have been.

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